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[shellyc]

nuuuuu uno im coming back
VOTE: Redados

noraa stop being manipulated so easily if you’re town or we’ll have to policy you

also, a comment on PlusJoy
they’re LHF and my limbait in all scum games ive been in with them
but I still think the slot is scum because of Jackson

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EXILE STATUS

[3] Redados:

UNOwen, NorwegianboyEE, Noraa

[2] Saudade:

davesaz, duppin

[1] Tayl0r Swift:

Odd Day Jester

[1] shellyc:

Mundivore

[1] Noraa:

bugspray

[1] davesaz:

Saudade

[1] duppin:

Tayl0r Swift

[1] NorwegianboyEE:

PlusJOYED

[1] Mundivore:

Redados

[1] Not Voting:

shellyc

With 13 still flying around the place, it takes 7 votes to ground someone.

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[shellyc]

confidence is making people TR shelly. why can't I tr Taylor for it?

not everyone is confident as town
confidence is AI for some only

what if im a scumhunting god and the solve is Jackson/Taylor/Noraa and I called in on what, page 3

pedit: don’t try mod

[shellyc]

oh I thought that was pagetop snipe lol
nvm

[shellyc]

Ok ok I think Redados is scum however I think Norwee and Jester's reasoning for why he is town is understandable as well. I think this Redados wagon isn't a great way to find scum bc its a huge mess atm anyways so scums can really really easily mix in here. I still want this wagon to go thru but I must admit its kinda a hot mess rn

fencesitting again noraa

can you start having Stances instead of blending in with the consensus

[shellyc]

this is probably omgussy but i don't care, there's actually like no way i can see NB being town so I'm gonna shoot my shot for now
UNVOTE:
VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

do you think Norway would really defend his scumbuddy here
idrt that’s a really viable partnership to be fair

Norway overall gives me gut town vibes but that slot I haven’t revisited in a long time
joyed do you mind casing them or something

8 pages to go

[shellyc]

Norwee is likely town aorn and if u want to SR than siot, ur gonna need a shit ton of evidence cuz they are universally TRed rn. Norwee is not on the block and I think its literally impossible and we'd all have to be insane to lim a slot that seems that town day 1. ISO Norwee, he's pretty townie rn.

noraa can you EXPLAIN THINGS?

I concur with this but the most important part is the WHY

duppin/Taylor + joyed/norway
I don’t want to flip sausage, it’s a low info flip
one of joyed/Taylor/redados? is a good flip

[shellyc]

We got there. So going way back to my previous question which you did not answer - can you point to where you believe she has been anti-town in this game in a way that you wouldn't expect from town!Noraa? What about her reads suggest she is scum?

I think uno prodding redados to give their thought in a productive way kinda +townpoints to them and makes me doubt redados

in the mean time
VOTE: Taylor

this is probably a scum slot and duppin is townie + their miselim

[shellyc]

Redados has no case on me. He's literally just OMGUSing me to hell and back. I admire scum!Redados' courage to not backpedal but all his arguments are just "Noraa is scum. Why? Just because she is"

Ok i will cave in on the basis that it's the leading wagon and i think you're more townie than him right now, so screw it.
VOTE: Redados
Can't wait for the inevitable "omg he's bussing his scum teammate!" comment from PlusJoyed.

norway did you just voteswitch 3 or 4 times or something

i dont like that at all

[shellyc]

Plus I dont like how agreeable u r.

joyed is not agreeable
pushing norway (a hot take) is kinda +townpoints since town them actually solves

[Tayl0r Swift]

this is a bad reason for a vote on someone.

sometimes your vote doesn’t need to be on your biggest scumread
we need to get a lim through and you’re going today most likely

am i? thats news. interesting. well guess i should make my peace. take a close look at dupping tomorrow when i flip green. good luck!

[shellyc]

im being completely ignored, meanwhile everyone is totally caught up in this shitfight which is probably TVT, and the posts going back and forth arent even any good.

"youre scum!"
"no youre scum!"
"how dare you call me scum you must be scum"
"wow thats OMGUS, so you must be scum"
"youre tunneled on me, so youre scum"
"you dont even have any arguments for calling me scum, so youre scum"

why are you arbitrarily calling a fight with (as you put it) not much logical consistency as TvT
this is weird

[shellyc]

not only is everyone ignoring my posts about duppin, but everyone is giving duppin a pass for refusing to engage me.

im finding it interesting that you nullbin / ignore interactions of the entire plist except duppin and hard tunnel them
which makes me think youre not having a town agenda of trying to sort everyone

[shellyc]

I agree. I see some soft tunneling from him on Saudade which is a bit strange. Saudade has posted so few posts and duping kinda just strikes me as a player that saw saudade as a lil sus or easy limbait(depending on alignment) and basically skimmed everything else and decided to cling to saudade and not let go for the life of him.

so you think confidence is now a scumtell
the inconsistency

[shellyc]

My current limpool is {noraa, unowen, mundivore, shelly}

what do you think of norway and taylor aorn?
do you concur with any of those pushes?

