Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly

[Isis]

Spare Votecount 1.3

Hectic--------------------------

Elements-----------------------

Chara---------------------------

(2) Chara, catboi

Prism --------------------------

PookyTheMagicalBear -------

(2) PookyTheMagicalBear, Elements

catboi--------------------------

Morning Tweet----------------

Tayl0r Swift -------------------

Lavender ----------------------

redtea --------------------------

Tanner -------------------------

CantLynchAPuppy-------------

(2) Morning Tweet, CantLynchAPuppy

Not sparing:

- (6) Hectic, Prism, Tayl0r Swift, Lavender, redtea, Tanner

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"Launchy" isn't a player or unique abbreviation of one.

Fight Votecount 1.3

Hectic--------------------------

(4) Tayl0r Swift, CantLynchAPuppy, Chara, catboi

Elements-----------------------

Chara---------------------------

(2) redtea, Hectic

Prism --------------------------

(1) Lavender

PookyTheMagicalBear -------

catboi--------------------------

(2) Elements, Prism

Morning Tweet----------------

Tayl0r Swift -------------------

Lavender ----------------------

(1) Tanner

redtea --------------------------

Tanner -------------------------

CantLynchAPuppy-------------

Not Fighting:

- (2) PookyTheMagicalBear, Morning Tweet

CantLynchAPuppy saw Hectic gliding down towards the applemouthed Chara. Instead of a smooth even glide befitting his whale-like body, he was vibrating excitedly in a jittery awkward flight. Hectic's low resounding voice repeated "Goodie treat! Goodie treat! Goodie treat!" His wings wavered fast enough that CantLynchAPuppy could see what it was everyone had been talking about. He excitedly dashed forward, then leaped hard enough to land on the foe's back and stab him..
Except the armor laden dog only leapt and inch, not having nearly enough strength to move like he wanted in his costume.
CantLynchAPuppy whimpered and slowly got up, turning to Nahdia and hoping for some deus ex machina to replace his own inability.

With 12 alive and unspared, it takes 7 votes to make a decision.
The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-09-13 23:27:24)

[CantHateAPuppy]

damn. how can scum compete with this?

chara, what do you think of pooky? tanner? i played a game once with tanner where iw as technically scum, so i kind of think he sounds like that game, but i think my light tr is also half wanting him to be town so we can play town together as an apology. pooky just gives off good vibes. idk, it's kind of early still in day to have any good reads, but i'm bored with setup spec and i want to talk about something else

[Chara]

the most significant towntell from Pooky so far would be that he apparently did math for this.

i'll look at Tanner in a moment.
i scumread Elements. what do you think about them?

[Elements]

the most significant towntell from Pooky so far would be that he apparently did math for this.

i'll look at Tanner in a moment.
i scumread Elements. what do you think about them?

roode

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky just gives off good vibes

[CantHateAPuppy]

i scumread Elements. what do you think about them?

nothing but if you make a scumcase i'll sheep it. why do you scumread him? i def don't agree w/ the pro-spare argument, i'm trying to decide if arguing it is inherently scummy (this is on my mind wrt hectic too.) it's probably too extreme to just assume it has to be bad faith right?

[CantHateAPuppy]

alternatively, elements could do something really awesome and we could realign into the cute animal avatar townblock alliance supreme

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alternatively, elements could do something really awesome and we could realign into the cute animal avatar townblock alliance supreme

this would be beyond awesome if it worked

[Chara]

Tanner's above null for now. i don't want to put a lot of weight in where he falls on the spare/fight debate. i have concrete thoughts on this but i want Tanner back in the thread first, so you can ask me again after that happens.

catboi also gets that sweet and soft earlygame TR for the Puppy vote (that i disagree with) and for the setup math (that is really very NAI).
so what i mean is catboi gets the earlygame TR for no real reason besides i say so.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we should maybe have a vote whether to go the spare or fight route for winning the game.

[Chara]

one of them should be pooky
one of them should be me
one of them should be hectic

this is a game
it's meant to be fun
sparing is the more fun path
we should spare

first quoted post is what pinged. i mentioned i thought it was likely a joke but the lackadaisical attitude is what's rubbing me the wrong way. there's a desire to spare but no

determination

to find that town to spare, yet.

[CantHateAPuppy]

ok, that's actually a really good point

HURT: elements

[catboi]

townhunting is powerful, better than scumhunting imo, but we can townhunt inside the fight framework too. even if it's not as fun as doing somtehing different by sparing ( )

I shouldn't townread someone just for a strategy post but this makes me want to

[Morning Tweet]

Mech talk is totally losing me. I could give out townreads to people doing the math (for the effort or something) but like, SO many people did and I don't think it's something outside of what scum would do. It's objective stuff i assume, there's a right and wrong, it's NAI

I like Chara though. This is a really good point

but if we spare today? sure, mafia wants Chara to be spared, but if they feel it won't happen they aren't backed into a corner like that.

Picture this:

Several people are like "Ahh we should spare and stuff cause scumChara's flip will help us know who their buddies are cause their buddies want them to be spared"

*2 spares later and scumChara dies*

And then those same people point the blame at everyone who wanted scumChara spared, when in reality the actual scum just ignored scumChara afterall because of course they knew that'd happen. Scum uses this misinformation to win the game

So at least Chara is conscious of that and points it out rather than trying to (potentially) abuse it

i also somewhat like that it is getting scumpings from Elements so early and has a serious vote on him

[Elements]

alternatively, elements could do something really awesome and we could realign into the cute animal avatar townblock alliance supreme

The best thing I have ever made.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alternatively, elements could do something really awesome and we could realign into the cute animal avatar townblock alliance supreme

The best thing I have ever made.

neato

[redtea]

Oh my god. MorningTweet just stole my post intro. I should just post what I have if I can't drudge up anything else:

I am so sorry for being utterly useless. Statistics make my brain melt.
I would say I have reads but what ones I made out were counterbalanced from what I could understand of setup talk.
All I got is: The quick estimate Pooky gave I do no give out town points for (regardless ty for your contribution) and the ones who went the extra mile (catboi, Prism). Maf wouldn't fuckin bother, or think to, anyway. Esp. with how "focusing on game mechanics" is looked at.

[redtea]

i gave it a like elements <3 v cool

[Elements]

i gave it a like elements <3 v cool

<3

[CantHateAPuppy]

alternatively, elements could do something really awesome and we could realign into the cute animal avatar townblock alliance supreme

The best thing I have ever made.

this is pretty cool ngl. but is it town cool? are you a cool enough dude for this townbloc?

[catboi]

All I got is: The quick estimate Pooky gave I do no give out town points for (regardless ty for your contribution) and the ones who went the extra mile (catboi, Prism). Maf wouldn't fuckin bother, or think to, anyway. Esp. with how "focusing on game mechanics" is looked at.

（ΦωΦ）For the record, I ran those numbers pregame and you should absolutely not townread effort in that vein, but the difference in EV is so significant that I wouldn't have bothered outing it as mafia because I'd be torpedoing my own team's chances

[redtea]

well there ya go

[Tayl0r Swift]

im also in the boat of i dont really care about the mech talk or evs. i think theyre silly and good play and the human element matters more than whats going on on paper. depending on the lobby different strats will work better or worse. none of these strats appear to break the game.

anyway, HEAL: Morning
that avatar has me pocketed.

[catboi]

7 pages in and that's your reasoning for a vote?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it is a pretty cute avatar