Newbie 2027 | Doggos | Town Win

[PlusJOYED]

Take a deep breath, then scream for help in your PT.

First you sheep almost all of my case towards 72offsuit. Town, look at 193 then 207. It's obvious PlusJoy is hard sheeping me here, not making any effort to solve.
207 says "yeah idk"

AGREEING

with me. then PlusJoy says a bunch of IIoA. I don't want to hear you spitting mafia theory at me. 208 basically sheeps the part where I SR them.

Then 225

continues to sheep my 72offsuit SR.

Instead of exploring other worlds or solves.
"logic doesn't make sense" - plusjoy in 225
"flawed logic" - me in 193

240 says that they have been "mostly independent" wtf PlusJoy after reading your ISO thrice I just

don't see

where you express original thoughts.

241 states I am town because of

gut feeling

. I feel this is a very unwarranted TR and most likely a pocket. then 243 encourages lurkers to talk which is a form of LAMIST - thats very easy towncred.

Then 254 continuedly puts 72offsuit as scum (as I said), still putting me as town, putting echo as town, and lurkers at scumlean

This game is not a game of "

get the lurkers to talk

". it's a game of finding the mafia and kicking them. Lurkers will get replaced. I don't get the heavy SR lean on the lurkers. This is probably finding filler SRs.

One thing I'd like to point out is 207 first puts 72offsuit as scum, but the vote only comes in 254. Why didn't you put a vote down earlier?

Votes aren't matching up with actions

; another scumtell

256 doesn't show town motives at all. Hey, our job is to

find scum, not obvtown

. Scum could try and look town as well; it doesn't help.

271

blatantly pockets

echo again. The quite unwarranted TR of echo rings a bell to my pocketing in the scumgame i just played

Then you put 72offsuit at L-1 without announcing it.

What?!

then you claim it as a "mistake". So basically your thought process is "wait till votes pile on them and lightly SR them until the chance to put at L-1 comes"

300 starts AtEing and

deflecting towards me

. I never sheeped anyone. I know I wasn't the first to vote you; doesn't mean I sheep. Very flawed logic.

332 SRs the lurking people AGAIN. LURKERS GET REPLACED. yes talking is beneficial but replacements exist

340 attempts to pocket Noraa. Now I'd like to point this out: basically plusjoy has TR everyone except the lurkers and 72offsuit, which

doesn't help

. if we flip the lurkers and they are red we don't get associative tells.

363 is AtEing towards Noraa. it's obvious Noraa is firmly in your pocket

386

pivots on the 72offsuit SR.

have no idea why you arbitrarily decide to pivot. So your only SRs are the lurkers at this point? Yeah sirius isn't being helpful but policy elims often benefit scum. imo scum!sirius doesn't play jester like

390 suggests TvT with me and you which doesn't make sense frankly. it's almost surely

TvS

and you're the scum.

393 backtracks on the lurker scumreads. SO YOU HAVE

NO SCUMREADS

NOW WTF PLUSJOY? then scum!plusjoy probs realises this and arbitrarily adds a 72 SR but you listed them as "could be town" in 386

401 susses frogster as the 72 partner, BUT 409 says slight TR frogster

8 posts later

. that's a very, very illogical leap.

414 what?? AtEing me now woah you can cut down the AtEs next time as scum

415 is very

image conscious

- you either put me there if you think im scum or don't put me there if you think im town. "probably die" why be afraid of nightkills? and if you're town there's no reason to fear a mislim either

437 meta-SRs me despite stating that they don't like using meta earlier. probably trying to secure a mislim with me at L-2 here

So basically PlusJoy's ISO looks very, very scummy here. My vote stays on them and I urge y'all townies to look in the mirror and realise how scummy this man is.

I don't care about your "sheeping" case on me because I ain't sheeping. My townieness will shine through penultimately and you can flip red.

No SR? No, my SR have remained pretty constant. I SR sirius, lurkers, and 72o still. I've been trying to solve here, I feel like you're taking ahat I say and twisting it around. You were the third person to vote me. That case is fabricated to get an elim on a townie as scum

[PlusJOYED]

That wall is largely just my playstyle here. You're doing exactly the same thing you did in hedgehogs: you notice another player going against me (in this case echo and sirius) and saw that I looked scummy enough so you made a fake case of me being scummy so you get the elim.

