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[3] Tayl0r Swift:

Hectic, shellyc, PlusJOYED

[3] PlusJOYED:

duppin, NorwegianboyEE, Tayl0r Swift

[1] duppin:

Mundivore

[1] Mundivore:

Redados

[1] Saudade:

davesaz

[1] bugspray:

Noraa

[1] davesaz:

Saudade

[1] Redados:

UNOwen

[1] Noraa:

bugspray

[0] Not Voting:

With 13 still flying around the place, it takes 7 votes to ground someone.

The Day 1 deadline is in:

(expired on 2020-10-03 14:30:00)

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[Noraa]

its the bugspray gambit where i claim to have a reason to think there are masons when i have no reason to think that and then i find out who is town
VOTE: noraa

This vote is OMGUSy and also this whole "it was a test" thing just sounds stupid. Definitely not rubbing me the right way. I think bugs isn't town here.

[davesaz]

UNVOTE:
Didn't realize my vote was still there.

bugspray can you explain how Noraa's reaction is more scum than town?

Tayl0r's claim would be NAI in a vacuum because it's just as likely a scum role intended to mess stuff up. The informed claim of there being a mafia doc (is that Norwegian? posting in quick reply so can't check easily) isn't clearing precisely, but it does lower the chances it's a scum role. A devious game designer might have both scum roles (doc and rolestop) as a way to punish town for thinking it's a hard clear but that would imply lots of town power.

The Tayl0r / Norwegian interaction doesn't look SvS unless it's award worthy theater. Could be SvT, with Occam pointing to Norwegian as scum. If that were true and I'm remembering who claimed informed, it makes a dandy WK gambit. TvT and talking past each other is a strong possibility.

Possible but unlikely would be a mafia doc fakeclaiming rolestopper to change things up. I don't see that as a play that scum!Tayl0r would make without first knowing there is an informed, and I don't think that would be Normal. Pre-empting any accusations of fence sitting on this post, I think it's important to explain the rejected paths.

Of those two, Tayl0r is more likely town than Norwegian, and both town is the most likely of the combinations.

[davesaz]

Are my eyes deceiving me, or is that bat sucking a paci? Cute pic regardless.

[PlusJOYED]

At the moment I believe that bugspray, Jester, Norwee and UNOwen are all town. Actually I am kind of feeling the most confident about my UNOwen read at the moment simply because I feel his thoughtprocess is so damn town. If he is scum I think he is playing a really good game so far

why is norwee town?

he's not

[NorwegianboyEE]

At the moment I believe that bugspray, Jester, Norwee and UNOwen are all town. Actually I am kind of feeling the most confident about my UNOwen read at the moment simply because I feel his thoughtprocess is so damn town. If he is scum I think he is playing a really good game so far

why is norwee town?

he's not

If you didn't think i'm town why were you voting Tayl0r at all.

[PlusJOYED]

im caught up. you guys are hyper
UNVOTE:
VOTE: norwee
norwee is literally a scumbucket, he's been playing scummy all game.
Why the hell would you reveal that your informed of a maf doc if you're town, when Taylor didn't claim doc, she claimed rolestopper?
Could this be from town!norwee? Nah, that doesn't make sense. A pr has no reason to be so bloodthirsty, and less reason to worry about getting elimed day 1. Instead norwee lost their shit every time someone pushed them, makes no sense. Especially when pushing for an elim when taylor is at fucking e1.
Norwee is the scummiest player on this list hands down.
I should not have joined the taylor wagon, I'm sorry. I did it because no one was taking my norwee case seriously and hectic told me he'd go into our slots day 2, and taylor had some associations with norwee so I foolishly preassociated the 2 slots

I'm not moving from norwee unless they become mod confirmed town the rest of day 1.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't think you've ever seen how i play as town so why you making assumptions.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why the hell would you reveal that your informed of a maf doc if you're town, when Taylor didn't claim doc, she claimed rolestopper?

Do you even know what a rolestopper is.

Could this be from town!norwee? Nah, that doesn't make sense. A pr has no reason to be so bloodthirsty, and less reason to worry about getting elimed day 1.

Why you assuming i'm PR. All i said was informed.

and taylor had some associations with norwee so I foolishly preassociated the 2 slots

Like what?

