Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[LavarManos]

I don't necessarily agree with her reads though.

link to VC on this page

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 2.045
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	None	EL-7	3	2	4	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	None	EL-7	2	3	3	SirCakez
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
LavarManos	None	EL-7	3	3	4	LavarManos
Bingle	PenguinPower, SirCakez, Fun and Games, Nosferatu	EL-3	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Nosferatu
I Keep Siteflaking	None	EL-7	3	3	3	I Keep Siteflaking
PenguinPower	Bingle	EL-6	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	Albert B. Rampage, Noraa, CreativeMod1, JohnnyFarrar, Gamma Emerald	EL-2	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Noraa	I Keep Siteflaking	EL-6	3	3	3	Noraa
JohnnyFarrar	None	EL-7	3	3	3	JohnnyFarrar
Not Voting	LavarManos
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-14 12:10:00)
Notes: None pagetops: Lilith 30 | penguin 15 | ABR 5 | johnnyf 3 | cm1 2 | gamma 2 | fun & games 2 | nosferatu 2 | cakez 2 | gb 1 | bingle 1 | iks 1 | noraa 1 | lavar 1

[PenguinPower]

I don't necessarily agree with her reads though.

What do you disagree with?

[LavarManos]

I thought there was some faulty logic behind the IKS scumread. She seemed to call IKS scum seemingly due to voting a leading wagon near deadline which I don't think is particularly alignment indicative. I think there are probably more examples, but that was one moment that jumped out.

[LavarManos]

Everyone keeps discrediting ABR's reads which is annoying cuz a person that doesn't know how to push reads well doesn't equal scum

And his reads could very much be right whether or not he articulates well

This is also somewhat sketchy logic.

[PenguinPower]

I thought there was some faulty logic behind the IKS scumread. She seemed to call IKS scum seemingly due to voting a leading wagon near deadline which I don't think is particularly alignment indicative. I think there are probably more examples, but that was one moment that jumped out.

Iks wasn’t mentioned in her initial read list though...

[LavarManos]

Ok? The more important thing is that I think she is town, but I just wanted to point that out. Unfortunately, I really can't choose who I would want eliminated between FG and Bingle.

[Noraa]

@Mod are we allowed to request you pause the deadline for a bit longer even tho a replacement has been found considering the huge amount of replacing out and prodges this game?

I would consider extending the deadline if enough players request it.

I think we need to extend the deadline. Considering that I was the first vote on Fun and Games and this wagon is now the largest wagon when I literally repped in so late in the day shows how damn disoriented this town is. I will continue to push this wagon but I think this town is all over the place and we need to get ourselves together before falling flat on our faces in day 2.

I think Noraa is town for her catchup and follow up between 58-60. She seemed like she meant business and was tired of fluff which is a good look considering there was no wagon on her. It seems like out primary wagons are Bingle and Fun and Games. I don't really like either of them at this point, but hopefully reading more into things helps me out.

I don't necessarily agree with her reads though.

so absolutely fence sitty. Ur probscum honestly. Ur predecessor ... like the Chara one not the one before wasn't half as bad.

I thought there was some faulty logic behind the IKS scumread. She seemed to call IKS scum seemingly due to voting a leading wagon near deadline which I don't think is particularly alignment indicative. I think there are probably more examples, but that was one moment that jumped out.

1) who tf is IKS?
2) I can have a scum lean on someone for a small reason like that. What wrong with it? I repped in and gave an overall read whereas u repped in and only *tried* to solve my slot and *solved* it in the most fence sitty way possible.

Everyone keeps discrediting ABR's reads which is annoying cuz a person that doesn't know how to push reads well doesn't equal scum

And his reads could very much be right whether or not he articulates well

This is also somewhat sketchy logic.

care to elaborate instead of being like U-U tHiS iS sKeTcHy lOgIc

[Noraa]

Ok? The more important thing is that I think she is town, but I just wanted to point that out. Unfortunately, I really can't choose who I would want eliminated between FG and Bingle.

if u think im town and we're so close to deadline what's the point in everything else u said?
u rep in and u have one read and its that "Noraa is town but her reads r shit"
wtf

[PenguinPower]

Her read list was p!bad and I don’t see how you think she is town based on it. I asked what reads you disagreed with and you gave a tangential answer. You don’t like either wagon.

Who

do

you want elim’d?

[Noraa]

ABR if u wanna vig this slot, go for it. u have Noraa's full support.

[PenguinPower]

I think we need to extend the deadline. Considering that I was the first vote on Fun and Games and this wagon is now the largest wagon when I literally repped in so late in the day shows how damn disoriented this town is. I will continue to push this wagon but I think this town is all over the place and we need to get ourselves together before falling flat on our faces in day 2.

Lofuckingl if you think stalling for more time is going to help consolidate town. Reeks.

[Noraa]

I think it will help personally

[PenguinPower]

Yeah. I get that. You’re wrong if you didn’t get that.

[LavarManos]

How am I fence sitting? I think you are town, but I don't think the way you read people is particularly reliable.
IKS is I Keep Siteflaking. Scumreading him for voting a leading wagon doesn't seem accurate to me. What is the difference between town and scum voting Bingle in that situation?
About ABR, there is no guarantee that his reads are correct in the first place. Vigging me is a mistake.

[LavarManos]

Her read list was p!bad and I don’t see how you think she is town based on it.

No, it wasn't based on the read list. I just liked the sequence of posts that seemed fed up. That doesn't seem like a scum approach given the lack of pressure there at the time.

[PenguinPower]

She literally made the readslist because she was being called out for doing nothing.

[Noraa]

She literally made the readslist because she was being called out for doing nothing.

No I said I would do it today but due to the deadline, I did it yesterday

[PenguinPower]

I mean - your opinion in this particular matter is invalid so.....

[PenguinPower]

Probably should have waited to craft it better though.

[LavarManos]

She literally made the readslist because she was being called out for doing nothing.

Ok, I'll take a look into that situation then.

[PenguinPower]

Btw...when have you played with town!abr Noraa?

[Noraa]

Btw...when have you played with town!abr Noraa?

I've never played with ABR before

[PenguinPower]

I love a town!ABR.

Weird comment then.

[PenguinPower]

I think I quite prefer Noraa over Bingle at this point.