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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:38 pm

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Vote Count M-18


Assassin (6): Moon Cancer, Alter Ego, Lancer, Assassin, Archer, Rider
Avenger (4): Avenger, Berserker, Beast, Saber
Caster (3): Caster, Ruler, Foreigner
Saber (1): Shielder

Phase Page Count: 45/60

With 14 servants alive, it takes 8 votes to lock in a master. Otherwise, a master will be selected by plurality rules in: (expired on 2020-09-08 21:23:37)
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:38 pm

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I am curious as to who Rider's three "must-die" reads are.

I know that Rider was trying to bait this response when revealing that, but I'm a sucker for taking bait like that.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:38 pm

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Can someone explain to me why Moon Cancer is a town read?
I don't really feel it.
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:38 pm

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In post 1088, Servant Berserker wrote:
In post 1083, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Assassin (6):
Moon Cancer
, Alter Ego,
Lancer
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Rider
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Assassin
, Archer
Avenger (4):
Avenger
,
Berserker
, Beast, Saber

Darker blue = stronger townreads.
Fucks sakes we might genuinely be on the same page minus Assassin.

All those dark blue names are town for me.

But you're NOT town for me.

... so i'm either totally directed in a bad way, or you're town?

or option 3 you're distancing but day 1 no connections let's not go down that path...
I'm going to keep calling it a playstyle clash as long as I townread you.
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:39 pm

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In post 1098, Servant Foreigner wrote:
In post 1096, Servant Assassin wrote:
In post 1095, Servant Foreigner wrote:Caster doesn't strike me as someone who wants to win this vote, maybe they are scum trying to setup some easy pockets and if they happen to win the vote that's just a bonus.
i mean, they are selfvoting
Am I allowed to reword that?
I don't think it's about winning or losing this vote, I think it's about having a plan for the future after you win the vote.

And I think to some degree Caster both doesn't have one of those and also isn't showing they aren't thinking about the future.
So yes I think they are trying to win the vote, but they aren't playing like winning the vote is an end goal for their slot. Basically they are taking the vote because they can.

Idk I could be wrong, I am kind of deep on this tunnel to be reevaluating reliably with 2 hours left, whenever I do that I just end up moving off a good vote and onto a shit one.
And I am voting Assassin in a few posts anyway.
ooooh i see

then i totally concur with that assessment of caster

hell it might even be suspect? not going to think about it for this day phase though
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:41 pm

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I'll be real my plan for the future is 1. eliminate shielder 2. ??? 3. profit
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:41 pm

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In post 1104, Servant Assassin wrote:ooooh i see

then i totally concur with that assessment of caster

hell it might even be suspect? not going to think about it for this day phase though
Maybe, we'll cross that bridge later.

VOTE: Assassin

pedit: Don't steal my plan.
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:42 pm

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That's part of why I said no to the imps clamoring at me to go for the buff. I don't have a plan. I generally don't have plans. Just reads.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:44 pm

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wait i'm supposed to have PLANS?!?
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:46 pm

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In post 1101, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:I am curious as to who Rider's three "must-die" reads are.

I know that Rider was trying to bait this response when revealing that, but I'm a sucker for taking bait like that.
Shielder, Archer, Lancer. I'll explain why in the future. Maybe.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:47 pm

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Tbh I was having trouble reading Rider.
But those are all my pocket scum reads.

So I am probably just bad at mafia.
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:48 pm

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In post 1108, Servant Assassin wrote:wait i'm supposed to have PLANS?!?
I told you Assassin was the hero we deserve, Alter

Foreigner, self pity is gonna get you a truckload of fuckall. I know from experience. Make some decisions, push forward and fly like the beautiful bird we all know you are
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:51 pm

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Why am I scummy?
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:52 pm

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ooh, i might get hammered

this is so tingly
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:52 pm

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I feel pretty strongly about the following reads.

Caster/Beast/AE/Assassin/Avenger For Town.
Shielder/Archer For Scum

Everything else is going to come across as bullshit until I find something I like, and as games tend to progress I get stingy about what those things are.
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:53 pm

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See? You'll be fine.
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:53 pm

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In post 1112, Servant Archer wrote:Why am I scummy?
Your posts lack nuance, it's all very direct observations in a way that I think is more likely to come from scum.
And you've stayed consistent with that for a very long time.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:54 pm

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beast is a lil bit spicy
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:57 pm

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In post 1116, Servant Foreigner wrote:Your posts lack nuance, it's all very direct observations in a way that I think is more likely to come from scum.
And you've stayed consistent with that for a very long time.
Ok... Why did you say that it is more likely to come from scum?
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:57 pm

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Assume Shielder and Archer are scum - what do you think of the fact that there's zero resistance to them essentially being the first two people gone from this game?

(Just a general question to anyone who cares to think about it. I have already formed my own opinions about what this says for how scum is approaching the game at the moment.)
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:01 pm

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In post 1119, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Assume Shielder and Archer are scum - what do you think of the fact that there's zero resistance to them essentially being the first two people gone from this game?

(Just a general question to anyone who cares to think about it. I have already formed my own opinions about what this says for how scum is approaching the game at the moment.)
I don't think this is an argument that actually holds up.
People say it, get paranoid, then move off.

When 99% of the time scum get put in a position like this they end up opening the scum PT and posting "Reads this early don't actually matter, you're fine." then forgetting about it.
Scum just don't go deep defending other buddies especially when they don't have a large presence, especially in Shielders case. I can see why you would believe someone would be able to defend archer.

I think I am the only one in this entire game that thinks Beast is town so it's not like we are just beating down on certain slots right now.
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:03 pm

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In post 1118, Servant Archer wrote:
In post 1116, Servant Foreigner wrote:Your posts lack nuance, it's all very direct observations in a way that I think is more likely to come from scum.
And you've stayed consistent with that for a very long time.
Ok... Why did you say that it is more likely to come from scum?
I was really expecting you to say you're reads do have nuance to them....

It's just the nature of how an uninformed individual will play a puzzle game and look stupid coming up with theories. While a scum player will just need to make stances to push certain things through that favor them.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:04 pm

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I don't think you're understanding what I was asking if you think I was suggesting scum would defend them.

Also I think anyone who thinks Shielder/Archer are "fine" is probably not following the flow of the game.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:04 pm

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i actually have in my notes that beast has said some villagery things which is why she is not my favored lowposter exile. having her as a townread is still spicy.
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:05 pm

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A scum player doesn't need nuance to do what they need to do, so sometimes it gets lost in translation when faking posts. I don't need nuance to make certain statements, I am sorry to bring up old wounds since we've been chill but my best example is me getting flustered about how my opinions on Berserker impacted my read on them. While a scum player trying to fake of that wouldn't think of the varying nuance that would go into having that kind of a thought process.

I kinda find those kind of nuances in the posts of the people I town read, even Beast.
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