interesting. i get itIn post 3347, superbowl9 wrote:I will give you an ELI5 because you do seem very confused. Me, A50, and someone else are goliath gouthwits health interns. This is NOT town, it is a 3P which flips and returns investigations as our 3P (GGHI). Our win condition is the same as town’s, we win when all threats to town are eliminated. Thus we are FUNCTIONALLY miller masons, which is why that’s what A50 claimed.In post 3338, MathBlade wrote:Confused.In post 3328, superbowl9 wrote:What makes you think 3P is not likely when we have a 3P scumteam???? None of us are masons. We use masons because it is an easy turn of phrase that has now because confusing. We are 3P with town’s wincon. Titus I can’t speak for but I highly doubt they are masons
3P with town wincon = town plus. You have town wincon plus something else.
Otherwise you’re just town not 3P.
The distinction exists for a reason.
What makes you say a 3P scum team exists? This could be an SK (not a team, jjh top theory if true) multiball or a vig
Like help me connect your dots here
Gamma flipped as a NON town aligned 3P (which he claimed was scum, while also saying there may be multiball. You can look at this as WIFOM if you want). Cop investigation checked against this non-town 3P.
Titus is apparently 3P neighborizer with Nero and mastina who recruited A50. A50 now has access to both PTs and is trying to sort through this whole mess. Do you understand?
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To clarify we (GGHI) are not neighborizers, we are unpowered besides our PT. It’s titus’ group that neighborized 1 of our membersIn post 3342, PlusJOYED wrote:I'd like to work with them, but I need them to share their wincon
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Partially. In my experience I don’t recall just Miller masons. It’s always been Miller masons plus. Stevens Universe IIRC was town win plus one regular town alive.In post 3347, superbowl9 wrote:
I will give you an ELI5 because you do seem very confused. Me, A50, and someone else are goliath gouthwits health interns. This is NOT town, it is a 3P which flips and returns investigations as our 3P (GGHI). Our win condition is the same as town’s, we win when all threats to town are eliminated. Thus we are FUNCTIONALLY miller masons, which is why that’s what A50 claimed.In post 3338, MathBlade wrote:
Confused.In post 3328, superbowl9 wrote:What makes you think 3P is not likely when we have a 3P scumteam???? None of us are masons. We use masons because it is an easy turn of phrase that has now because confusing. We are 3P with town’s wincon. Titus I can’t speak for but I highly doubt they are masons
3P with town wincon = town plus. You have town wincon plus something else.
Otherwise you’re just town not 3P.
The distinction exists for a reason.
What makes you say a 3P scum team exists? This could be an SK (not a team, jjh top theory if true) multiball or a vig
Like help me connect your dots here
Gamma flipped as a NON town aligned 3P (which he claimed was scum, while also saying there may be multiball. You can look at this as WIFOM if you want). Cop investigation checked against this non-town 3P.
Titus is apparently 3P neighborizer with Nero and mastina who recruited A50. A50 now has access to both PTs and is trying to sort through this whole mess. Do you understand?
You say Gamma flipped non town aligned 3P. What makes you say 3P and not scum? I don’t follow this. There was a public cop saying someone is not of Gamma’s alignment. Are you suggesting Gamma was 3P and not scum and therefore no scum are dead?
Then Titus is another 3P?
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GGGI’s story has been consistent the whole time, we are figuring out the Titus thing give us time.In post 3337, PlusJOYED wrote:I would like to revisit the mason thing later. Their story has changed a bit so im confused. Did Titus neighborize someone?
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I can take a break.In post 3351, Titus wrote:I'm logging out so I don't bring out drunk Titus.
Math, can you stop being obtuse or take a break and see what people are doing?
Obtuse is not just an on off switch.
From what it sounds like there’s 6 masons then no masons
Then we’re all 3P
No one is 3P
We have a scum execution but we don’t
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Again i hope you understand that we are not actually miller masons. Titus’ group I am fairly certain claimed 3P similar to us, not town. I might be wrong on that though (@Titus).In post 3353, MathBlade wrote:Partially. In my experience I don’t recall just Miller masons. It’s always been Miller masons plus. Stevens Universe IIRC was town win plus one regular town alive.
You say Gamma flipped non town aligned 3P. What makes you say 3P and not scum? I don’t follow this. There was a public cop saying someone is not of Gamma’s alignment. Are you suggesting Gamma was 3P and not scum and therefore no scum are dead?
Then Titus is another 3P?
That’s an awful lot of 3P claims.
Literally look at the gamma flip. It’s not red but the third party yellow. I’m suggesting we are 100% multiballing to some extent, but that gamma’s faction was definitely “scum” much like we are “town”. Idk if there is a true red scumteam to eliminate, but that sounds like kind of a technicality. Gamma’s wincon was (presumably) not town-friendly- Chemist1422
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My point is that I didn't, chris didIn post 3340, Titus wrote:
I apologize for using he pronouns.In post 3335, Chemist1422 wrote:
you said you wanted to question me about sheeping plusjoy onto BH but you haven't done anything to that endIn post 3333, Titus wrote:@Chemist
Yes. That's what I do for all my VCAs. I copy VCs and replace subs. Why?
that and you using the wrong pronouns clued me in on that so i figured i should bring it up for clarification
I didn't have my notes in front of me. But since you're here, why did you sheep Plusjoy onto BH?