[shellyc]

ooh so OMGUS-ing me here interesting, very interesting

I will defend emphatically to your fake case

[shellyc]

- I express a scum lean on PlusJoy in #219
- #245 echo says "not a fan of plus joy"

Tell me 245 is smaller than 219 please

[shellyc]

#215 I point out that you are sheeping
#251 echo says you are "copying people's reads"

Do some maths. I'm not sheeping anyone, I'm making this push on you first

[shellyc]

Your solve is literally 72offsuit (who I obviously SR first - read the DIE MAFIA SCUM! post) and the lurkers. scum making a case on lurker for policy eliminate is an easy way to get a misaim

[shellyc]

*I meant mislim

[PlusJOYED]

VCA doesn't lie. You voted me after sirius and echo. You expressed a gut read, sure, to test the waters and get me killed now that people have voted on me.

[PlusJOYED]

I never wanted to elim the lurkers, I wanted them to talk.

[shellyc]

VCA doesn't lie. You voted me after sirius and echo. You expressed a gut read, sure, to test the waters and get me killed now that people have voted on me.

VCA does lie.

Imagine a world with scum!me and town!you. I have the perfect chance to accuse you of sheeping me, but I don't put down a vote. Scum's wincon is to make up the majority of the town. Why in the world would I not put a vote asap and give my partner the chance to quickhammer you? (since Sirius and echo were voting)

You said "I SR lurkers" in 450.

[PlusJOYED]

You also sheeped me in 111. I'll admit that your post had helped me reread and pick up on 72o scumtells.

[PlusJOYED]

Twisting my words yet again. I said in #371 I SR lurkers to get them to talk and because they are a liability during lylo

[PlusJOYED]

VCA doesn't lie. You voted me after sirius and echo. You expressed a gut read, sure, to test the waters and get me killed now that people have voted on me.

VCA does lie.

Imagine a world with scum!me and town!you. I have the perfect chance to accuse you of sheeping me, but I don't put down a vote. Scum's wincon is to make up the majority of the town. Why in the world would I not put a vote asap and give my partner the chance to quickhammer you? (since Sirius and echo were voting)

You said "I SR lurkers" in 450.

Scum don't want to quick hammer because it's scummy af.

[Frogsterking]

Yeah I was about to get annoyed 72o because you came off all strong in the start then disappeared but it makes sense to me that school started for you this week, I live in a college town so I've experienced that vicariously through them.

I also have good and bad news for you guys, and the same news is both, I'm town reading 72o, PLUS, and shelly in addition to Noraa and Echo from before. Here's how I picture this game, in no particular order:

Town Experienced: shelly, 720, PLUS, Echo

Town Inexperienced: Noraa, Sirius

Null:

Nikahang

,

Sceptorus

Null Inexperienced:

Sirius

I'm mostly interested in voting the player's names who are above me because as mafia it's easiest for them to hide in these roles and overall the three above have done the least for town.

[Frogsterking]

Yeah I was about to get annoyed 72o because you came off all strong in the start then disappeared but it makes sense to me that school started for you this week, I live in a college town so I've experienced that vicariously through them.

I also have good and bad news for you guys, and the same news is both, I'm town reading 72o, PLUS, and shelly in addition to Noraa and Echo from before. Here's how I picture this game, in no particular order:

Town Experienced: shelly, 720, PLUS, Echo

Town Inexperienced: Noraa

Null:

Nikahang

,

Sceptorus

,

Sirius

I'm mostly interested in voting the player's names who are above me because as mafia it's easiest for them to hide in these roles and overall the three above have done the least for town.

Here we go, I cleaned it up a little bit. VOTE: Nikahang

[Noraa]

Yeah I was about to get annoyed 72o because you came off all strong in the start then disappeared but it makes sense to me that school started for you this week, I live in a college town so I've experienced that vicariously through them.

I also have good and bad news for you guys, and the same news is both, I'm town reading 72o, PLUS, and shelly in addition to Noraa and Echo from before. Here's how I picture this game, in no particular order:

Town Experienced: shelly, 720, PLUS, Echo

Town Inexperienced: Noraa, Sirius

Null:

Nikahang

,

Sceptorus

Null Inexperienced:

Sirius

I'm mostly interested in voting the player's names who are above me because as mafia it's easiest for them to hide in these roles and overall the three above have done the least for town.

no srs? too many trs imo almost everyone in ur townbook has done something sus and that's why I dont agree with ur read. also what is sirius : null or town?

