i think the person who calls out the person doing the callout is likely to be scum. FoS BM here.In post 1919, Battle Mage wrote:i hadnt spotted this, and i think it was a mistake for you to draw attention to it like this. catching her in a lie would have been great. instead you've just forced her to claim PR, and then what?In post 1864, Bunno wrote:this should be held accountable and if you're lying you should be punished either way.
Anything other than a confirmable town role after this declaration is unnaceptable. If it's a town VT or town weak PR I would call this bad play territory.
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i don't necesarilly think teacher is town, but i think he is a bad flip because there hasn't been a lot of flow around his slot, if you know what I mean? not a lot of players have defended/pushed there, nor given opinions
noraa/shellyc have been dead hot, and are giving a TON of post-flip information on top of them being good to great flips aside from thatRawr!
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going forward into Day 2, I think we are in a much better position with 1 of noraa/shellyc out and nothing is stopping you from pushing your teacher case with everyone here to do their thing around it
it would be amazing if this town could get together first and settle something that is going to be settled anywayRawr!
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really? spoiler, on this page, you appear to be making this case yourself. are you getting bad ICO vibes too?In post 1885, Iconeum wrote:
i'm getting bad BM vibes hereIn post 1547, Battle Mage wrote:...if this is really all you're gonna do all game, i'm legit ok with policy elimming you today. like, what would you have done if i actually voted you?
am i seriously the only person actually using the little grey cells here?In post 1888, Iconeum wrote:
more scum vibesIn post 1597, Battle Mage wrote:
the whole point of getting a claim is being able to make a judgement on whether you believe it.In post 1592, Menalque wrote:the second best option would be Taylor but WHY would we do that when shelly has already claimed and has not gotten any townier
i asked for a claim
i got a claim
i was happy that the claim was good enough to buy her another day
that's the game buddy
you got a claim that was good enough to buy another day?? it was a VT!! claim??
which possible claim would you have considered *not* good enough? Open wolf claim?
it's not just about what the claim is, but the manner and circumstances on which it is made. Please don't make me tell you how to do the very basics.
or, you could interpret it as it actually happened: I wanted to explore other possibilities, and Menalque desperately tried to push shellyc in an attempt to avoid a teacher wagon starting. If your takeaway from those pages was "BM defended Shelly lol", then you need to go back and read better.In post 1889, Iconeum wrote:funnily enough, with as hard as BM is fighting this shellyc wagon, i'm feeling like we caught 2 of em
wow fk you. let me know when you've crawled out of menalque's pocket - i'll be out here fucking everything upIn post 1894, Iconeum wrote:
ur the fucker who's fucking this gamestate upIn post 1649, Battle Mage wrote:if menalque is really gonna railroad town into a defeat, that's on him
fucking stop itShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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man all i see from you and others is a lot of bitching and whining in defence of teacher.In post 1930, Iconeum wrote:can you see the sheer amount of fear scum would have if you and menalque were actually working together?
who has done nothing to warrant such a defence.
and isnt even defending himself.
You can see why I might think he is scum being carried?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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thats not true - if i was scum, and you were town, i'd have kept quiet and just NKed youIn post 1925, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
i think the person who calls out the person doing the callout is likely to be scum. FoS BM here.In post 1919, Battle Mage wrote:
i hadnt spotted this, and i think it was a mistake for you to draw attention to it like this. catching her in a lie would have been great. instead you've just forced her to claim PR, and then what?In post 1864, Bunno wrote:this should be held accountable and if you're lying you should be punished either way.
Anything other than a confirmable town role after this declaration is unnaceptable. If it's a town VT or town weak PR I would call this bad play territory.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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i think ur both townIn post 1931, Battle Mage wrote:wow fk you. let me know when you've crawled out of menalque's pocket - i'll be out here fucking everything upRawr!
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actually read the game ffs. you cuss me out for shit but you aint even tryingIn post 1926, Iconeum wrote:wHy, iS 10O% rAndOm lyNcHShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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it was a trolling reference to GP :pIn post 1935, Battle Mage wrote:
actually read the game ffs. you cuss me out for shit but you aint even tryingIn post 1926, Iconeum wrote:wHy, iS 10O% rAndOm lyNcH
i read and understand your case on him no worriesRawr!
