Open 789: Two-Fold 2d3 [Game Over]

[dramonic]

other TL:DR
If Chemist flips town somehow, I don't want WIFOM in my endgame.

[dramonic]

If it's still too confusing just assume I wanted to force a massclaim while also purging wifom

[TemporalLich]

VC 3.2

Chemist1422 (2) - chkflip, dramonic [E-3]

Not voting: Marashu, PenguinPower, Almost50, Chemist1422, teacher, Hiraki

With 8 alive it takes 5 to exile.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2020-09-09 10:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

[Hiraki]

i also just get very concerned why dunn wouldn't just cop chemist. dunn clearly had issues with melanque and i don't get why he doesn't just use his ability there. i don't buy A50's logic there.

it makes me think this is a mislynch but i know that's assuming a lot about the thought process of someone who didn't speak too much

[Hiraki]

*menalque

it's much easier to think of melan then menal

[Almost50]

@Hiraki: Seeding doubt without offering a proper alternative isn't going to swat anyone's opinion. You need to (a) Town!case chemist, and/or (b) Scum!case whomever you suspect to be scum over chemist.

Can you please do that ASAP? I really don't want to wait for 8 more days to end the game (I'd have nothing much to say for the rest of the day).

[dramonic]

I understand the perspective, but yeah dunn didnt really crumb any result so Im working with the assumption he copped a corpse.
Also the assumption that I'm right, cuz Menalque was absurdly scummy and makes sense as a partner for jake.

[Marashu]

Sorry, I'm still trying to process all this. If dram is retracting his doc claim and we are in column C, then that also means that the 2 people cleared by teach are not clear, correct? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything on that point.

[dramonic]

Honestly I'm willing to bank on almost and hiraki being town. Their play makes no sense if allied with jake. That + 2 confown + myself makes for a pretty clean path to victory.

Edit: correct

[Almost50]

Also the assumption that I'm right, cuz Menalque was absurdly scummy and makes sense as a partner for jake.

I also did a quick ISO of Triple vs Menalque and saw all the signs I needed to stay the course. Triple voting Menalque in RVS then quickly switching off him. Menalque calling early votes on her rude and seesawing her for almost all day.. etc.. etc.

But if Hiraki wants to argue otherwise I guess I can give him his space, provided he doesn't just stall the game and end up bringing nothing new to the table.

[Almost50]

I also TR Hiraki. I may have suspected him to be on the opposite alignment of Jake on D1, but we were lucky enough both WWs were eliminated by the end of D2. (Funnily enough, I suspected YOU (dram) might be Hiraki's scum buddy)

[teacher]

I’d like a real life day to do some analysis and post before I get shot, so kindly don’t run chemist up tonight. I’ll have posted by tomorrow am and don’t care after that.

[dramonic]

Fwiw marashu is just as conftown as you, so he might eat the bullet.
Also chemist is most likely the last scum, but you can have your day

[teacher]

I might be overestimating scum here, but there is (well was) little benefit to not CC me as scum, especially after Teacher listed his investigations.

Unless scum were in my clears and couldn’t counterclaim.

[teacher]

If you look at Dunn’s day long push of me and my positioning around Jake I think there is a decent chance he targeted me. RCE is a good bet too.

Dram, I dramatically disagree with your play today on a theory level, but I at least can see your twisted logic.

I got to be honest, I don’t care enough to do more work on this game.

Chemist> chkflip for me. If neither flips scum, I trust people at mylo to abstain and then take their best bet at lylo. I have my own thoughts, but there will be much more to go on.

VOTE: chenist

[chkflip]

They know I'm lying chk, they know they're a goon and therefore there is no PR besides the dead cop.
It's not a risky CC

And how is it we know that, exactly?

UNVOTE: Chemist1422

[PenguinPower]

Because of the setup and the flipped roles.

[teacher]

They know I'm lying chk, they know they're a goon and therefore there is no PR besides the dead cop.
It's not a risky CC

And how is it we know that, exactly?

UNVOTE: Chemist1422

Jake was goon. Other scum knows their own role. Scum knows the column of the setup from the start of D1. As soon as Dunn flips, they know there is no other town PR, but that fakexlaiming is an option (and doc is the best fakeclaim, because it can always purport to be roleblocked)

[dramonic]

If you look at Dunn’s day long push of me and my positioning around Jake I think there is a decent chance he targeted me. RCE is a good bet too.

Dram, I dramatically disagree with your play today on a theory level, but I at least can see your twisted logic.

I got to be honest, I don’t care enough to do more work on this game.

Chemist> chkflip for me. If neither flips scum, I trust people at mylo to abstain and then take their best bet at lylo. I have my own thoughts, but there will be much more to go on.

VOTE: chenist

I endorse the above post (besides disagreeing with me :p)
Also chk... It's an open setup, read the setup stuff plz

[dramonic]

I might be overestimating scum here, but there is (well was) little benefit to not CC me as scum, especially after Teacher listed his investigations.

Unless scum were in my clears and couldn’t counterclaim.

I mean yes but that's a crapshoot.
Heck I coulda been one of your investigations, thatd have made for an awkward day.
Well, more awkward

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Chemist

[chkflip]

Also chk... It's an open setup, read the setup stuff plz

Town Cop is in four seperate slots, dude.

So please understand how I'm absolutely fucking perplexed here.

[PenguinPower]

Also chk... It's an open setup, read the setup stuff plz

Town Cop is in four seperate slots, dude.

So please understand how I'm absolutely fucking perplexed here.

Perhaps look at the columns.

[dramonic]

We know that they're a goon post-massclaim because there's only one case with solo cop as the only PR.
They knew I was lying pre-massclaim because they know their role and there's a dead cop, there is no setup that fits my claim and those conditions.

[Hiraki]

im willing to make a mistake here but im gonna be so mad if i was right in the post game

Vote: Chemist