[Noraa]

My read goes like this:

TR: Echo, Frog
Not sure: Plus, shelly, 72, Sceptorus
SR: Nikahang, Sirius

Nikahangs still a lurker imo. Sirius doesn't reply much but pops in when prodded and jumps on some random wagon or sheeps someone.

Plus, a lot of people seem to sr. I personally dont really sr him, so he goes on the not sure list. Shelly seems to be overly paranoid about everyone and calls a lot of things I dont consider sus scumtells but doesn't seem to be scum imo. 72 idk seriously can't tell. Sceptorous asked people for reads which is why I tr'ed him but then he basically disappeared so he goes here too.

Echo says a lot of really bold things that make me tr him. Frog is giving a lot of advice which doesn't strike me as a scum thing to do bc they would be afraid of being accused of "not producing content"

[Frogsterking]

Here I cleaned it up:
----
Town Experienced: shelly, 720, PLUS, Echo

Town Inexperienced: Noraa

Null:

Nikahang, Sceptorus, Sirius

----
I'm mostly interested in voting the player's names who in the null category because they've done the least for town and are easiest for the mafia to hide in. Nikahang and Sirius are also arguably being anti town.

[Frogsterking]

Yeah I was about to get annoyed 72o because you came off all strong in the start then disappeared but it makes sense to me that school started for you this week, I live in a college town so I've experienced that vicariously through them.

I also have good and bad news for you guys, and the same news is both, I'm town reading 72o, PLUS, and shelly in addition to Noraa and Echo from before. Here's how I picture this game, in no particular order:

Town Experienced: shelly, 720, PLUS, Echo

Town Inexperienced: Noraa, Sirius

Null:

Nikahang

,

Sceptorus

Null Inexperienced:

Sirius

I'm mostly interested in voting the player's names who are above me because as mafia it's easiest for them to hide in these roles and overall the three above have done the least for town.

no srs? too many trs imo almost everyone in ur townbook has done something sus and that's why I dont agree with ur read. also what is sirius : null or town?

Check the chart after I cleaned it up a little bit. I'm not really seeing any players being scummy, I'm seeing a lot of scum hunting actually. Did you read the article on active lurking?

[Noraa]

Yeah I was about to get annoyed 72o because you came off all strong in the start then disappeared but it makes sense to me that school started for you this week, I live in a college town so I've experienced that vicariously through them.

I also have good and bad news for you guys, and the same news is both, I'm town reading 72o, PLUS, and shelly in addition to Noraa and Echo from before. Here's how I picture this game, in no particular order:

Town Experienced: shelly, 720, PLUS, Echo

Town Inexperienced: Noraa, Sirius

Null:

Nikahang

,

Sceptorus

Null Inexperienced:

Sirius

I'm mostly interested in voting the player's names who are above me because as mafia it's easiest for them to hide in these roles and overall the three above have done the least for town.

no srs? too many trs imo almost everyone in ur townbook has done something sus and that's why I dont agree with ur read. also what is sirius : null or town?

Check the chart after I cleaned it up a little bit. I'm not really seeing any players being scummy, I'm seeing a lot of scum hunting actually. Did you read the article on active lurking?

The fluffpost thing? but tbh sure no ones really posted anything completely not related but like I dont think anyone would do that in general cuz like u will be called out super fast. And in fact if anyone does it, I would be inclined to tr them for having guts

[PlusJOYED]

Here I cleaned it up:
----
Town Experienced: shelly, 720, PLUS, Echo

Town Inexperienced: Noraa

Null:

Nikahang, Sceptorus, Sirius

----
I'm mostly interested in voting the player's names who in the null category because they've done the least for town and are easiest for the mafia to hide in. Nikahang and Sirius are also arguably being anti town.

I mentioned this before, but sirius is a Se slot, which makes it all the more odd to me.

[PlusJOYED]

It's puzzling to me how your handing out town passes like that though

[Noraa]

HOLD TF UP
sirius is an se?!

[PlusJOYED]

nvm im a fool lol
I know he has played multiple games though

[Noraa]

nvm im a fool lol
I know he has played multiple games though

ahaha lmao
btw I was curious so I went and took a look at one game he was in and poor guy got replaced in as a slot that got eliminated day one