Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

In none of my scumgames do I post several hundred times rapidly and several times over the course of each day -- that is a very distinct difference as well

I'm off my scum meta. You're off your scum meta. Krazy is off his scum meta. Prism is off their scum meta.

The meta you are claiming is basically "I don't let my team lose". That is not entirely in your control. You would have lost if you tried to shift the Elements elim !! I do not care if that's what you normally do, you wouldn't have won doing that.

The meta I'm claiming is that I am a very aggressive scum player who is pretty good at controlling game-flow and I wouldn't let it get to the point where a scum is the only viable wagon on the table.

[Morning Tweet]

wanna talk about how long I spent trying to show you it wasn't Hectic? I bet it was stronger than your "scum doesn't kill catboi if they have redtea" point -- which I admit was fine but not enough to make me change my mind really. I give the credit more to Prism and Krazy himself for my shift of read on that slot.

At least I came to the right conclusion eventually -- Hectic is crying out for your blood in his grave right now

What right conclusion are you talking about?

first when I locktowned Krazy from his Tanner interactions, and second today when I went all in on u over Krazy being my choice

I swapped back to Krazy with my fight because I figured we were doing Krazy/Pooky so the order didn't matter, Ali was being stubborn, and i don't have the confidence to push my own reads 100%, I was more 80-90% on you. It was abundantly clear i never put Krazy before you, though.

In none of my scumgames do I post several hundred times rapidly and several times over the course of each day -- that is a very distinct difference as well

I'm off my scum meta. You're off your scum meta. Krazy is off his scum meta. Prism is off their scum meta.

The meta you are claiming is basically "I don't let my team lose". That is not entirely in your control. You would have lost if you tried to shift the Elements elim !! I do not care if that's what you normally do, you wouldn't have won doing that.

The meta I'm claiming is that I am a very aggressive scum player who is pretty good at controlling game-flow and I wouldn't let it get to the point where a scum is the only viable wagon on the table.

im certain you are and i heard about the one mini that finished recently where you did just that

someone is off their meta though

And your meta isn't infallible because you are, strong player or not, still 1/13th of the game and 1/3rd of your team. If a partner of yours doesn't show up, you

cannot do anything to change that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

all scumreads are relative. It doesn't matter if elements shows up or not - I just need to destroy someone worse than he's being destroyed.

[Morning Tweet]

Who would you have chosen?

[Morning Tweet]

also -- keep in mind you are just one bear. I will note that Elements had eeee maybe 2/3rds of the thread sussing him?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I probably would've gotten puppy spared or a town player spared.

If I absolutely have to go for a yeet I'd probly destroy redtea.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

elements never got above like 3-4 votes before the final days when every1 was scrambling as far as I remember - if I was scum I never let it get that far.

[Morning Tweet]

I probably would've gotten puppy spared or a town player spared.

If I absolutely have to go for a yeet I'd probly destroy redtea.

This is the heart of our disagreement I think

I don't care if you're the god of mafia reincarnated as a cute little stuffed bear, spares were never going to happen. You also tried hard as shit to get us to spare, remember? Tanner was one of the main people arguing against you. So did catboi. I threw in some of my own grievances with it too but I specifically remember it felt like beating a dead horse so I had to stop myself. That is just how hard spares were opposed.

It took like forever but eventually you had to concede the point that spares were worse than fights after it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, but you still wanted to do them anyway.

No, you needed a fight counterwagon. Puppy went for that and failed, though -- Hectic was the closest person to even remotely resemable a viable counterwagon, and that went nowhere.

[Morning Tweet]

If I absolutely have to go for a yeet I'd probly destroy redtea.

forgot to even read to this line

You should have done this yeah. I do not remember how hostile/friendly the thread climate was to redtea beyond that they obviously were a less favourable elim to Ele -- but yes, you could have gone for them. If you or Ele died down the line though, it would reflect poorly on you for sure. And one of you needed to not die since Puppy was out.

But yea, i think that if you were playing to your scum meta in the way you describe, this is probably what you should've done, even if it's probably inoptimal since you or Ele flipping hurts the other

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea exactly cuz I'm town.

if I'm scum I would've gotten it done

[Morning Tweet]

elements never got above like 3-4 votes before the final days when every1 was scrambling as far as I remember - if I was scum I never let it get that far.

how

Also while yes Elements hovered around 3-4, you have to remember no one else had wagons that came close to the size/duration/seriousness of his. And some people were holding off from him but still had him close to the bottom of their reads (i can at least remember that being true for myself)

[Morning Tweet]

yea exactly cuz I'm town.

if I'm scum I would've gotten it done :)

if im scum my heart would be pounding out of my chest rn and i'd be under severe stress, taking centuries to post and I probably couldnt even bear(haha) to open the thread at this point

instead im just more amped up than anything

We can make claims all day but one of us here is lying clearly and they're clearly pretty good at scum --

not it!

[Morning Tweet]

I didn't actually finish trig yet, I shouldn't be here right now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

*flops ears*

do your homework then :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Also while yes Elements hovered around 3-4, you have to remember no one else had wagons that came close to the size/duration/seriousness of his. And some people were holding off from him but still had him close to the bottom of their reads (i can at least remember that being true for myself)

yup and that would never happen if I was scum :3

[Morning Tweet]

Also while yes Elements hovered around 3-4, you have to remember no one else had wagons that came close to the size/duration/seriousness of his. And some people were holding off from him but still had him close to the bottom of their reads (i can at least remember that being true for myself)

yup and that would never happen if I was scum :3

all i hear is "if i were scum, i wouldn't be SITTIN here, discussing it with ya now would i"

[Morning Tweet]

*flops ears*

do your homework then :3

grumble grumble

okay..

[Lavender]

I-
I don't even

This is top insanity!

oh you're feeling the craziness of this game too now? welcome !!

Well I always feel more crazy when I'm half-asleep eheh~~

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Whatcha thinking Lav-Lav? (◕‿◕)

[Morning Tweet]

don't fall for the bear's tricks a second time !

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Tweetie! are you done with your homework!?

*Flops Ears*

[Noraa]

*sigh* I'll catch up tmrw

[Noraa]

like, i dunno. i think i agree if you compare prism and morning tweet, prism is like, less likely to flip scum. sure. yes. agreed.

but like i don't think it's either of them?

arguably you could say i don't think it's any of the big four. which is true. this game is pain.

also like, i have a some sorta rule. remember how i was saying i'd never vote s_s in 960, despite not having a strong townread on him? because lilith, who is very good at reading him, locktowned him then flipped town. and like, i know my reads aren't great. and i think there's value in listening to those who are smarter than us. and like. hectic is good at reading tweet. he locktowned her. he flipped town. you see where i'm going with this?

and the krazy thing is like. heavily unfortunate. i didn't think he's scum prior either, though...

can you refer to my slot as "Noraa" not "prism"
I eeeeexist >:(

can we then burn tweet and ducky? asking for a friend

I'd like to go this route but I have super conflicting feelings about everyone rn :/

[Noraa]

I'm caught up. Idk who is scum. All three of u look suspicious and idk :/

[Tanner]

noraa, i'm trying to remind myself of how towny prism was so that i don't impulsively yeet you across the room *upside down smile emoji*

give me like literally anything of how much of this game you've read and why you're suspicious of people