Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[PlusJOYED]

Out of town tomorrow and probs busy tonight, VL/A until Sunday

Got it! Also please bold it next time so I don't miss it! -D

[PlusJOYED]

I'll clarify things ... eventually

[PlusJOYED]

also I'm gonna hop off this wagon and onto this one
UNVOTE:
VOTE: taylor

[shellyc]

Saud is in my (limited) experience, a lurker player who is tunneling people known to be lurky/late game in.

Well, I had no idea about saudade's meta

[Menalque]

Ironically the fact that he now seems to be trying to take the game more seriously and isn’t just memeing makes me more worried than if he’d just kept shitposting

doesn't more posting help you sort their alignment? Why are you concerned about saudade not shitposting? Seems counter-intuitive

To be clear, I was talking about kerset here

[Menalque]

Also I feel like taylor being a lurker and acting quite scummy, you would bus them for towncred since them going down (as they are a rather weak member of the scumteam in this gamestate) gives you a fair bit of credibility

I mean I prob would bus yes (I demonstrably have done on D1) but generally not if I think I can save someone, and I probably wouldn’t be the one to draw attention to the scuminess of my buddy, I’d fake a trajectory onto them if/when I figured saving them would hurt too much in the long run

[Menalque]

Menal is giving me weird vibes atm, not sure if alignment indicative or just how they are. For those who have played with menal before, what do you think about them?

I feel pretty good about him being town, but always have a lack of confidence in my read of him (though Im more often right, I just respect his scum game).

Why do you think I’m town or like why do you feel pretty good at this point? I’m not surprised you’re TRing me exactly but like I would have expected you to be somewhat less confident (unless the bracketed corollary is that)

It’s the town for day one, re-evaluate entirely after flips position I generally come to wrt you. The bracketed, and the but, were trying to express it.

Yeah, okay, this makes sense. I wasn’t sure if that’s what you were trying to say through the brackets etc but I think this makes sense for you

[Menalque]

V/LA until Monday pls, turns out the town I’m going to for climbing may not have mobile coverage? So I may not be able to post at all

Got it! -D

that sounds like fun

Thanks, hopefully it will be! I’m about to leave in a moment

[shellyc]

have fun mena!

[Andresvmb]

Actually wait, another thing @andres, why do you like osuka so far? I feel like he has p good scum equity at this point in the game as someone not like trying that hard to solve but definitely trying to give of the impression of solving, and I kind of think hard pushing one person in particular is often indicative of that sort of fake scumhunting

If osuka had highlighted something silly about Kerset, then maybe I would agree with this. But osuka’s points seemed perfectly legitimate to me. It did almost seem like Kerset was avoiding commenting on what was going on, and kept deflecting in the face of pressure. And osuka had some of the same reactions I had about shellyc’s posts but expressed them in a way that is more sarcastic and unfriendly that I would have done. However, I fully expect to see some decent takes from osuka, and until I find myself disagreeing or feeling like I’m being led in the wrong direction, I’m not going to SR it.

Osuka’s point(s) on kerset seem to be limited to “policy lynch” bc of his shitposting, so are you just agreeing with policying there or am I missing something in ISO? It feels like you’re talking about saudade here not osuka, or like conflating the two of them.

I also don’t see how osuka was having the same reaction as you to shelly when you’re hard townreading her and he opened by voting her in reaction to the same posts you’re TRing? Idgi

Actually Menalque I checked and you’re right about this - for some reason I thought Osuka was being harsh on Kerset but indeed, it was just Saudade who was (for some reason I remembered it as a bit of a tag team effort, though mostly carried out by Saudade). You will notice from my interaction with Kerset that I have other reasons for voting the slot obviously, but those came much later.

And I think my argument about shellyc being Town was very much related to what I was perceiving in terms of approach and tone (from playing with her in a different game). If you’re unfamiliar with shellyc, I can absolutely see how you can arrive at the conclusion that she is Scum (which is why I was saying that osuka’s responses seemed harsher than what I would have done, but still in the ballpark of what I was thinking). If I disagree with the conclusion but see a reasonable thought process, then I was fine TR’ing osuka. It’s not particularly strong - osuka is almost intentionally making themselves hard to read, but I don’t feel an urgent need to pressure them if that makes sense.

[Andresvmb]

Okay, I actually think I want this more than Taylor atp

VOTE: plusjoy

I think the attempt to go “one scum seems likely in the miller/ascetic” is more of a scum thought process than a town one, which I think is just wondering what the setup philosophy was. Whereas scum are already clued in on the setup from whatever power they have and would likely try to take advantage of roles that might become Named Townies lategame by trying to shade them/flip them early

I’ll admit that this absolutely triggered alarm bells in my head, which is why I had that snarky remark immediately after saying that I thought it was highly unlikely that plusJOYED was Town. I am having conflicting thoughts about the slot based on how plus played in the newbie game, but I suspect it’ll become clearer over time.

[Andresvmb]

Also, @Bob I’m still waiting on your take on plusJOYED.

[PlusJOYED]

I also want to hear the townie gods opinion

[Kerset]

Ironically the fact that he now seems to be trying to take the game more seriously and isn’t just memeing makes me more worried than if he’d just kept shitposting

i will never achieve my ultimate goal of entertaining everyone

[Kerset]

also I'm gonna hop off this wagon and onto this one
UNVOTE:
VOTE: taylor

why not me? you would get towncred

[Kerset]

out of {NDMath, Menalque} NDMath’s is RVS right?

I’d say mena and/or teacher are feasibly bussing here

I played with mena as partner and he told me bussing is out of his meta. It was done inside scum PT of pretty relevant game, so he had to be honest.

[Kerset]

In post 699, innocentvillager wrote:
{plus, ydrasse, menal}
{shelly, andres}
{Taylor}
{ndmath, bob, kerset, Saudade, osuka}
{teacher}

This readlist looks like what I expected it to, which I think is slightly town indicative.

Why did you pick this particular readlist to judge? Do you know him very well or something?

[PlusJOYED]

I'm leaning slightly town on kerset

[bob3141]

bob is easier to explain: he had a start to the game i liked but then just... dropped out it seems like, presence-wise which baffles me. also i like that post i quoted from ndmath which disarmed my reason to like his opening as much as i did. maybe i just miss him and want him to come back and tell me he's town so i can trust him......

iv in general just... is towny to me? i don't see the scumslips that other people are saying they seeing and instead see an effort to talk to people and solve. the interaction that we had early game set me on the path to tring him and from there i haven't doubted it from his posting.

All about availability. Weds - friday i never have much time due to long work hours.

Saturday i have long work hours but its my last day so dont need to get up early

[bob3141]

Also, @Bob I’m still waiting on your take on plusJOYED.

Well at the moment I simply don't trust his town read on me. Partly because his town read on me is based on my opener. For that i can't tell if he is town over reading what should really at most be slightly town slot (just above null). But instead its top town read.

[bob3141]

also I'm gonna hop off this wagon and onto this one
UNVOTE:
VOTE: taylor

Whats your opinion on kerset. And how does your read on taylor and iV comapre

[bob3141]

Me:
bob (townie god) > shelly > ydrasse > andres > mena > suadade > kerset > teacher > osuka > IV (leaning more townie) >  NDMath > taylor (scum extraordinaire)

[bob3141]

if taylor was lower down that iv. With IV having upward trend. Why not move sooner.

Rather than only movign after kerset got voted up

[PlusJOYED]

I wasn't confident in IV's towniness until recently

[shellyc]

kerset still fluff posting

709 reads list only has two (2) SRs