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you realize we can't all be scum 'defending' teacher right?In post 1932, Battle Mage wrote:
man all i see from you and others is a lot of bitching and whining in defence of teacher.In post 1930, Iconeum wrote:can you see the sheer amount of fear scum would have if you and menalque were actually working together?
who has done nothing to warrant such a defence.
and isnt even defending himself.
You can see why I might think he is scum being carried?
and i'm not defending teacher per sé, rather pushing the thought that he is a suboptimal flip today for reasons i just statedRawr!
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my scumpings on you came from a place where you seem to be defending against a shellyc flip - much like you are scumreading/somewhat/ people who are against you trying to flip teacherRawr!
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if everyone here doesn't wanna cooperate with others, or try to establish some sense of towncore to work from
i'm done
VOTE: noraaRawr!
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you'll need to do better than this. at least i'm trying dude, help a brother outIn post 1898, Iconeum wrote:
bad case, do not agreeIn post 1658, Battle Mage wrote:Case on Teacher
ISO'd teacher.
Scumlean. Little output, and what's there is largely spam and fluff. Mainly focussed on easy stuff he can commentate on from the fringes without getting involved i.e. is it good to claim, should i get an avi, sometimes pointing out potential logical failings/inconsistencies without really getting excited. Frugal with the vote. Awkward jokes. Is TvS on me v Noraa, but not willing to drive an elim on either. he has suspicions, but reasoning is weak for a seemingly smart dude. picks off the LHF but doesnt do anything with it. Doesn't really seem like legit solving as his fundamental opinions don't change. claims to think I'm scum but sheeps me on Ico. No scumhunting passion. Starts with Taylor as an easy target, never diverts and jumps on as 3rd vote when taylor wagon gets momentum.
teacher scum-flip means:
Datisi and Menalque are both town (because he seemed genuinely worried about them townbinning each other)
Ico town - teacher's nominal legit townread
Vote: teacher
might revisit tomorrow if needed
won't vote there today
I think it's super informative. Lots of people who have had opportunity to engage, some have done so, some haven't. but lots of focus there, and lots of data.In post 1927, Iconeum wrote:BM, listen
i don't necesarilly think teacher is town, but i think he is a bad flip because there hasn't been a lot of flow around his slot, if you know what I mean? not a lot of players have defended/pushed there, nor given opinions
noraa/shellyc have been dead hot, and are giving a TON of post-flip information on top of them being good to great flips aside from that
Also, the idea of you corralling around a Noraa flip feels a bit "vanity wagon" when the teacher wagon is the biggest.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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hold up, why would i be the N1?In post 1929, Iconeum wrote:and if you are the N1, i promise i'll push teacher myself and have menal do the same lolShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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precisely, but i already have a good sense of who might be if he flips scum. as noted earlier - mafia is about more than just what is on the surface, it's about looking deeper.In post 1937, Iconeum wrote:
you realize we can't all be scum 'defending' teacher right?In post 1932, Battle Mage wrote:
man all i see from you and others is a lot of bitching and whining in defence of teacher.In post 1930, Iconeum wrote:can you see the sheer amount of fear scum would have if you and menalque were actually working together?
who has done nothing to warrant such a defence.
and isnt even defending himself.
You can see why I might think he is scum being carried?
and i'm not defending teacher per sé, rather pushing the thought that he is a suboptimal flip today for reasons i just statedShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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doesnt everyone agree the day is much more informative now, than if we ended it 20 pages ago?
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i believe that *you* are certain teacher is a good flip, but that doesn't make it so for the rest of usIn post 1943, Battle Mage wrote:precisely, but i already have a good sense of who might be if he flips scum. as noted earlier - mafia is about more than just what is on the surface, it's about looking deeper.
i'd always shoot noraa if i had a gun here
but all the townies who were/are pushing shellyc are gonna be left with little after a teacher flip - unless it literally flip scum
what do you think will happen if teacher flips town?Rawr!
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In post 1944, Battle Mage wrote:doesnt everyone agree the day is much more informative now, than if we ended it 20 pages ago?
yes i think so tooRawr!
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i mean nothing screams "trying to find a consensus" harder than choosing not to vote for ANY of the 3 major wagons.
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wdym?In post 1947, Battle Mage wrote:i mean nothing screams "trying to find a consensus" harder than choosing not to vote for ANY of the 3 major wagons.
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