Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[PlusJOYED]

VOTE: April
meh I feel like scum is this or Prism slot cuz I don't really have a clear idea as to where to look for scum so...

what do you think of muffins slot ali?

[Alisae]

like now i like midway
i think bell honestly seems fine atm? Maybe if I'm overlooking something its probably this
I am never scumreading plus, at least not D1
I like morph and I'm sheeping their bork read
Muffin addressed my concern and I don't feel strongly about it anymore
I still feel like tunnels is town
Bulge nothing stood out yet
SS I don't think I can read at this stage of the game I don't feel like I've ever been able to read him early well
Oh ya mariar is in this game as well right
I actually have a lot more nulls then I thought I did so maybe April has a chance of being town
Prism is ???

I have like 5 people I don't have reads on
maybe April could be town honestly I thought I had way less people I didn't have reads on but then I remembered that SS and Maria exist
UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

VOTE: April
meh I feel like scum is this or Prism slot cuz I don't really have a clear idea as to where to look for scum so...

what do you think of muffins slot ali?

This addresses my concern for now, when I saw this I tried to turn on my brain on a bit and muffins is right here, I don't think it makes sense for that to be a scum play. It could still be Muffin but like this satifies me for now I think

I don't like muffins' morph push it doesn't feel like a push coming from a villager that wants to be right but rather scum who is just trying to maybe turn morph into a lynchable slot

i'm pretty sure i'd never bother doing that as scum, in much the same way i am pretty sure if morph is scum, they're not even going to bother trying to get a wagon going on me and even if one does develop, they'll be nowhere to be seen on it

no point risking looking bad on something you know is flipping town, especially if you know the slot is going to make it hell for you going down

there's no reward for the risk

that's what night kills are for anyway

(and yes, i'm just saying this to make them think i'm town for pushing them by pretending i wouldn't bother as scum)

[PlusJOYED]

For me bell had a really strong start but it's kinda slowly petered out to be more null, but I still TR them overall

[Bell]

I’m curious what S_S thinks about alisae since if you remove the length of alisae’s post it’s basically his scum entrance.

[PlusJOYED]

I also don't like 851, I don't see how that would change your opinion really, it's NAI at best

[Alisae]

I also don't like 851, I don't see how that would change your opinion really, it's NAI at best

Why? It makes sense to me

[Alisae]

Like you're right
it is NAI but it kind of addresses the concern I had with him in that I didn't think his read was in good faith

[zMuffinMan]

but scum-reading noddy because he didn't include some line about being paranoid when he was giving town reads ? ? ?

I can see ffery doing this

but on one hand you're upset that they went after noddy for something so flimsy
and on the other you're upset that they backed off the pressure at a certain point

-b

those are two separate instances that are like 10 pages apart...

[PlusJOYED]

I also don't like 851, I don't see how that would change your opinion really, it's NAI at best

Why? It makes sense to me

let me ask you this.
If someone does something scummy and their defense is "I wouldn't have gotten myself here if I was scum" does that make them more town?

[zMuffinMan]

to be clear, i dont really believe both ffery and cabd came to the conclusion that noddy was scum because he didn't add a footnote about ffery paranoia when giving town reads. i also don't believe they thought they could push that wagon through and still look good so using the "nacho" approach as an excuse to back off was pretty much their best option if they are scum

could they do it as town too? sure. but im struggling to believe they dont see anything town from noddy hydra unless they just haven't been reading their posts

[Alisae]

I also don't like 851, I don't see how that would change your opinion really, it's NAI at best

Why? It makes sense to me

let me ask you this.
If someone does something scummy and their defense is "I wouldn't have gotten myself here if I was scum" does that make them more town?

Mafia isn't as black and white as you're suggesting it is.

[zMuffinMan]

my 3 am brain was, without actually looking at the thread, thinking very similar thoughts about a fairly wide swath of game stuff that zmuffin hasn't posted about, while spending most of his time negging us.

interesting

have you talked to cabd about this? and if so, what did he say?

ftr, i have fully formed thoughts on a lot of people in this game. i also have scum reads outside of you

i am mostly interested in who says what about them before i do anything with them, but ill throw you a bone here and just ask outright: is there a reason why you haven't talked about alisae (especially the catchup posts) in recent pages?

and as a general question to anyone who cares to answer: what is the major problem with 955?

[Something_Smart]

I’m curious what S_S thinks about alisae since if you remove the length of alisae’s post it’s basically his scum entrance.

Eh?

[midwaybear]

It’s not really noise if they’re my posts. I don’t need to sort myself.

Not sure you completely missed the point or are being like this intentionally.
Assuming good faith, I feel like many of your posts (like this one) serve no real purpose other than fluff and fit in the category of: short comment that scum make. Like you say you are about the journey and yadda yadda, but in this game, it matters if you have a destination and I'm not really seeing that. You have reads like morph town, Prism scum, Alisae scum, and those happen to be the people who I don't really even remember you questioning.

[Something_Smart]

midwaybear I really liked your posts in WW&V. I wasn't faking that.

I hate them here

[The Bulge]

and as a general question to anyone who cares to answer: what is the major problem with 955?

i see what youre getting at, but ali really was not included in the gamestart pm if you check the To: line

[zMuffinMan]

wait there was a gamestart PM?

[zMuffinMan]

that wasn't the issue anyway

[morph the cat]

my 3 am brain was, without actually looking at the thread, thinking very similar thoughts about a fairly wide swath of game stuff that zmuffin hasn't posted about, while spending most of his time negging us.

interesting

have you talked to cabd about this? and if so, what did he say?

I had his agreement to vote you when I unvoted notsci if I were so moved.

ftr, i have fully formed thoughts on a lot of people in this game. i also have scum reads outside of you

i am mostly interested in who says what about them before i do anything with them, but ill throw you a bone here and just ask outright: is there a reason why you haven't talked about alisae (especially the catchup posts) in recent pages?

You mean the Alisae we've been in convo with in this thread?

There's a line of inquiry ongoing.

[morph the cat]

Gamestart PM was sent to....

To: innocentvillager borkjerfkin fferyllt GuyInFreezer notscience Remilia Scarlet morph the cat The Bulge Prism MariaR Bell PlusJOYED Secret Tunnel

[Something_Smart]

The gamestart PM seems to have been borked. I received a PM that was only sent to 3 people. Looks like Bulge received a different one?

[zMuffinMan]

the issue is why would scum-alisae be here at game start if alisae had no knowledge of the game starting

[The Bulge]

that wasn't the issue anyway

eh, no points for me

[The Bulge]

nvm i do get points that's what i thought you were getting at