mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Ban Hydras]

Feel better about Gamma being scum since we're being picked as the designated counterwagon. Also, all the people who're voting us are doing so because "BLOATING THE THREAD" or "HYDRAS BAD" - agree with this one tbh, but yeah reasons are garbage so a few of the votes are probably scum motivated.

~Buttercup

[Almost50]

Okay my role is like, the worst imaginable that could be assigned to jjh927

Funny, my role is, like, the best imaginable that could be assigned to mastina.

Bullet-Proof Godfather??

[Menalque]

but menal, who is sheeping me, is also pretty scummy. HALP!

Do you, like, remember the game that we played together? Where you kept insisting I was scummy and I was town?

[Menalque]

unvote

you could argue that wagon speed likely means they are town. I'm not done with them but we shouldn't be ending the day with 9 days left.

No, no, that’s exactly what we should be doing actually

[Menalque]

Say it with me now: “town winrates are higher when days end earlier”

[Menalque]

There are 57 pages

Ending the day now is fine

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Mena is likely town, and it’s a absolute mirace that this might be a game where we both TR each other.
Sure it’s a paranoia townread from Mena, but that’s quite the improvement.

[Menalque]

Norwee you realise that you TRing me is only making the paranoia stronger, yes?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Omg Mena u so scummy aaaa

[Menalque]

@mastina

What has superbowl done that’s led to your TRing him?

[Bell]

Say it with me now: “town winrates are higher when days end earlier”

Data?

[Menalque]

Echo - town
Mastina
Titus
Nero
Norwee

A50 - townlean
jjh

Pickaxe pete - weak townlean
TGP

MM - nulltown

Samantha -null
Vecna
Christøpher

Bell - nullscum

DS - scumlean
Ban Hydras
April

DrDolittle - scum
Taylor
PlusJOYED
Superbowl
Gamma Emerald

[Menalque]

Say it with me now: “town winrates are higher when days end earlier”

Data?

I’m on my phone and I cbf to find it, ask me again later when I’m on laptop if someone else hasn’t provided it by then

[Menalque]

I think if I get to speak to morning live then I can probably sort that slot

[Menalque]

i also have at least some experience with gamma and dont think that he should be automatically scumbinned based on his posts so far. can someone explain the gamma wagon to me though? i dont understand it beyond "he didnt do much yet". because that describes a lot of people at this stage. like why is gamma scum rather than just a bit slow to get his legs planted? i think theres enough reason for a pressure wagon there but people seem to be out for blood, and to me we are barely out of RVS and i dont understand the rush or why people are so confident scumreading gamma at this point.

If gamma flips scum please god can we flip this next?

[Almost50]

I see this is the coolkid wagon.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
I don't highly scumread Gamma, but they haven't really towntold.

VOTE: Norwee
Opportunistic wagon hop on a likely town + disclaimer = scumtell. Discuss

I have an alternative take.
You're dead on the money on the opportunistic hop-on with the disclaimer being a scum indicator.

My thought is that it is an awkward attempt at forcing a bus on a scumbuddy tho.

Not in my book. The disclaimer is meant to absolve the voter from the consequences of their vote, thus Gamma flipping red is very unlikely.

And your stance here is most questionable because why insist on pushing a "potential scum dependent on Norwee's alignment" (from your PoV) rather than push Norwee whom you should be more confident in your read on (because it;s based on their own behaviour)??

[NorwegianboyEE]

These wagon dynamics point more to Gamma!scum imo, and i’ve noted that earlier.

[Almost50]

OK, that's enough. O would have loved to wait longer, but I can't have the day ending (1) So abruptly, and (b) with a very likely miselimination

I am a Miller Mason

I won't out who else is (we obviously share a PT courtesy of being Masons), but I will point you out to my -rather obvious- crumb at the start if the game.

If you ISO me, you'd find I posted 3 videos in my opening 3 posts. The first one: "I'm a bitch, I'm a lover" is meant to crumb I am something and it's opposite. Bitch/Lover, Child/Mother, Sinner/Saint >>> Miller/Mason

The second video is a song by Steve

Miller

band, and the third is by Dave

Mason

.

Now here's what first caught my attention about Norwee

:

Claim Miller Mason, Daycop, scum. - I sleep
Claim VT - I triggered.

As I saw this I thought to myself "Who the freak thinks of Miller Mason out of the blue?" and given I was (still am) under the impression Scum either picked roles (but not whom they're assigned to)

OR

are heavily informed I deduced there may be a Day Cop in play (thought that might be [redacted] when they [redacted][redacted]). But anyway, that was when I started looking at Norwee more closely.

When Bell asked about the setup, some people ignored it, some questioned it, and some tried to put off the notion Scum had anything to do with roles or knowledge about them:

Titus

was one, but I can see Town!Titus not noticing, so that's probably NAI

PlusJOYED

did it, and in a way that I deemed fake

mastina

did it (albeit in more style as always) and coupled with her weird push on Gamma vs Norwee I am truly and utterly worried she might have rolled scum here

I have other suspects, but this issue doesn't play any part in my reads on them, so let me stop at this.

If forced to provide a scum pool (and not limit myself to a certain number like mastina does) I's bet all scum are in:

Spoiler:

Hah! You thought I'd be giving you a list of whom my brother Masons are not?? Silly you!

[NorwegianboyEE]

As I saw this I thought to myself "Who the freak thinks of Miller Mason

Hectic. Can you explain this meme.

[Bell]

UNVOTE:

[Bell]

Let’s chat(everyone else chat.) it’s 4 am and i’m going to bed.

[Almost50]

Bte, this has just finished. I will lead you directly to my Day One post in which I correctly recognized Penguin was precisely the Scum RB, and I was right. I also spitted the Town Doctor on D1, so my only mistake was suspecting Billy was the Goon over Lost.

I am not saying I am always this precise, but I am showing you that sometimes my "silly little observations" do prove to be spot on.

I would now like to invite all town-aligned players on Gamma's wagon to switch to Norwee ASAP. Please and thank you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ll tell you exactly why i had that clain in mind.
Because Hectic with an secret alt fake claimed exactly that in an earlier game and i insisted they were town but everyone sussed them a lot and it turned into an absolute meme of a game.
The alt was named Truth and the game is:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83755
I had absolutely no idea this game had or you would actually claim Miller Mason so this is entirely an coincidence.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It was this game actually:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83358
But they reference the claim in the other one too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Either way, why would me referencing a role make me scum?
A50 u such a freaking derp.