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[Mizzytastic]

Go is an ancient Chinese boardgame often claimed to be the oldest continually played game. It is known for it's simple rules and massve compexity and is a bit of a passion of mine that might appear a few times in this thread if I'm struggling for ideas. For now I'll just leave you with this quote I love by chess grandmaster Edward Lasker

"While the Baroque rules of chess could only have been created by humans, the rules of go are so elegant, organic, and rigorously logical that if intelligent life forms exist elsewhere in the universe, they almost certainly play go."

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Offical Votecount 2.1

Gamma Emerald (2): Battle Mage, bob3141

[E-4]

Tayl0r Swift (2): JohnnyFarrar, Flavor Leaf

[E-4]

Battle Mage (1): Tayl0r Swift

Not voting (6): osuka, Ydrasse, PookyTheMagicalBear, MiniMegabyte, arachnidsGrip, Gamma Emerald

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 players to achieve an elimination.

Day 2 will end in

(expired on 2020-10-16 14:15:00)

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arachnidsGrip is being prodded.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Shelly is pinging me quite hard atm, and it's not particularly because of the push on ydrasse but more the mild hostility that she seems to be expressing as well as 227 which i saw as a weird distancing from her previous reads to instead just trust what bob says. her entire interactions with pooky and ydrasse feel off, so let's go with a VOTE: shellyc. osuka seems quite genuine here, as does BM, and i have a townlean on pooky for that RQS; null on everyone else atm.

yes its very strange and not like shelly at all - that said, i know shelly is trying to be less agressive and overconfident, so ill give her a pass somewhat because it could be her trying to figure out how to chill out and re-evaluate.

Shelly is pinging me quite hard atm, and it's not particularly because of the push on ydrasse but more the mild hostility that she seems to be expressing as well as 227 which i saw as a

weird distancing from her previous reads to instead just trust what bob says

. her entire interactions with pooky and ydrasse feel off, so let's go with a VOTE: shellyc. osuka seems quite genuine here, as does BM, and i have a townlean on pooky for that RQS; null on everyone else atm.

explain the bold. As i dont see her distancing from her own reads. At most shelly is saying that she trust me when i say that the start of day one is best used to town hunt.

Notice the difference between Taylor and Bob. Both are players who didn’t end up on the Shelly wagon. Bob questions Golden. Taylor picks a side.

Golden then responds to only Bob’s post.

wat.

how is me taking a side scum indicative? Me knowing shelly well enough to read her correctly is town-indicative if anything. thats an easy wagon for scum to hop on.

uh when i flip town, vig plspls shoot flavor leaf. flavor leaf steps in, townleads, and immediately directs pressure away from BM and onto me. FL is probably scum and probably wont get lunched.

[bob3141]

gut says flav is town here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

arachnidsGrip is being prodded.

can we get a prod on Ydrasse as well? I am wondering where my love is :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gut says flav is town here

agree - don't think scum come out D2 firing on all cyclinders like that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ah, this might be why Battle Mage made sure to bring up targets, so he could explain if he was going to be seen later. He might have thought this was a track crumb.

it's a joke, last game i played with BM he fake-claimed tracker and got me lynched at lylo and won the game :3

[Mizzytastic]

arachnidsGrip is being prodded.

can we get a prod on Ydrasse as well? I am wondering where my love is :3

Taking into account night time Ydrasse has not met the requirements for a prod.

Please could you bold stuff like this in future so I don't miss it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but can you prod her anyway I miss her :3

[Ydrasse]

>_>
<_<

i’ll be active in a bit pooky i promise

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Did you have a good night? :3

[Battle Mage]

Shelly is pinging me quite hard atm, and it's not particularly because of the push on ydrasse but more the mild hostility that she seems to be expressing as well as 227 which i saw as a weird distancing from her previous reads to instead just trust what bob says. her entire interactions with pooky and ydrasse feel off, so let's go with a VOTE: shellyc. osuka seems quite genuine here, as does BM, and i have a townlean on pooky for that RQS; null on everyone else atm.

yes its very strange and not like shelly at all - that said, i know shelly is trying to be less agressive and overconfident, so ill give her a pass somewhat because it could be her trying to figure out how to chill out and re-evaluate.

