Death Curse

[Bell]

Hi.
It’s 1 am. And I really need to sleep because when i’m Depressed I have a lot of trouble sleeping.
It sucks.
I look forward to tossing and turning for 4 or 5 hours tonight.

...sigh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD has several scummy posts
but some towny posts too
she's back to eh now

Your inability to read me is tilting me off the face of the earth.

I don't even know what meta bullshit game you are referencing to get this weird "tell" on me that wouldn;'t work even if I WAS SCUM (you moron)

but let me make this fucking really simple for you.

I'm going to die this game you fucking dummy. There's a 0 percent chance I live to endgame.

Fuck's sakes, like. How are you this dense?

Or is it this was a distraction or something?

IDFK

[Lady Lambdadelta]

WELL YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST SAID HI BACK. YOU’RE SCUM REGARDLESS OF YOUTR ROLE PM. WHAT KIND OF CANADIAN EVEN ARE YOU!?

I...

what part of my play as berserker made you think I at all fit the "nice polite unassuming" canadian stereotype.

I'm a fiery bitch.

[Isis]

LLD, please don't be toxic.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD has several scummy posts
but some towny posts too
she's back to eh now

Actually what are my scummy posts and why are they scummy.

[Lapsa]

Frankly speaking - this game's a garbage so far.

To an extent of people openly claiming scum and getting away with that.

[Fidget]

No way Bell or Lady are scum

why is bell even town

I generally find players who start to tilt under pressure towny.

pedit: Oohhhh. Hi Berserker.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

LLD cmon dont be so mean :/ that's super unfun.

[shellyc]

I generally find players who start to tilt under pressure towny.

so you think flailing is a towntell

thats impressive fidget

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, please don't be toxic.

You just claimed scum to try and kill me for exactly no good reason.

that's the toxic thing here. I'm allowed to be a little on tilt.

[Bell]

Bell, the problem is that most of the content of yours I see is stuff that seems more or less weak-meta and talking about the value or lack of value of leashing the votes. The few posts that give me a window into how you yourself think and react, your internal narrative, they're things about /you/, and not about the /game/.

Go ahead and scumread me for that. Don't really care: I can't see it. I do not play the same as a normal player, what I look for is not stuff normal people look for, because I am fundamentally incapable of spotting normal tells. So I can't parse your ISO in an AI way. And I /did/ just try.

I'm content to give you space for now because I am more concerned about a different player, but there''s really no getting around sorting you eventually, and it sucks that I don't have a /non-shitty/ way to do that. If you get any ideas, let me know, because I do want to make sure I'm not giving you a bunch of shit at a vulnerable time, but there /is/ a game and if it comes down to me with the final scroll passing and you're in the mix of possibles, I'll /need/ to know how to read you. That's not a demand for ideas, just a... you know, if inspiration strikes.

Thanks wall person. I’m fairly easy to sort. But i’m not sure how true that will be this game. Do your best.

Good night all.

[shellyc]

@LLD do you actually SR isis or are you just frustrated with their play

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD cmon dont be so mean :/ that's super unfun.

I'll go calm down or something. I guess.

I feel entitled to be tilted about that. Can I at least get some fucking acceptance that this is an adequate thing to be tilted about

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea but that was only because she thinks so highly of your scumplay that she decided to do that desperate gambit.

She didn't like insult you or anything.

You can do better than this pls.

[Isis]

Okay, time to bury you. Here is where you made your mistake, calling this "discrediting". (Another buzzword, btw.)

One second.

This felt inductive to me.

I have a brain in here too, and I've been calculating and considering how we act and how scum win this game from the minute I got my green pm.

This seemed lamisty to me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like she's literally saying she thinks you're so amazing at scum and would wreck the town so hard that she decided to try to suicide herself to try to get you so that you couldn't do massive damage and crush the town completely.

Like that's not her insulting you at alll.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD do you actually SR isis or are you just frustrated with their play

I haven't said anything about SRing Isis.

I have no real strong read on Isis, especially less now that I apparently know who the fuck they are and need to re-evaluate my whole position on them.

