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[PenguinPower]

[the worst]

vote count 1.01

MURDERCAT (1): PenguinPower
PenguinPower (1): Battle Mage
bob3141 (1): Isis
Battle Mage (1): ManWithNoName

Not voting: GeniusGamer, Tayl0r Swift, bob3141, Not_Mafia, Dongempire, Bambi Jay, NorwegianboyEE, MURDERCAT, Lost

Deadline: (expired on 2020-09-19 07:30:00)


mod notes:
- PenguinPower modkill strike 1
- quack

[Battle Mage]

looking down the playerlist, someone better conftown me N1, as my life expectancy looks pretty short

[PenguinPower]

The war has just begun, duck.

[Battle Mage]

*ducks*

[Bambi Jay]

If I'm the tracker/Vigi I'll take my time to shoot Battle Mage tonight.

Frankly Tracker will only be good if you trust your ability to only catch one scum out it and then die. At least with Vigi your garunteed 2 shots going through before you die.

Vigilante is the superior option because at least then the mafia Jailkeeper would have way more urgency jailing them instead of of randomly finding the other TI.

[Battle Mage]

If I'm the tracker/Vigi I'll take my time to shoot Battle Mage tonight.

Frankly Tracker will only be good if you trust your ability to only catch one scum out it and then die. At least with Vigi your garunteed 2 shots going through before you die.

Vigilante is the superior option because at least then the mafia Jailkeeper would have way more urgency jailing them instead of of randomly finding the other TI.

if anyone actually did this, I would support an automatic policy-lynch for playing against town wincon. I'm confident it won't happen though.

[Tayl0r Swift]

4 reasons vig is superior

1) it can catch more than one scum before dying
2) its more fun
3) you dont have to rely on scum being next to each other and next to the tracker in the player list, you can simply target scummy people
4) see 1-3

[PenguinPower]

if anyone actually did this, I would support an automatic policy-lynch for playing against town wincon. I'm confident it won't happen though.

Have you played with Bambi before?

[PenguinPower]

3) you dont have to rely on scum being next to each other and next to the tracker in the player list, you can simply target scummy people

wut?

[PenguinPower]

- PenguinPower modkill strike 1

[Battle Mage]

4 reasons vig is superior

1) it can catch more than one scum before dying
2) its more fun
3) you dont have to rely on scum being next to each other and next to the tracker in the player list, you can simply target scummy people
4) see 1-3

1. it can also kill town including power roles for no reason
2. eh
3. don't know what the playerlist has to do with anything?

I'm not gonna labour the point, i think it's dumb, if others disagree, you're wrong

[Battle Mage]

also vig just fks up the hider but w/e

[Battle Mage]

if anyone actually did this, I would support an automatic policy-lynch for playing against town wincon. I'm confident it won't happen though.

Have you played with Bambi before?

i dont think so, although guessing she's an alt?

[PenguinPower]

Yes, but also my point is that is totally something that Bambi would do.

[Battle Mage]

Yes, but also my point is that is totally something that Bambi would do.

quick game then, time for another?

[Bambi Jay]

4 reasons vig is superior

1) it can catch more than one scum before dying
2) its more fun
3) you dont have to rely on scum being next to each other and next to the tracker in the player list, you can simply target scummy people
4) see 1-3

A lady of good sense I see.

But yeah a good Vigilante does a crap ton more than a good Tracker. BM probably trying to discourage it so Mafia can control all the kills.

[Battle Mage]

4 reasons vig is superior

1) it can catch more than one scum before dying
2) its more fun
3) you dont have to rely on scum being next to each other and next to the tracker in the player list, you can simply target scummy people
4) see 1-3

A lady of good sense I see.

But yeah a good Vigilante does a crap ton more than a good Tracker. BM probably trying to discourage it so Mafia can control all the kills.

a bad or even mediocre vigilante screws town.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i promise to be accurate with my shots then

[Battle Mage]

my last game was vigilante themed - 2 town players had the ability to vig kill each night. scum won with a clean sweep on Day 3. if you canvassed players in that game, i'm not sure they'd tell you being a vig was more fun than being a tracker

[Battle Mage]

i feel like a teacher in a challenging school right now. luckily it's the weekend and monday is an inset day! take it easy folks

[Bambi Jay]

Sounds more like your jealous you signed up for a Vigilante theme game and didn't get the ability to kill that time.

I ain't arguing a Vigilante isn't swingy, I'm arguing it's a high risk high reward game. Calling it "going against wincon" feels more like your instantly taking an option off of the table town can use. Also in the same post you say you'd lynch the player for not conforming to your style. So it feels more like your a hardballing scum trying to play town leader early. Hence my suggestion for the Vig to shoot you.

[Tayl0r Swift]

vig gives town more power and more control over the game. especially if we know theres a vig we can all help to direct the shot.

[Battle Mage]

Sounds more like your jealous you signed up for a Vigilante theme game and didn't get the ability to kill that time.

I ain't arguing a Vigilante isn't swingy, I'm arguing it's a high risk high reward game. Calling it "going against wincon" feels more like your instantly taking an option off of the table town can use. Also in the same post you say you'd lynch the player for not conforming to your style. So it feels more like your a hardballing scum trying to play town leader early. Hence my suggestion for the Vig to shoot you.

My view on this setup is, if town is smart it can either quickly fall in town's favour, or at worst be reasonably competitive and balanced. At best, a vig can be marginally better than a tracker, but the relative higher risk massively outweighs the modest higher reward. So yes, I was definitely trying to take it off the table, because I think it's an anti-town play. Does taking a pro-town stance make me more likely scum? You could make that case. If your argument is instead that I'm scum simply because I'm arguing selecting Vig is bad and nobody should do it, I would kindly refer you to my last Hard Boiled game where I did the exact same thing as town in a defacto leadership role as you described it (hence, in itself, it's certainly not a BM scum-tell).

I think calling for me to be killed (albeit by the vig) for disagreeing with you is not much different to me calling for you to be killed for disagreeing with me. I don't have a strong view on your alignment from it, but would be wary if your post above was serious (I'm assuming it's mostly a joke).

Anyway, I'm gonna kick back for a bit and return to do some scumhunting later, happy trails!

[Battle Mage]

also, I was scum in that vig game, so i got to kill plenty