Shelly is pinging me quite hard atm, and it's not particularly because of the push on ydrasse but more the mild hostility that she seems to be expressing as well as 227 which i saw as a

weird distancing from her previous reads to instead just trust what bob says

. her entire interactions with pooky and ydrasse feel off, so let's go with a VOTE: shellyc. osuka seems quite genuine here, as does BM, and i have a townlean on pooky for that RQS; null on everyone else atm.

explain the bold. As i dont see her distancing from her own reads. At most shelly is saying that she trust me when i say that the start of day one is best used to town hunt.

Notice the difference between Taylor and Bob. Both are players who didn’t end up on the Shelly wagon. Bob questions Golden. Taylor picks a side.

Golden then responds to only Bob’s post.

wat.

how is me taking a side scum indicative? Me knowing shelly well enough to read her correctly is town-indicative if anything. thats an easy wagon for scum to hop on.

uh when i flip town, vig plspls shoot flavor leaf. flavor leaf steps in, townleads, and immediately directs pressure away from BM and onto me. FL is probably scum and probably wont get lunched.

by your own logic, assuming i'm town (spoiler: I am), why does Flavor Leaf directing pressure away from 1 town onto another mean he is probably scum?

Alternatively, assuming by your logic that I'm not town, why Vig Flavor Leaf for a potential association to me, rather than just vigging me?

Don't buy it.

[osuka]

How did a mafia person die overnight? Also there is a lot of posts I have to read so imma do that now

I think they probably realized it was hopeless and decided to off themselves.

this is the dumbest thing ive ever heard

why would scum ever nk themselves

[Battle Mage]

gut says flav is town here

agree - don't think scum come out D2 firing on all cyclinders like that

isn't that flavor leaf's gimmick?

[Battle Mage]

How did a mafia person die overnight? Also there is a lot of posts I have to read so imma do that now

I think they probably realized it was hopeless and decided to off themselves.

this is the dumbest thing ive ever heard

why would scum ever nk themselves

geez man, looks like a joke is all

[Battle Mage]

ok but can you prod her anyway I miss her :3

Did you have a good night? :3

I love you man but I hope you're crumbing something here, because it's creeping me out lol

[Battle Mage]

Ah, this might be why Battle Mage made sure to bring up targets, so he could explain if he was going to be seen later. He might have thought this was a track crumb.

it's a joke, last game i played with BM he fake-claimed tracker and got me lynched at lylo and won the game :3

in fairness, i was a mafia tracker, so it was an easy fake-claim

[Battle Mage]

VOTE: BM
way too excited about this PL. perhaps scum seeking to pocket everyone?

haha yes exactly! well except the bit about me being scum. I'd love to pocket everyone!

Also on a serious note - Pooky, you town here?

I'm town homie. you sure you don't want to claim tracker

Ah, this might be why Battle Mage made sure to bring up targets, so he could explain if he was going to be seen later. He might have thought this was a track crumb.

dude if you're gonna make a case on me, can you actually do it? rather than half-assed shading across dozens of posts? I have no idea what you're talking about above, and assume it follows from successive incorrect assumptions you've made earlier, but unless you put together something vaguely coherent and concise, I'm not inclined to work hard to correct you.

It would be helpful if you can do 1 post where you set out the things which make you think I'm scum or town, and then I can respond. Otherwise, just seems like you're railroading the town with no substance, and

no real interest in solving

. Which, curiously, appears to be an argument you've levied yourself against Taylor.

[Battle Mage]

I'd sheep Mith, Chk, Hectic, Isis, Skitter, Alyssa The Lamb, Glork and probably a few others that I'm not remembering off the top of my head.