Meta might be trash, but the fact they KNEW ME means they were playing around me differently than I expected which requires a re-read.

and now I need to do that TWICE, since Bell knows me too.

So I have no strong read on Isis. I'm just tilted about someone claiming scum to try and kill me when I'm town.

zzzz

[Fidget]

I generally find players who start to tilt under pressure towny.

so you think flailing is a towntell

thats impressive fidget

You misread me, I said tilting, not flailing. Tilting is more emotional and irrational.

Noraa was flailing earlier. It's like going into a death spiral when you're caught. I don't know how to explain it. It's different from just getting upset like Bell/LLD are.

For example, when you get tilted, you might say things that you'll regret. This makes much more sense from town who feels justified in what they're saying, than it would for scum who is just desperately trying to grasp for straws in order to win a game. Now it's not impossible for scum to get upset, but funnily enough the only time I ever really saw it was in multiball. Where they felt justified.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Okay, time to bury you. Here is where you made your mistake, calling this "discrediting". (Another buzzword, btw.)

One second.

This felt inductive to me.

I have a brain in here too, and I've been calculating and considering how we act and how scum win this game from the minute I got my green pm.

This seemed lamisty to me.

Inductive in what way? I immediately after that went and grabbed actual quote evidence to follow up. It's the exact opposite of inductive.

LAMIST in what way? joking that I'm not usually a mechanical player who actually took some time to tryhard with mechanics in this game

which I then proved a second time when I came up with the best strategy for town in this game?

Like...

These are some extremely weak reads to be calling me scum from. What's my motivation in these posts, intent wise?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

like she's literally saying she thinks you're so amazing at scum and would wreck the town so hard that she decided to try to suicide herself to try to get you so that you couldn't do massive damage and crush the town completely.

Like that's not her insulting you at alll.

It's not that I'm insulted by a player being threatened by me it's that I'm literally already playing so high profile I'm going to die no matter what and someone decided they were gonna claim scum to kill me on day one and undo all the work I did trying to kill a scum!noraa.

I just.

It's frustrating. Isis is playing in a super frustrating way. Their read on me is super frustrating and their behaviour is tiling, compliment or not.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Sidebar: when you have the chance, Isis, I'd still personally appreciate an /actual case/ against me.

I think I am starting to get enough information to sort you, but I need more than n of 1 to work with.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea ok but there's no reason to insult her for it. That's just mean =/

She obviously thinks you are very good - otherwise she wouldn't do the whole suicide-gambit.

The real question is more like - was it like for real or just scum-theater?

[Isis]

It seemed stretchy to call discrediting a buzzword. I kind of could have picked a lot of different anti-noraa posts, but they generally felt like looking for additional little reasons to scum read her beyond what's natural where I would expect a townie to harken back to stronger core reasons. I think inductive was perhaps the wrong word.
The second one is LAMISTY because you mention getting

green

role PM, and that being the brainstorming moment. I speculate you thought about the setup a little bit before getting your role PM and a lot more after getting it, but to look town you want to be slightly incorrect and emphasize that resurgence in interest upon joining the town.

I called you nullscum. You don't have to think they're amazing.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

anyway i'm gonna go sleep

somebody keep an eye on Isis and don't let her steal that death-scroll thing. she's got sticky fingers.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

yea ok but there's no reason to insult her for it. That's just mean =/

She obviously thinks you are very good - otherwise she wouldn't do the whole suicide-gambit.

The real question is more like - was it like for real or just scum-theater?

I don't fuckin' know Pooky.

They need to die for claiming scum at some point no matter what. It's not something you can just do and get away with alive.

I just don't know. Part of me is like "anyone who is willing to do that in a game where you'd basically be trading 1 for 1 with me which people know I am generally willing to do if I think you are scum, especially when I'd get a chance to make it 2 for 1."

Like that's bad play for scum if the gambit is accepted for sure.

The question is like... did they know the gambit would be rejected? Hard to say, given the only way they can back off from their claim is for me to have not recognized them, which they might have been able to key into but thats hard to say for sure?

It's a hard situaiton. My gut leans "probably town, but needs to die the death anyway".