Death Curse

[Hopkirk]

Hopkirk, how easily would you say you find it to try hard or have high WIM as scum?

I haven't rolled scum in 2.5 years (twenty something game streak whoo) in a forum game, and my entire approach to mafia changed in the last year or so (much more jokey being notable, but also a lot of other things). I could say how scum-Hop used to play, but can't give a meaningful answer to this because I don't know myself.

Currently whenever I get a role pm think 'I hope it's town', whereas I used to like playing as scum a little more than town.

[Hopkirk]

What's WIM?

[Bell]

WIM = want it more.
The desire to win and the dedication to pursue that goal.

I prefer to think of it as a keyboard warrior that wins by outlasting everybody else.

[Lapsa]

WIM = want it more.
The desire to win and the dedication to pursue that goal.

I prefer to think of it as a keyboard warrior that wins by outlasting everybody else.

[Hopkirk]

Probably only about 18-20 town in a row on site then ~3 offsite in the same timeframe.
I feel like motivating myself to keep playing as scum would drop off as the game went on, but you saw the same thing happen in the game we just finished with town Hop so idk. Relatively heavy posting that gradually dropped off as I became happy with my POE.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Congratulations, Vax. You're my new favoritest hobby. I'll do my ISO dive tonight.

[Hopkirk]

Or Panda could just shoot Vax.

[MURDERCAT]

I am hoping that panda shoots me or vax

[MUSHSHAGANA]

That's a possibility, but eyeballing lists, I think that only happens if Toog personally has a high grade scumping coming off of Vax. Feels more likely I'll get a shot at finishing my dive, I think I know roughly where the scroll's going to land.

[Hopkirk]

Same tbh.

[Hopkirk]

Same tbh.

Was at MURDERCAT

Vax has gone up in my list since yesterday/day before.

[Bell]

Why do you think adorable is town?

[Hopkirk]

Vax & Fidget have the greatest disparity in 'how people I like read them' vs 'how people I don't like read them'. The only person I don't like who put Vax on their list was Bell with a 5. I'm assuming town-Panda would be removing his scumreads from the weighting or giving them a greater weighting.

[Bell]

Lot of your list doesn’t make sense to me actually. I don’t wanna give you too much work but a concise summary for each read would be nice.

[Hopkirk]

If we are not doing Noraa first then I would lean more on Unowen is scum which was mentioned earlier. And also I wanted to add on #101 what Theta said are my thoughts exactly. On #680 it looked like Isis also had the same thoughts as me and Theta which makes me think Isis is also probably town with Theta. On #708 Unowen said Isis is suspicious and I would have assumed town Unowen would have picked up on what Theta was saying on #101 and would have also assumed Isis also picked up on this too and would have leaned town on Isis. This makes me think scum did not know town were asked to confirm that scum had daytalk.

I also saw somewhere that doing this t>s>t is bad and I'm assuming town would have to pass the scroll to a town read if the first scroll is handed to a town player.

I saw on Noraa's recent reads list she put me as newbtown and I find this strange she still leaves her vote on me.

@Theta You never responded to #1658 and your theory looks really weird. shelly said on #347 Noraa hates bussing.

I was going to ask why this is town but the genuine optimism is heartwarming.

Because these are genuine. She's also either got good reads or is sheeping me to pocket me.

[Bell]

Right?
I noticed that in regards to fidget they kind of stick out in that list of toogs.

But at the same time I disappointed fidget and that disappoints me.
You noticed a pattern but I guess probably, it just means something else,

[Hopkirk]

Lot of your list doesn’t make sense to me actually. I don’t wanna give you too much work but a concise summary for each read would be nice.

I can go into it a little more after work.
Either say which reads don't make sense or which ones do. No point going over stuff like Cat/Mush

My reads are largely a POE, accepting I'm townread at least one scum.

[MURDERCAT]

accepting I'm townreading at least one scum

This is a sign of weakness

[Bell]

Given scum’s one job is to get you to town read them I’d expect more in’ that. Or maybe not.

I guess everyone that isn’t obvious town.

[Hopkirk]

Given scum’s one job is to get you to town read them I’d expect more in’ that. Or maybe not.

I guess everyone that isn’t obvious town.

Obvtown is what, Lady/MURDERCAT/Mush/Shelly/Taylor/Me?

[Hopkirk]

So what you're asking is for me to explain my read on these 6?

Pooky
Shelly
Noraa
Zdenek
Adorable
Theta

[Bell]

Shelly.taylor out of that list, but the rest are fine.

[Bell]

Yup. Your argument for town Taylor is just....
Bleugh,

And forget mentioning, zedenek we talked about that.

[Hopkirk]

So

Pooky
Taylor
Noraa

Adorable

Theta

[Toogeloo]

I'm just going to move on without Theta and LLD's contribution.

58 - UNOwen [9]
47 - shellyc [8]
45 - PookyTheMagicalBear [7]
43 - Noraa [8]
32 - Lapsa [10]
25 - Tayl0r Swift [4]
24 - Vaxkiller [6]
19 - Bell [4]
19 - Fidget [3]
18 - Hopkirk [3]
11 - Zdenek [4]
06 - Titus [2]
05 - Adorable [2]
04 - Theta Alpine [3]
04 - Flea The Magician [2]
00 - MURDERCAT [0]
00 - MUSHSHAGANA [0]
00 - Gloria Cleary [0]
00 - Lady Lambdadelta [0]