Questionable Balcony

[fferyllt]

Guys I am so proud of us! We've already done about 500% better than the Death's Diner dethy did. By the time the traitor was eliminated in that game, the cops were already pretty decimated. We got neither the advantage of a fuckton of masons nor the advantage of even a single bank-it cop result.

[Syryana]

I credit you 500% for remembering Death's Diner had a dethy and analyzing proper strategy accordingly

Blowing the dethy wide open when and how you did literally could not have worked better for us

[fferyllt]

You started the ball rolling with your vote, so the timing was all you.

[Syryana]

Technically Taylor did then for making that scumfuck ass post lmao

[fferyllt]

If I'm dead tomorrow please tell s_s how much I love this post.

Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Night 1]

That was probably intentional.

i can actually see taylor doing that because she's a massive shitposting troll

i find it less likely she does it when she's an actual traitor

y'all need to shut up, I was obviously trying to get Tayl0r to clarify without letting her know what I was looking for.

Okay Tayl0r if it wasn't an accident why did you do it then?

[Syryana]

Yeah that was a pretty damn town post

[fferyllt]

It's a perfect paraphrase of "Stop stomping through my line of questioning with your hobnail boots".

[Tammy]

You guys did a great job!

(I hate my brain sometimes. Felt very good that Taylor was scum until those votes started pouring in then PANIC)

[Syryana]

Well we got 48 hours to figure out who to investigate. Probably closer to 46 now.

If we're keeping it in the masonry I'm shooting ffery.

[fferyllt]

I think we should keep it in the masonry.

Thinking about Cabd's crumbs, I think his loverize is reflexive.

[fferyllt]

I'll target Jake because damn that guy is soooooo scum!

[fferyllt]

Though. Is it bastard if someone gets access to a neighborhood but the occupants aren't told?

I feel like this would be a really unfair design. The dethy clears itself of the traitor and get an invisible eavesdropper instead?

Maybe that's a thing someone would design but I don't think I'm going to worry about it being a possibility.

[Tammy]

I will target syryana then

[Tammy]

It will be funny if it comes back scum and I'm the paranoid one of the group lol

[Syryana]

I'll target Tammy. Ffery's paranoid, I'm insane, Jake's sane, and Tammy's naive.

Calling it now.

[fferyllt]

He does take odd (to me) angles sometimes, Syr.

His unhappiness with how I approached sharing reads lists was so freakin transparent that I have a really hard time seeing that come from scum-Bell.

I think he has concerns that he might not be able to catch scum-Cabd? Maybe I'm misremembering that.

I saw the one liner to you and one liner to himself regarding this in his catchup post. Unless you've got other sources I'm missing I think the bolded is a significant overstatement

I'm not sure how to put this. I do read a lot into the tone of posts, especially by people I have experience with. In a lot of my interactions with Bell-Avenger in FGO I felt like I was being weighed in the balance. And when he thought he'd found something potentially scummy he pounced. I remember his reaction when he thought he'd found a disconnect between my feeling like I might not be in the game all that much longer and my bookmarking posts for future reference so I could find them again after the game ended. There was just so much intensity in his phrasing.

It wasn't suspicion, but I felt a lot of intensity in the phrasing about why my going first to talk about reads was not optimal in terms of reading Cabd via his readslist.

[Syryana]

Hm.

You're gonna have to sell us on Bell town if you want him to not die tomorrow. A lot of people are gunning for his ass and you likely won't be there to sell it. You don't wanna have him join you in dead thread, here's where it starts.

[fferyllt]

I'm not sure I want to save him right now.

Have you reread the thread from page 63 where we outed the dethy through to the end?

I've read through it a couple times tonight trying to figure out how I feel about how people reacted.

Gamma just doing his Mastina-style catchup where he replies to one post after another from several pages back and payed no attention to what was happening in real time kinda bugs me. I'm going to want to see similar behavior as town in situations where a wagon was about to go through

Pooky veeerrrrryyyyy slowly went from "town trolling" to "ok yeah, scum", but didn't change his vote. I'm not sure this was scummy?

midwaybear didn't seem very cool with the wagon at first, and didn't interact directly with Taylor at all.

Diamond was similar. argued with me about whether Tayl0r was more scummy than Jake. And then just kinda popped up and voted once the tipping point had been reached.

I liked how petapan, bulge and s_s interacted with us. bulge didn't really interact with tayl0r, seemed more concerned about determining if the dethy was a real thing and that the other 4 members would be for sure confirmed town, and why Tammy was worried about a second traitor. Buuuut, if he's scum and knew there was a likelihood that the people he was squinting at were going to be confirmed town shortly that seems like an odd direction to push.

I'm really confused by Bell. How proactive was he during the mr toads wild ride phase? Did he seem to be observational and floating along?

Cabd, given it's Cabd with all the footnotes and caveats, looked town as fuck to me.

[fferyllt]

I'm really confused by Bell. How proactive was he during the mr toads wild ride phase? Did he seem to be observational and floating along?

Rereading, I feel like he did go after Tayl0r proactively

[Tammy]

I need to reread how that went down as well.

In the moment i liked how bulge was processing it. I expected more people to. I feel like bulge was a bit skeptical of why I thought there could be a second traitor.

I was shooting daggers at gammas katsina style, and I kinda suspected it. Yes, he catches up from behind, but I think that he also tends to read the current posts while doing that and he felt like he was pretending not to? I’ll have to double check that to see if it’s correct.

I just woke up though! Two full nights of sleep in a row! Hopefully my brain is getting more functional.

I don’t expect to die here tonight. I’m probably the least threatening in here besides Jake. But the off chance they go for the one who doesn’t have their shit together I’ll at least get my thoughts down.

I need to wake up and get a little grading done before I really dig into it though.

Nice test case for psych ward :p

[Syryana]

I'll reread it too but I do know Gamma was paying attention because he asked someone to not hammer til he caught up then Pedited dammit because someone hammered before he asked

He looks scummy as fuck because he still didnt comment on the goings on but continued with his catchup

[fferyllt]

If I'm alive tomorrow the first thing I'm going to ask cabd about is his Gamma read, and hit him with the mastina catchup if he says town.

If I'm dead, please do that for me.

[Tammy]

Is this Cabd not believing it's a dethy?

Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Night 1]

is there reason to believe there might be a traitor and a fullscum in that group, rather than having a 4 person masonry as soon as the dethy resolves? anyone can answer but im maiy asking i guess from a 1) balance pov and 2) WWFGD

>0% chance, highly doubt a giant masonry is gonna go down.

[Tammy]

Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Night 1]

If your neighborhood solves the conundrum mine becomes ridiculously underpowered

Is this where you were thinking the loverizers?

Or do you have a thought on this one?

[Syryana]

I'm on and off rereading myself but I think Cabd and bulge originally assumed when we said dethy that we meant 4 cops and a traitor, not necessarily 4 town cops and a scum traitor

I'd also guess he thinks that having 4 insta mason'd cops is OP, which is true, but that also precludes the dethy being right about the traitor AND successfully playing to get the traitor out before any masons are lost

Granted, 4 mason cops is is pretty holy fuck wtfery level for scum and I cannot imagine they have any higher priority targets right now