Mith yes. Glork, Hectic maybe. Alyssa and not BM? Harumph...

[Battle Mage]

By the way, im scum! After a year in rehab, MS moderators finally found it fit to give me scum. I hope i'll have a wondrous experience deceiving all of you, even the ones i like!

I'm always good to quick-elim a Day 1 scumclaim.

VOTE: dongempire

just to flag, my activity may be a bit lower in this game, as i now have a few running concurrently and a busy couple weeks ahead.

let's aim to avoid 100 pages for Day 1 to help a brother out.

^^this, please.

VOTE: dong outright scumclaiming? even scummier than BM townclaiming!

VOTE: dong

up he goes.

was that a hammer? wtf is with people today.

in case it wasnt,

VOTE: BM

im so tempted to join the troll army at this point

I believe this put Dongen to F-1. Golden put the F-2 vote, which is decently anti partnery as that is a momentum swinging vote. Bob voting right after Golden there also gives some town points.

Battle Mage tried making it happen earlier on this page, and Pooky actively slows things down, so Pooky likely town.

Taylor actively picks a different path yet again.

oh i see. you replaced into the slot that claimed scum, and are OMGUSing me because I said I'd happily flip it? glad we've cleared that up and can move on!

[JohnnyFarrar]

So like I'm clearly seeing bitterness here and I don't follow the BM suspicion here as easily as I do the taylor, but BM is there a point to this bitterness? Are you actually accusing Flavor of being scum here or just wrong?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Taylor Swift

[Battle Mage]

So like I'm clearly seeing bitterness here and I don't follow the BM suspicion here as easily as I do the taylor, but BM is there a point to this bitterness? Are you actually accusing Flavor of being scum here or just wrong?

No bitterness man, it's just a bit lame whenever someone is spamming the thread tunnelling you for no reason, but presenting it as if they are scumhunting.

I suppose I'm accusing him of being unclear in terms of the reasons for his suspicions, failing to make an active effort to engage with me, and instead spamming the thread with either propaganda of "BM is scum", or making further hypotheses which rely on the false presumption that I'm scum, all of which are unhelpful and not pro-town.

I think my only previous game with Flavor Leaf he declared he "didn't do Day 1", and then died N1. But he's reputed as a good player. This is not good stuff, so yeah I'm gonna go with possible scum.

I see you hedged your own bets above, so appears you are not averse to elimming me? do tell me why

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I'm not sold on Taylor-scum, but fine flipping her to keep the game moving. At least with taylor, she tunnels me but is perfectly clear that she is doing it baselessly.

[Battle Mage]

VOTE: Taylor Swift

[Battle Mage]

By the way, im scum! After a year in rehab, MS moderators finally found it fit to give me scum. I hope i'll have a wondrous experience deceiving all of you, even the ones i like!

I'm always good to quick-elim a Day 1 scumclaim.

VOTE: dongempire

just to flag, my activity may be a bit lower in this game, as i now have a few running concurrently and a busy couple weeks ahead.

let's aim to avoid 100 pages for Day 1 to help a brother out.

^^this, please.

VOTE: dong outright scumclaiming? even scummier than BM townclaiming!

VOTE: dong

up he goes.

was that a hammer? wtf is with people today.

in case it wasnt,

VOTE: BM

im so tempted to join the troll army at this point

I believe this put Dongen to F-1. Golden put the F-2 vote, which is decently anti partnery as that is a momentum swinging vote. Bob voting right after Golden there also gives some town points.

Battle Mage tried making it happen earlier on this page, and Pooky actively slows things down, so Pooky likely town.

Taylor actively picks a different path yet again.

oh i see. you replaced into the slot that claimed scum, and are OMGUSing me because I said I'd happily flip it? glad we've cleared that up and can move on!

i double-checked, you didn't even replace into that slot, you used to be innocent villager. johnny was the scumclaim slot

[bob3141]

VOTE: taylor swift