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[WaltertheDunce10]

Geraint is a waste of an elimination, elim Walter please and thank you

uhhuh

[WaltertheDunce10]

This is kinda awkward though with the two and a half hours.

[Tayl0r Swift]

so now that you think that isnt the case youll put your vote back?

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah i mean the replacement will need time to read

[Frogsterking]

I'm still feeling strong about the shelly wagon. I'm tempted to do an ISO on Walter, depending on how long this deadline is going to be in place. Still a town lean for me.

[Nosferatu]

I will hammer whichever wagon hits E-1 first as soon as it hits E-1 no questions asked. Claims out if ya got em.

this post never comes from town

ur so cracked

[Nosferatu]

honestly ill switch to shellyc

VOTE: shellyc

i town read this slot but i really don't like who's on the walter wagon with me

[Not_Mafia]

Geraint you can revote now

[RCEnigma]

honestly ill switch to shellyc

VOTE: shellyc

i town read this slot but i really don't like who's on the walter wagon with me

+1
VOTE: Shelly

[geraintm]

VOTE: Shelly

[Datisi]

Votecount 1.FINAL

shellyc(7)

~ Tayl0r Swift(48), Frogsterking(47), ItalianoVD(69), WaltertheDunce10(75), Nosferatu(85), RCEnigma(67), geraintm(74)

-- HAMMER

WaltertheDunce10(3)

~ Raya36(60), Not_Mafia(29), callforjudgement(70)

geraintm(2)

~ Gamma Emerald(82), Looker(56)

ItalianoVD(1)

~ shellyc(70)


Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-09-06 11:18:30)

[Datisi]

shellyc has been eliminated Day 1. She was a

Spoiler:

Mafia Goon

[/spoiler]

It is now Night 1. Deadline for Night actions is in (expired on 2020-09-08 17:32:19).

Please PM all night action to both me [Datisi] and GeorgeBailey.

[Datisi]

Not_Mafia has been killed last night! He was a:

Spoiler:

vanilla townie

Welcome,

Not_Mafia

. You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities:

• You have no special abilities, but you have your voice and your vote.

You win when all the threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

[Datisi]

Votecount 2.1

Not Voting (11): ItalianoVD(0), callforjudgement(0), Gamma Emerald(0), Looker(0), geraintm(0), Raya36(0), Frogsterking(0), Nosferatu(0), RCEnigma(0), Tayl0rSwift(0), WaltertheDunce10(0)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-09-22 17:44:55)

FLAVOR

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: CFJ

He tried to pull the BW off shelly yesterday.

[Frogsterking]

Less than four hours to go. Where is everyone?

@Looker: I don't think there's time to build a geraintm wagon at this point, with only two votes on it; you posted recently, please move if you're online. I would prefer you to move onto Walter; however, if you think that Walter is town and/or shelly is scum, and place the fifth vote on the shelly wagon as a consequence, then I'll provide the sixth vote on the shelly wagon in 1½-2 hours from now in order to avoid hitting deadline.

shelly is posting elsewhere (e.g. in url=[https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12108322]this completed game[/url], about 40 minutes ago). Hopefully she turns up here soon.

That's… a really awkward time to pause deadline at, because it means I (and everyone else) have to check the thread every 2 hours or so for the rest of the Day in order to move to a consensus wagon to avoid deadline, and that could happen at any random time of day. I can't reasonably be online constantly.

I'm wondering whether showing lack of interest in this game in particular (shelly has apparently forgotten about it while signing up for new games elsewhere) is a towntell for shelly (even though it would be a scumtell for many players). Her first game here was as scum (flying solo from N1 onwards) and she apparently really enjoyed it. (She also has a list of completed and current games in her signature, and this one isn't listed.)

[Frogsterking]

I will hammer whichever wagon hits E-1 first as soon as it hits E-1 no questions asked. Claims out if ya got em.

this post never comes from town

ur so cracked

honestly ill switch to shellyc

VOTE: shellyc

i town read this slot but i really don't like who's on the walter wagon with me

I'm tempted to town read Nosferatu for the end of day switch here.

[Gamma Emerald]

I can’t say I expected that execute flip, or that kill
Maybe I need to reset?

[Frogsterking]

I can’t say I expected that execute flip, or that kill
Maybe I need to reset?

I'm scum reading this comment.

[callforjudgement]

VOTE: CFJ

He tried to pull the BW off shelly yesterday.

I did. I'd pretty much talked myself into seeing shelly as town, and was very surprised by the flip (and still am). I didn't (and still dont) have a townread on Walter (although I don't have a strong scumread either), so the choice from my point of view was obvious.

Normally it's very hard to get a scum wagon over the finish line. That's especially the case when day's ending and it's a compromise wagon and many of the players on it don't feel particularly strongly about it; that should be (and usually is) a trivial situation for scum to manipulate. So why didn't they?

It would help to know whether shelly a) had forgotten about this game entirely, or b) was intentionally avoiding it, but I don't see if there's any way to find out. She was busy signing up for new games even as we were scrambling to find a deadline wagon; you'd expect her to at least drop a post in thread and/or to vote for Walter, maybe getting that wagon through first. If she

was

intentionally avoiding the game, the only explanation I can see is that she was scum with Walter and scum agreed upon her as a sacrifice to make Walter look good (that would explain why she was interested in signing up for a new game).

Enough has happened that I don't understand that I don't feel comfortable in voting yet, though.

[Raya36]

I'm more interested in cfj's theory than I am worried about how he was town reading shelly although I am suspicious of both.

VOTE: Walter

[Raya36]

I feel like there's a pretty good chance scum is between cfj or Walter though

[WaltertheDunce10]

I will hammer whichever wagon hits E-1 first as soon as it hits E-1 no questions asked. Claims out if ya got em.

this post never comes from town

ur so cracked

honestly ill switch to shellyc

VOTE: shellyc

i town read this slot but i really don't like who's on the walter wagon with me

I'm tempted to town read Nosferatu for the end of day switch here.

I agreee sorta also. Iam trying to figure out why scum team would not stall out the game state again. Which makes me think nos is town for that. Although I'm not sure RCE using the same reasons is a good one.

[ItalianoVD]

I can’t say I expected that execute flip, or that kill
Maybe I need to reset?

Or we can just vote you off.

[ItalianoVD]

VOTE: CFJ

He tried to pull the BW off shelly yesterday.

Among other things.