[shellyc]

wtf? Why are u voting a really inactive slot now?
VOTE: Redados
ur so scummy its unbelievable

didnt you "not want plus to accidentally hammer a townie"
weird as fuck switch

[shellyc]

Mundi's pretty null on my radar rn. They've said like 2 things so eh.

mundivore has more than 2 posts in his iso
if you think they are fluffposting then VOTE

[shellyc]

good god you're obvscumming so hard

elaborate
the post was not especially AI

[Tayl0r Swift]

how are people letting duppin get away with not explaining reads at all? everyone who posts about duppin seems to agree that the posts are bad, but theres no momentum towards the wagon, and immediately a shitty counterwagon forms on me.

duppin is 90% scum here.

can you actually *case* duppin for once
can you explain instead of saying that “they have no reads” which isn’t strictly AI

having no reads on page 70 is strictly AI. its fucking ridiculously scummy because it suggests that you arent reading the thread and trying to solve. town needs to read the thread and solve, scum can just coast by and hope not too much pressure mounts on their scumbuddies.

anyway, here is the case:

duppin has not had any read progression in 50 pages now.
duppin cannot point to specific posts that make him scumread him. after being pressed for an extended period duppin pointed to one post where there was a decent level of engagement with a slot he says he scumreads. one post.
duppin's vote has been parked on a slot who is inactive for irl reasons and has since done almost nothing to solve.
duppin is very wishy-washy in reads, and seems capable basically of stating a townread-ish, but cant justify scumreads. that sort of inability to scumhunt is generally a sign that the person is scum, since scum have difficulty scumhunting.
when pressed to produce content and reads, duppin points exclusively to posts he has already made, which suggests that duppin is unable to engage critically with the game and that he is concerned with not contradicting himself. if his scumreads were genuine he would be able to give off-the-cuff reads and be more spontaneous.

all of these are things that are not only anti-town and bad, but more than likely come from a scum mindset. theres no genuine scumhunting. if hes town he really needs to step it up, but the way hes been attempting to deflect my pressure suggests that he isnt engaging with me in good faith.

and then theres the fact that no one has been willing to move their vote or get on board. if a townie is really really insistent on pressuring another town slot, usually scum are willing to hop on the wagon and see where it goes, because they dont have to lead the wagon and the fight is TvT. since i expressed my scumread on duppin a counterwagon has formed on me, but no one has moved to vote duppin. what does that tell you?

ive asked multiple people and no one has been able to walk me through duppin's logic on his reads and show me that they are able to see any sort of progression. some people are lazy - and fair enough. but at this point everyone who has put in legwork has said that they thought duppin is at least somewhat scummy.

[shellyc]

finally ive finished the 12 pages

i think norwayVplus is kinda TvS-ish, with the lack of coherent logic
I think taylor is my top SR
plusjoy is still a scummy slot
scumpings on noraa has increased but might just be LHF
if taylor is red duppin is probgreen
norwee has now become nullish
redados is townleaning with the pushes and mentality i see a townie mindset tbh
mundivore iso isnt exactly great but i want to see more content
jester still town
hot take i kinda SR bugs for not giving us his notes but stating he has notes in notes pt. moving out of rvs is nai and idk why hes getting so much cred for it.

[Tayl0r Swift]

not only is everyone ignoring my posts about duppin, but everyone is giving duppin a pass for refusing to engage me.

im finding it interesting that you nullbin / ignore interactions of the entire plist except duppin and hard tunnel them
which makes me think youre not having a town agenda of trying to sort everyone

at what point did i say everyone else was null?

ive pretty clearly stated a number of townreads, and duppin is not my only scumread.

[Tayl0r Swift]

finally ive finished the 12 pages

i think norwayVplus is kinda TvS-ish, with the lack of coherent logic
I think taylor is my top SR
plusjoy is still a scummy slot
scumpings on noraa has increased but might just be LHF
if taylor is red duppin is probgreen
norwee has now become nullish
redados is townleaning with the pushes and mentality i see a townie mindset tbh
mundivore iso isnt exactly great but i want to see more content
jester still town
hot take i kinda SR bugs for not giving us his notes but stating he has notes in notes pt. moving out of rvs is nai and idk why hes getting so much cred for it.

ok now that you're voting for me im gonna need you to explain why you scumread me exactly. and why do you think duppin is town?

please cite specific posts.

[Tayl0r Swift]

to correct post 1818 above:

duppin cannot point to specific posts that make him scumread *anyone*

[Tayl0r Swift]

My current limpool is {noraa, unowen, mundivore, shelly}

what do you think of norway and taylor aorn?
do you concur with any of those pushes?

finally ive finished the 12 pages

i think norwayVplus is kinda TvS-ish, with the lack of coherent logic
I think taylor is my top SR
plusjoy is still a scummy slot
scumpings on noraa has increased but might just be LHF
if taylor is red duppin is probgreen
norwee has now become nullish
redados is townleaning with the pushes and mentality i see a townie mindset tbh
mundivore iso isnt exactly great but i want to see more content
jester still town
hot take i kinda SR bugs for not giving us his notes but stating he has notes in notes pt. moving out of rvs is nai and idk why hes getting so much cred for it.

what happened between these two posts that made you go from norwee!scum to norwee!null? i realize you read 12 pages but uh.. you didnt point to ANY POSTS THAT CHANGED YOUR MIND

[shellyc]

finally ive finished the 12 pages

i think norwayVplus is kinda TvS-ish, with the lack of coherent logic
I think taylor is my top SR
plusjoy is still a scummy slot
scumpings on noraa has increased but might just be LHF
if taylor is red duppin is probgreen
norwee has now become nullish
redados is townleaning with the pushes and mentality i see a townie mindset tbh
mundivore iso isnt exactly great but i want to see more content
jester still town
hot take i kinda SR bugs for not giving us his notes but stating he has notes in notes pt. moving out of rvs is nai and idk why hes getting so much cred for it.

ok now that you're voting for me im gonna need you to explain why you scumread me exactly. and why do you think duppin is town?

please cite specific posts.

I never scumread Norway, I asked you to elaborate on Norway