Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Datisi]

small brain - "are my reads wrong somewhere?"

big brain - "are these wagons s/s?"

pedit: @ico

[Iconeum]

small brain - "are my reads wrong somewhere?"

big brain - "are these wagons s/s?"

pedit: @ico

both is correct and if both scum then -> wtf are scum doing

[Bunno]

shelly vs taylor is more likely than not something other than SvS. Their interactions doesn't seem like partners at all.

Taylor may have unvoted now but before she was slowly throwing shade on shelly when shelly started to town lean her.

Not impossible but probably not SvS.

[Iconeum]

Taylor is been around the thread since yesterday night

0 new reads and developments

bails out of shelly wagon on L-1

says that "doesn't know" what to do with me pushing her

datisi soft-defending taylor it's been a long time now if anyone didn't notice, when people were suspecting taylor before datisi was like "yeah but there's scummier slots"

If Taylor is mafia consider putting datisi in the pool of untrustworthy people.

shellyc having no new reads over the course of 1 irl day is troubling for you, but noraa having exactly 1 (one) read for the entire game is fine?

noraa only recently started scumreading me (pure omgus), and had a forced townread because teacher was pulling their arm

but you townread that?

[Iconeum]

i mean

you should be scumreading half the playerlist here

[Bunno]

Taylor unvoting sounds less like a partner trying to bail out in the last minutes of bussing (which is a very very very rare thing to happen, you need to have too much courage to unvote your partner on L-1), and more like she wants to distance herself of shelly wagon even though she voted him it's been more than an entire week by now.

Look I've tried my best but I can't understand a world where it's town!Taylor.

[Datisi]

small brain - "are my reads wrong somewhere?"

big brain - "are these wagons s/s?"

pedit: @ico

both is correct and if both scum then -> wtf are scum doing

losing the game is the answer

ftr, i wouldn't put too much stock into the wagons being s/s either, pretty sure shelly was shading taylor earlier too
also it's

never

rarely that easy etc

[Iconeum]

Taylor unvoting sounds less like a partner trying to bail out in the last minutes of bussing (which is a very very very rare thing to happen, you need to have too much courage to unvote your partner on L-1), and more like she wants to distance herself of shelly wagon even though she voted him it's been more than an entire week by now.

Look I've tried my best but I can't understand a world where it's town!Taylor.

so what exactly is the scum benefit here to bail out of L-1 on a town wagon? considering the counterwagon is yourself?

[Iconeum]

*from taylor pov i mean

[Iconeum]

bunno, ur trying to divert a lot of attention away from shellyc without trying to dismantle the actual points there are on shellyc

what do you think of the case?

[Bunno]

shellyc having no new reads over the course of 1 irl day is troubling for you, but noraa having exactly 1 (one) read for the entire game is fine?

noraa only recently started scumreading me (pure omgus), and had a forced townread because teacher was pulling their arm

but you townread that?

Did you actually read my read progression on Noraa or are you just projecting on me?

Noraa may not have many reads but she's been talking and commenting about slots and common topics, I said that recently I found obnoxious the fact she's barely doing anything out of insisting on BM, even did give you points for pointing out, but the difference here is that Taylor is around but I woudn't really say she's doing anything other than fluff.

Shelly had reads, now it's a bit more messed up, but she had reads through the game and pushed people.

Noraa commented on most of what happened in thread, did push BM, did TR Alonzo, had some minor read developments here and there. Even more important you said she seemed reluctant on her town game, which is exactly what's happening here in D1.

Taylor has been chilling around in this thread since yesterday night but doesn't have any pushes, her vote for an entire week was in her own words a RVS, and now she bails out of it on L-1.

It's not comparable, stop using rethoric/hyperbole to try to make it look like it's equal.

Taylor hasn't been playing this game - at all.

[Bunno]

bunno, ur trying to divert a lot of attention away from shellyc without trying to dismantle the actual points there are on shellyc

what do you think of the case?

Oh with all due respect shut up

If you can't see how Taylor is scummier than shelly I think it might be on you more than me

I can be wrong and if it's the case I'll apologize, but comparing Taylor's ISO to Shelly/Noraa is pure hyperbole/rethoric.

It's so bad that you look at Shelly/Noraa's ISO and try to say "look, they did this, it looks scummy right?", while Taylor you just zoom out and question yourself "ok but like, what have you been doing at all for an entire week?"

[Iconeum]

yeah you have been reading a different game i think

there has been barely any progression in noraa's reads throughout the game, and whatever reads noraa did come up with had to be dragged out of noraa by request of multiple people asking reads multiple times, and even then noraa barely touched on more then 2-3 slots in total.

and while recent evidence does suggest that's actually not scum!indicative for noraa, it doesn't mean your reads can be off like i said

[Iconeum]

Oh with all due respect shut up

excuse me?

[Iconeum]

If you can't see how Taylor is scummier than shelly I think it might be on you more than me

where the fuck am i defending a town!taylor? was it me voting there?