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There are two masonries. Each has 3. Almost50 + superbowl + ?. Then there's Titus, Nero, and mastina.
I neighborized A50.
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YesIn post 3159, Morning Mage wrote:Titus, can you confirm the blood relatives hardclaim from mathblade? lol
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i can relate to this. what the heck is going on.In post 3355, MathBlade wrote:
I can take a break.In post 3351, Titus wrote:I'm logging out so I don't bring out drunk Titus.
Math, can you stop being obtuse or take a break and see what people are doing?
Obtuse is not just an on off switch.
From what it sounds like there’s 6 masons then no masons
Then we’re all 3P
No one is 3P
We have a scum execution but we don’t
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I beg to differ. "confirmed" would be too string for a 50/50 coin flip. She could still be scum who made the correct guess.In post 3152, Titus wrote:
She might get confirmed as townIn post 3143, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Why don't we just eliminate ShellyC. Their slot is very likely scum.
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Yes and yes. This is what I’m saying idk if there are red groups or not or if gamma’s group is the only “scum” group but I do know (or think i know) that gammas group is “scum” to some extentIn post 3359, TheGoldenParadox wrote:so superbowl, your role is a third party yellow? alternatively, every faction that is not town could be yellow.- superbowl9
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I seriously do not believe there’s 6 mason-likes in this game.
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Salutations my fellow players, gonna head to work now
wish I could post while sleeping, I live on the other side of the world...
gonna catch up the 3p things later
I'm quite busy recently so don't expect me to blow up the postcount, this is going to be quite low-effort shelly
didn't read through all of this, just dabbled in ISOs.
a readslist (ordered from towniest to scummiest) for y'all
THE TOWN ZONEmastina - good player apparently? there is engagement, really feels like trying to solve this game with that 7-player list (which other than plus is a good PoE) and constantly evaluating
Menalque - im rather paranoid about them but MM push is very good, overall I think 2737 VIBES with my thoughts
PlusJOYED - I really get the usual town LHF vibes from them, they're re-evaluating and having a solvy tone + mindset imo
SB9 - I think overall their play is similar to large normal 229, I may be pocketed by defense of my slot though, but scum!them can just be opportunistic and hop on the train
Ban Hydras - Tone is very good, I think the bouncing and treating thread as hydra PT is rather town, why does scum hydra need to list reads even in a hydra PT
jjh - ascetic claim backed by mastina, because of claim im willing to give this a pass
EchoVision - hostility towards April is prob out of scum range, generally shows townie emotions, asking people to join their vote and form their preferred wagon
Tayl0r Swift - I kindaaaa actually think this is rather town? being rational about how gamma was a bad push and ban hydras was a bad CW spews town to me
Titus / A50 / Nero are quite meta-town, and generally there's nothing in there that sticks out and pings me
THE NULL ZONE
everyone not listed in scum-land or town-land. I just can't sort you yet.
THE SCUM ZONE
Chemist - gave off ZERO townvibes and pred wanted to policy hydras instead of having a scumhunting mindset.
April Ludgate - this is FL alt. I find menal and mastina pushes reeeeally weird and their push on me alongside MM could be partnership. Claim was... passable but I'm reluctant to give them a townpass for it having seen the pitfalls of PR worship
DrDolittle - no solving mindset nor effort, coasting along, matches scum meta ("let this town eat itself" was one of their posts in scum PT in our scumgame)
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MM - twilight play = close to scumclaim, all-round scumbucket, attempted deflect onto me. nuke this slot now.
Bell -it's being lazy, it's being cautious, it's low efforting, it's shitposting about setup spec.I know town!bell, this isn't town!bell.
For some reason they keep casually scumclaiming which is explicitly *NOT* in their towngame. not at all.
Bell obviously low efforts at gamestart, and says its because they're in many games. a busy town makes naked votes and not fully developed reads with their limited time. A busy scum use it as an excuse for lurking.
when mastina starts SR on them they literally respond with a "BoP" vote on mastina, and saying that mastina's trajectory is artificial without a single bit of explanation. then when mastina starts townreading them they TR mastina back???? and shift to leading wagon gamma. this is not a real trajectory at all and is shifting reads to fit the situation.
SR on nerocain unexplained, without a vote, while still subtly encouraging the gamma wagon. One of the most common scumtells is scum will make SRs, but town want other town to vote their SRs, and I just don't see that from bell.
@Mastina I've got no clue how you can see the "content" from bell, I think its reasonable to assume pressured scum would conjure up some content.
Bell is even more of a scumbucket than Morning. nuke this as well.
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