Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[Datisi]

raven, then you do understand that you and s_s are practically confirmed scum to each other, right? (the alternative being that i'm scum here, but like... no.)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like i've been saying pooky's scum on dayplay. you could twist MFD "confirming" one or the other.

pookyscum would never offer to get lynched - thats literally miles outside my scumrange

[Something_Smart]

Why is mfd kill confirm a protective role? And why were you not ready to end the day when we were almost at deadline?

I did answer the first

And for the second there were clearly enough people around to end the day when they wanted to

[Something_Smart]

Totally, it’s clearly super scummy to be thinking Pooky could actually be telling the truth here.

That post had nothing to do with my read on you.

[Raven Branwen]

This post seems like an oversight for a "mech" genius - there is something for the mark to bypass - the bomb for example.

This is true that the mark isn't completely worthless if there's a bomb, but it's not like the mark is needed to prevent the bomb from doing what it's supposed to do-- they can just shoot someone else. They're unlikely to random mark without any clue what the mark does, so the mark is pretty much only relevant in the very niche scenario where the bomb has claimed but they really want them dead anyway (and are willing to let the bomb be conftown for a whole day first).

Neither claim prevents anything the marking scum does is my point. I’m actually not sure if you’re scum or just being deliberately dense here.

[Something_Smart]

were you scumreading her earlier? if so, can you out bullet points why (or quote if you did so already)?

No, because I was trusting your read

[Datisi]

ah yeah offerered himself to get lynched

because "hey guys you should maybe lynch me today lol because i probably get mislynched in lylo" is such an impossible post to make for scum!pooky

pedit: holy shit that's a lot of posts.

[Something_Smart]

Neither claim prevents anything the marking scum does is my point.

You have it backwards. I'm not saying the BG exists to stop the mark. I'm saying the mark exists to stop the BG. The fact that the BG doesn't block the mark is what gives the mark relevance within the setup.

[Something_Smart]

pookyscum would never offer to get lynched - thats literally miles outside my scumrange

Is lying about what's outside your scumrange outside your scumrange?

[Raven Branwen]

Neither claim prevents anything the marking scum does is my point.

You have it backwards. I'm not saying the BG exists to stop the mark. I'm saying the mark exists to stop the BG. The fact that the BG doesn't block the mark is what gives the mark relevance within the setup.

You keep missing my point. MFD confirms ONE PR + Skitter but you specifically said, “protective” and no it doesn’t and if dsjstr had flipped scum, that actually would make a lot of sense but I know you’re wrong on me and I have real trouble seeing Dats’ scum here, so if it makes 0 sense for the scumteam to be tw/Pooky and I know I’m town, how can it not be you + one of them? Who’s left?

[Raven Branwen]

raven, then you do understand that you and s_s are practically confirmed scum to each other, right? (the alternative being that i'm scum here, but like... no.)

Yeah, I’ve just got to hope you believe me and I’m happy to do whatever it takes to prove I’m town here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

rofl i cant believe you guys are pushing raven/pooky when bugspray almost accidentally hammered me on d1 and kept me at L-1 and the entire datisi-pooky fight started with Pooky voting bugspray. what a joke.

[Something_Smart]

Nobody. If you townread Datisi, you have to scumread me.

[Something_Smart]

But my point is that the mark is a totally unnecessary thing to introduce to the game solely to counter a bomb. Bombs can already be countered by... not shooting them.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ah yeah offerered himself to get lynched

because "hey guys you should maybe lynch me today lol because i probably get mislynched in lylo" is such an impossible post to make for scum!pooky

pedit: holy shit that's a lot of posts.

you realize how hard of a throw that is if you guys actually listen to me and lynch me over town dsjtr if im scum?

[Raven Branwen]

Nobody. If you townread Datisi, you have to scumread me.

He was trying so obviously hard to solve the game today, so it just strengthened that read. I don’t see why scum!Dats pushes me like that here, if he isn’t genuinely interested in trying to solve the game.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and i didnt just make that post. i literally spent hours rereading dsjtr's games and compiling stats from them into a spreadsheet but yea you do you

[Something_Smart]

Doesn't dsjstr just get killed today and then we're in the same spot?

[Something_Smart]

@4039

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how r u in the same spot. im alive right now and dsj would be alive instead of me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and its not the same spot because i wouldve flipped bomb and ss/tw would be way more likely to get lynched

[Something_Smart]

Dsjstr would be executed and then it's Raven vs me, just like it is today.

Pedit: I'm talking about if you're scum

[Datisi]

you realize how hard of a throw that is if you guys actually listen to me and lynch me over town dsjtr if im scum?

yeah. but we didn't.

[Raven Branwen]

But my point is that the mark is a totally unnecessary thing to introduce to the game solely to counter a bomb. Bombs can already be countered by... not shooting them.

Well had you said that, it wouldn’t have pinged me but still based off of PoE, fmpov it has to be you + one of them because this game is broken if it’s tw/Pooky because of that mfd mechanic.

So my dilemma is one of you/Dats has to obviously be scum and I just have real trouble seeing how it’s Dats > you. As for tw/Pooky, I still don’t know. Rn, I like Pooky’s posting better than duckling’s.

I also was a bomb in a game and the way you play it is to try to get scum to kill you and I can see why a bomb role wouldn’t want to tell the truth in a mass claim. It’s a question of which one of them I believe but it’s a lot clearer with you/Dats, unlike Pooky/duckling.

[Something_Smart]

Why did I kill lilith over skitter who softed PR?