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[Flavor Leaf]

@Taylor - I wasn't in that game Day 1 either.

[Infinity 324]

1463 is a townpost. I think taylor is town from the last few pages, she seems earnest and not pushing an agenda.

this also seems very random. like im not sure why infinity chooses this moment express a townread of me. if im making a good faith push on infinity that infinity isnt disagreeing with, what does that mean for infinity's alignment?

No it’s a garbage push because it’s based on meta from 2 games. But I’ve tried to make those pushes before too so

Also I chose this time because that’s when the read developed “last few pages”

[Tayl0r Swift]

1463 is a townpost. I think taylor is town from the last few pages, she seems earnest and not pushing an agenda.

this also seems very random. like im not sure why infinity chooses this moment express a townread of me. if im making a good faith push on infinity that infinity isnt disagreeing with, what does that mean for infinity's alignment?

No it’s a garbage push because it’s based on meta from 2 games. But I’ve tried to make those pushes before too so

Also I chose this time because that’s when the read developed “last few pages”

what did you notice in the last few pages that was different?

[Tayl0r Swift]

has anyone noticed that koba pops in and out at odd times? theyre always around when theres pressure on, but often not here when attention is elsewhere.

[Flavor Leaf]

it's because they're scum, but people don't wanna believe me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

id go for koba today.

[Infinity 324]

what did you notice in the last few pages that was different?

You’ve been engaging people and pressuring who you think is scum. Honestly I hadn’t seen much scumhunting from you until the last few pages, mostly just saying reads.

[DkKoba]

has anyone noticed that koba pops in and out at odd times? theyre always around when theres pressure on, but often not here when attention is elsewhere.

????????

[DkKoba]

andres where do you think scum is.

you seem to be content to allow the game stay mostly out of your control

I think of myself as most effective when I’m not completely driving all the conversations, unless there’s a massive vacuum. There’s enough slots probing and analyzing that I don’t think I need to pursue every angle. And besides, I am reasonably okay at sorting Town. I know from experience I am not particularly good at nailing Scum early. So I also like to find players I can trust and see if I can sort the game by comparing notes.

love when ppl play entitled like this to obscure their alignment when attention isnt on them <3 . <3

[Flavor Leaf]

beeeeeeeeeeeeeetle juice

[Infinity 324]

andres where do you think scum is.

you seem to be content to allow the game stay mostly out of your control

I think of myself as most effective when I’m not completely driving all the conversations, unless there’s a massive vacuum. There’s enough slots probing and analyzing that I don’t think I need to pursue every angle. And besides, I am reasonably okay at sorting Town. I know from experience I am not particularly good at nailing Scum early. So I also like to find players I can trust and see if I can sort the game by comparing notes.

What do you do when too many people look town, and there’s no one you can easily engage with?

[Tayl0r Swift]

beeeeeeeeeeeeeetle juice

love it. call out koba for betelgeuse and they show up within minutes to question it.

[DkKoba]

it's because they're scum, but people don't wanna believe me.

Where did this read come from?

[Tayl0r Swift]

what did you notice in the last few pages that was different?

You’ve been engaging people and pressuring who you think is scum. Honestly I hadn’t seen much scumhunting from you until the last few pages, mostly just saying reads.

yes we've moved out of the early game now. early game bad.

[Tayl0r Swift]

what did you notice in the last few pages that was different?

You’ve been engaging people and pressuring who you think is scum. Honestly I hadn’t seen much scumhunting from you until the last few pages, mostly just saying reads.

yes we've moved out of the early game now. early game bad.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Andres dropped a few pegs for me definitely because he took my him hard town reading me way too seriously.

@Taylor - Yeah, funny stuff

[DkKoba]

what did you notice in the last few pages that was different?

You’ve been engaging people and pressuring who you think is scum. Honestly I hadn’t seen much scumhunting from you until the last few pages, mostly just saying reads.

Are you coaching them in scum chat rn?

[Infinity 324]

I think Andres dropped a few pegs for me definitely because he took my him hard town reading me way too seriously.

@Taylor - Yeah, funny stuff

He seems to just have a serious personality though?

[Andresvmb]

Anyway @Koba that doesn’t answer your question. I have {Infinity, geraintm} as Lean Scum, but I also have skepticism towards {VPB, Flavor}. I would clear VPB most of the time with a Scum flip from geraintm. I would argue that Flavor has not made any aggressive pushes to the point where I would immediately TR them if someone flipped a certain way just yet. Part of my skepticism has to do with the way VPB and Flavor have discussed my slot. With VPB though, I have expressed consistent caution the opposite way, so I can understand it (and so I’m really just trying to be careful here). Flavor struck me as a little different. It’s also annoying that they keep insisting that I have them as a top TR, but that’s play-style and NAI.

I would be surprised to see {Tayl0r, Marky Mark, JV} flip Scum. Marky Mark maybe less so. Mark is obstinate and seems like he’s genuine in his approach, but I will say that a talented Scum can certainly hide behind what he’s doing. I also don’t think Mafia can be purely solved logically or analytically, so only pursuing inconsistencies or illogical statements won’t always cut it.

I also have a reason to TR Gamma. I am not going to state it explicitly (since we’re not allowed to speculate on anybody’s departure from the game). That’s kind of where I am.

[Flavor Leaf]

Spoiler:

hi flavor give me a good reason not to yeet u bc im like 95% sure ur slot is scum

probably scum trying to dictate the gamestate here on first glance ^

I haven't read the game.

read my last few posts and guess.

right, you're probably scum too

Is there a chance scumJV would say that and add a scum member into that list? If we're living in that world, that's 2 caught scum.

Also, that's a possible traitor crumb

jackson is town. i certainly am not going out of my way to defend them. but we should not elim jackson imo

this post gives me mixed signals.

oh no, Gamma is Shelly slot. That makes it worse because Gamma was protecting DkKoba. haha

kinda wanna go back to my Koba/Gamma with JV traitor solve.

[DkKoba]

ok im not getting limmed so look elsewhere

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s also annoying that they keep insisting that I have them as a top TR,

it just really touched me

[Andresvmb]

andres where do you think scum is.

you seem to be content to allow the game stay mostly out of your control

I think of myself as most effective when I’m not completely driving all the conversations, unless there’s a massive vacuum. There’s enough slots probing and analyzing that I don’t think I need to pursue every angle. And besides, I am reasonably okay at sorting Town. I know from experience I am not particularly good at nailing Scum early. So I also like to find players I can trust and see if I can sort the game by comparing notes.

What do you do when too many people look town, and there’s no one you can easily engage with?

If I’m TR’ing too many people, I begin questioning my strong TR’s first. It probably means I have the game upside down.

[Andresvmb]

andres where do you think scum is.

you seem to be content to allow the game stay mostly out of your control

I think of myself as most effective when I’m not completely driving all the conversations, unless there’s a massive vacuum. There’s enough slots probing and analyzing that I don’t think I need to pursue every angle. And besides, I am reasonably okay at sorting Town. I know from experience I am not particularly good at nailing Scum early. So I also like to find players I can trust and see if I can sort the game by comparing notes.

love when ppl play entitled like this to obscure their alignment when attention isnt on them <3 . <3

I’m not trying to obscure my alignment what. And how is it entitlement?! I’m saying that I know I make a lot of mistakes. So I’m careful about not being overly aggressive unless I have some degree of certainty or there’s something obvious happening.

[Andresvmb]

I think Andres dropped a few pegs for me definitely because he took my him hard town reading me way too seriously.

@Taylor - Yeah, funny stuff

Sure. Now that I’ve expressed some skepticism your way I dropped a few pegs?