[Iconeum]

bunno, ur trying to divert a lot of attention away from shellyc without trying to dismantle the actual points there are on shellyc

what do you think of the case?

Oh with all due respect shut up

If you can't see how Taylor is scummier than shelly I think it might be on you more than me

I can be wrong and if it's the case I'll apologize, but comparing Taylor's ISO to Shelly/Noraa is pure hyperbole/rethoric.

It's so bad that you look at Shelly/Noraa's ISO and try to say "look, they did this, it looks scummy right?", while Taylor you just zoom out and question yourself "ok but like, what have you been doing at all for an entire week?"

i'm calling you out because you are scumreading a slot for *reason x*, while another slot is doing *reason x* times ten, but you land a townread there

yeah that bothers me a bit

[Iconeum]

tell me to shut up one more time

[Bunno]

I talked about shelly with Menalque already, look at my ISO as well. I'm not going to repeat myself over and over.

You say I'm trying to divert attention from shelly, but all I feel is that

people/you

are using shelly/noraa to divert attention away from Taylor

You just had thought "noraa" looked town but still shades her and says I'm diverting attention from them.

Stop the rethoric, I'm pushing my Taylor read, I'm confident on it, Shelly looks like Noraa to me, meh wagons, and you just turned around your opinion on Noraa in the last page.

Diverting attention from other wagons is just a consequence of pushing another wagon, it should only be obvious.

It may be I'm partner with whoever you want me to be, but it may be town that is trying to elim his scum read.

The only way you can discern from the two is to engage with my case on Taylor but you just try to compare it to shelly/Noraa and out yourself of voting Taylor.

It's not fun and you're back to null, nullscum if Taylor is mafia.

[Iconeum]

[Bunno]

If you can't see how Taylor is scummier than shelly I think it might be on you more than me

where the fuck am i defending a town!taylor? was it me voting there?

you outed yourself out of voting the slot in split seconds

voting and voting out is easy

staying in the wagon is another story

[Iconeum]

yeah sure you just tunnel in on 1 slot

i'll try to be the townie here and try to look at the bigger picture

[Iconeum]

I talked about shelly with Menalque already, look at my ISO as well. I'm not going to repeat myself over and over.

You say I'm trying to divert attention from shelly, but all I feel is that

people/you

are using shelly/noraa to divert attention away from Taylor

You just had thought "noraa" looked town but still shades her and says I'm diverting attention from them.

Stop the rethoric, I'm pushing my Taylor read, I'm confident on it, Shelly looks like Noraa to me, meh wagons, and you just turned around your opinion on Noraa in the last page.

Diverting attention from other wagons is just a consequence of pushing another wagon, it should only be obvious.

It may be I'm partner with whoever you want me to be, but it may be town that is trying to elim his scum read.

The only way you can discern from the two is to engage with my case on Taylor but you just try to compare it to shelly/Noraa and out yourself of voting Taylor.

It's not fun and you're back to null, nullscum if Taylor is mafia.

you didn't touch on why shellyc isn't scum, or on the actual points brought out against shellyc. You only went 'taylor is scum->wagons arent s/s so shellyc prob town'

which is fine btw

but i just asked the simple question of adressing the points there are against shellyc - which you apparently are hell bent on ignoring

I only just got on the shellyc wagon, and i'm the one calling so much attention ONTO the counterwagon that is taylor
don't give me that misrepping crap about taking attention away from your precious little wagon

[Bunno]

I've no interest in wasting more of my time on this. Already wasted my entire yesterday. I'm going to have lunch.

I may be right, I may be wrong, but if you all can just stop saying I'm trying to divert attention from other people wagon and actually engage my Taylor wagon, that would be nice.

Not one

I repeat

Not one person has actually managed to excuse Taylor behavior by anything other than trying to compare it to noraa/shelly when it's not equal at all. You can use how much rethoric/hyperbole you want but the unique slot that is close to Taylor levels of contribution is Bob.

This game has been about Noraa/Shelly it's been 50 pages, more than one week, but when I introduce you a new wagon it's because I'm partners with noraa/shelly.

If you want to elim them so much, do as you wish. Just don't blame me for it later + I shouldn't be blamed if I miselim you later.

[Bunno]

yeah sure you just tunnel in on 1 slot

i'll try to be the townie here and try to look at the bigger picture

You need only to focus on one scummy person

After you eliminate one, rinse and repeat

I looked at everyone equally, Taylor seemed like the worst slot, I'm focusing on Taylor today

I don't like to use past games but I tunneled FlavorLeaf/Kuribo for entire 3 in-game days in TM 2020 and it turns out I was right, while the one screaming "yeah but you're too tunneled" was just letting scum slip.

Tunneling =/= bad

[Iconeum]

it's very much possible you are right about your case on taylor, and that shellyc is town

that would point towards someone in like (menal/GP/??) being scum on shellyc wagon to counter the push

do you think it's that scummy/strange of me to try and sort you so that I can make a better informed decision today and on next days?

instead you go full defensive mode because you are asked to look/comment on something?

nice play bruh