[Noraa]

Tbh I also assumed u were a pr. I can't think of another case scenario where you could know that a role exists in a closed setup unless ur lying. Idk I thought the same thing there so that might just be a noob thing. The rest of plus' case on u isn't flattering I must admit. it's rather .... weak.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why the hell would you reveal that your informed of a maf doc if you're town, when Taylor didn't claim doc, she claimed rolestopper?

Like how does this even make sense as an accusation.
It's not like i ended up justifying my vote on Taylor because of the information i shared.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway take a look at the timestamps here.
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:59 pm

im very close to really going off on norwee here.

im very frustrated with the rest of you too.

im the town rolestopper.

Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:01 pm

Oh that’s really interesting Taylor. Because i’m an informed role and i’ve been specifically told this setup has an mafia doctor.

2 minutes inbetween.

Why would i do some ridiculous fucking scum move where i analyze that claim in the span of 2 minutes and come up with "oh i'm informed of there being mafia doctor" as opposed to it actually being something i've been actively aware of?

[NorwegianboyEE]

So Plusjoyed, you should stop voting me if you're town and tell us who the real scum are if it isn't you. Because you continuing to tunnel me with that awful logic is really not helping your case.

[bugspray]

its the bugspray gambit where i claim to have a reason to think there are masons when i have no reason to think that and then i find out who is town
VOTE: noraa

This vote is OMGUSy and also this whole "it was a test" thing just sounds stupid. Definitely not rubbing me the right way. I think bugs isn't town here.

i have done it multi[le of my games go meta me lmao

[PlusJOYED]

Why the hell would you reveal that your informed of a maf doc if you're town, when Taylor didn't claim doc, she claimed rolestopper?

Do you even know what a rolestopper is.

Could this be from town!norwee? Nah, that doesn't make sense. A pr has no reason to be so bloodthirsty, and less reason to worry about getting elimed day 1.

Why you assuming i'm PR. All i said was informed.
informed is a pr
i know what rolestopper is, it's not a doc

and taylor had some associations with norwee so I foolishly preassociated the 2 slots

Like what?

[PlusJOYED]

Why the hell would you reveal that your informed of a maf doc if you're town, when Taylor didn't claim doc, she claimed rolestopper?

Like how does this even make sense as an accusation.
It's not like i ended up justifying my vote on Taylor because of the information i shared.

you were gunning for a kill that had nothing to do with your role

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why the hell would you reveal that your informed of a maf doc if you're town, when Taylor didn't claim doc, she claimed rolestopper?

Like how does this even make sense as an accusation.
It's not like i ended up justifying my vote on Taylor because of the information i shared.

you were gunning for a kill that had nothing to do with your role

Rolestopper is a protective role.
I was informed mafia has a protective role.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And yeah informed is technically named as "PR" in the wiki so i'll give you all that one.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway your slot is really not bringing me any plusjoy.
You should change your name to negativedepression.
Because that's how you make me feel everytime you post.

[PlusJOYED]

Anyway take a look at the timestamps here.
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:59 pm

im very close to really going off on norwee here.

im very frustrated with the rest of you too.

im the town rolestopper.

Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:01 pm

Oh that’s really interesting Taylor. Because i’m an informed role and i’ve been specifically told this setup has an mafia doctor.

2 minutes inbetween.

Why would i do some ridiculous fucking scum move where i analyze that claim in the span of 2 minutes and come up with "oh i'm informed of there being mafia doctor" as opposed to it actually being something i've been actively aware of?

you can make up shit on the fly easy. I'm a gated even night town neapolitian. It's not hard. You were just so desperate for a kill that you were willing to say anything to get taylor dead.
Saying your informed of a mafia roleblocker is too sus if/when taylor flips green.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If i was desperate for a kill on Tayl0r i would have done a way better fake claim there buddy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And you really think i would go that route if that was my goal? You're either the most dense townie i've ever met in my life or scum making up whatever you can to justify your tunnel on me. And honestly, i'm actually starting to think it's the former rather than the latter. It's just too bad that you had to be on my side.

[NorwegianboyEE]

UNVOTE:
I'm gonna need to hear from more players.

[Noraa]

this is a hot mess. what do u want to hear from me norwee?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can you answer why you saw a connection between me and tayl0r now?