Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

Alisae · Post Post #5100 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:55 pm

This isn't the first time it happened

midwaybear · Post Post #5101 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:56 pm

Really?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5102 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:58 pm

In post 5096, midwaybear wrote:Oh yeah Pooky claimed to doc Alisae

do not let mwb pretend he forgot he shot alisae

midwaybear · Post Post #5103 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:59 pm

My own plan is more solid from my own perspective, but I realize that I don't have much influence here.

Tammy · Post Post #5104 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:03 pm

Don't know why alisae is doing the busy work of what endgames look to be a disaster.

Tammy · Post Post #5105 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:07 pm

In post 5065, Alisae wrote:Tammy, how do you justify Pooky's play during this day phase if he's scum.
I think what scum!Pooky wants to do is kill me no?
He could kill Peta and then he gets to 1v1 Midway, a 1v1 which he is VERY prepared to do.

I don't think him hard defending me and even offering himself up makes sense as scum and I don't see how he wins if we even do get a midway flip.
If he kills me he has to 1v1 Peta and I'm not sure how F3 with You Peta and Pooky plays out. I think you'll more likely kill Pooky in this F3?
If he kills you he just dies. He has to keep you alive and you are by far the best townie to keep alive not because of you're IC status but also the fact that you're in the top 90% of scumhunters on site.
If he kills Peta he certainly does not win the 1v1 against me.

I'm not really thinking about this right now. Getting ready to head to bed as I'm in zoom meetings all day tomorrow.

Thing is though I have two innocent results. So you're asking me to go against the results I have when I don't really trust the people I don't have results on.

Tammy · Post Post #5106 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:07 pm

I don't understand why Nahdia died though.

midwaybear · Post Post #5107 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:12 pm

It makes peta look somewhat bad, but could have been done with that intention. I will admit that I am much more open to considering town Pooky, but I am wondering how his doc claim fits into the setup.
Suicide bomber supposedly resolves before his doc, but I don't think that is necessarily fun towards the scumteam that they have to sacrifice a member to kill a cop/mason. And then there's the whole follow the cop that can apparently happen like it is happening here. If Pooky is really doc, I probably believe that there is a godfather.

petapan · Post Post #5108 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:17 pm

Tammy wrote:I'm not really thinking about this right now. Getting ready to head to bed as I'm in zoom meetings all day tomorrow.

Thing is though I have two innocent results. So you're asking me to go against the results I have when I don't really trust the people I don't have results on.

think it's fine to say to flip pooky and if he's real we know his save is as well.

In post 5106, Tammy wrote:I don't understand why Nahdia died though.

i know you've heard this enough from me, but i never ever make that kill. when i make kills it goes toward shaping the endgame i want. i'm not shooting the two most afk players remaining in the game.

midwaybear · Post Post #5109 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:17 am

pooky and alisae probably aren't godfather right?

Tammy · Post Post #5110 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:25 pm

Thing is theoretically Alisae and Pooky could be scum together. Yeah, I know well then why'd they out that they weren't lovers yesterday if they were scum together. I don't know. What I do know is that Alisae was resistant to no elim'ing yesterday so that I could try to get another investigation going into five players left. If they were scum together and if they were able to get a miselim yesterday they would have won.

And now Alisae wants us to no elim today to try to get an investigation and if they're scum tougher they only need the night kill.

I'm sure I'll hear a mouthful from the WHAT KIND OF SENSE DOES THAT MAKE WHAT ROAD TO VICTORY DO WE HAVE OUTING OURSELVES INSTEAD OF STAYING HIDDEN brigade

blah blah blah.

also midway the plan^tm was based on the idea that pooky died and you came back green. Then if one of you were godfathers, the three clears go into final three together and figure it out. but nahdia died last night which is weird.

Alisae · Post Post #5111 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:30 pm

for teh record I don't want to no elim anymore

Alisae · Post Post #5112 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:30 pm

I think I am convinced that that is in fact, a bad idea now.

petapan · Post Post #5113 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:44 pm

In post 5110, Tammy wrote:Thing is theoretically Alisae and Pooky could be scum together. Yeah, I know well then why'd they out that they weren't lovers yesterday if they were scum together. I don't know. What I do know is that Alisae was resistant to no elim'ing yesterday so that I could try to get another investigation going into five players left. If they were scum together and if they were able to get a miselim yesterday they would have won.

And now Alisae wants us to no elim today to try to get an investigation and if they're scum tougher they only need the night kill.

I'm sure I'll hear a mouthful from the WHAT KIND OF SENSE DOES THAT MAKE WHAT ROAD TO VICTORY DO WE HAVE OUTING OURSELVES INSTEAD OF STAYING HIDDEN brigade

blah blah blah.

also midway the plan^tm was based on the idea that pooky died and you came back green. Then if one of you were godfathers, the three clears go into final three together and figure it out. but nahdia died last night which is weird.

i think the best play is flipping pooky so we know his alignment and go from there. possible a midwaygodfather thought the easier path to victory was playing up paranoia to the doctor. or pooky just didn't die because he's a bad guy. but this way we know either way.

midwaybear · Post Post #5114 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:50 pm

I still like my vote. Killing Alisae today should lead to Pooky scum getting exposed one way or the other. If peta is scum, it still sets up a 1v1 where I should be able to convince Tammy.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5115 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:10 pm

i dont see why mwb wants to kill alisae to expose pooky-scum instead of just killing pooky-scum.

if somehow this universe somehow has pooky-doctor and mwb-town I will take 100% responsibility for the town loss.

Alisae · Post Post #5116 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:14 pm

dead game

Alisae · Post Post #5117 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:15 pm

i ultimately see killing pooky and killing midway as basically the same thing but i will peepoarrive when something interesting happens or if i end up thinking about the game

midwaybear · Post Post #5118 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:18 pm

I don't care for you "taking responsibility".
I want to win and a definite path to victory is assured with Alisae hang.

Alisae · Post Post #5119 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:21 pm

really wish we killed someone yesterday tho

midwaybear · Post Post #5120 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:23 pm

In post 5115, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont see why mwb wants to kill alisae to expose pooky-scum instead of just killing pooky-scum.

If you are town, I do not know that Alisae is town for sure. I will actually have to think about the game in 3 way which I have the luxury of not doing with my own plan.

Alisae · Post Post #5121 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:23 pm

Yeah Pooky, i could have no killed for literally no reason

midwaybear · Post Post #5122 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:25 pm

In post 5121, Alisae wrote:Yeah Pooky, i could have no killed for literally no reason

I know this is sarcastic, but it is still theoretically possible.

Alisae · Post Post #5123 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:25 pm

wait no that sounds not as believable hold on let me change that

Yeah Pooky, I could have no killed because I knew that you were going to claim a doc protect on me, duh

Alisae · Post Post #5124 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:25 pm

sounds way more believable if you put it that way