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[Flavor Leaf]

Man, out of the 4 of those wagons, VP is like the actual worst one, Not Mafia.

[VP Baltar]

FL, maybe I need a mediator here. I'm not seeing town Taylor. Please explain to me what you're seeing and why I'm wrong

[DkKoba]

Man, out of the 4 of those wagons, VP is like the actual worst one, Not Mafia.

u know thats NM's MO tho

[Flavor Leaf]

you dont want to vig me?

I could Vig you, i don’t necessarily want to.

hmm because i feel like you normally want to vig me when we're both town

All one time of those is normally, apparently.

I have semi stopped trying to read you this game, which is an issue. I’m not getting scummy vibes or townie vibes from you, i could see both being what you are, but i can’t make a conclusive case on you either way.

I could very well see your interactions lately as scum orientated later in the game if more stuff happens, but I don’t think I’m capable of doing so now.

[DkKoba]

also i still have a massive headache hi

[Flavor Leaf]

Man, out of the 4 of those wagons, VP is like the actual worst one, Not Mafia.

u know thats NM's MO tho

It’s not, though.

He’s not a bad player, he just doesn’t post. If anything, sometimes he has accurate reads.

I’ve played with him for years now, and there’s a very small number of people who have won more scum games against me than lost. He is one of them.

[DkKoba]

yes he is a good player who intentionally plays to lose. i know the type

[Infinity 324]

Flavor what would I need to do to convince you you're wrong about VP?

[Flavor Leaf]

FL, maybe I need a mediator here. I'm not seeing town Taylor. Please explain to me what you're seeing and why I'm wrong

Beats me. You might be right.

For me, it’s like, nothing she has done seems like anything she wouldn’t be able to do as scum, so it just cancels it out.

However, I can see her based on personality and having vigged town her before potentially being town just going off. I don’t think she has correct analysis if she is town, though, not to the extent she’s acting anyways.

I don’t like her POE’s or her “town block”. She set her town block up so she can turn on literally any single one of them if she had to.

I think I’m starting to see her as scum now.

I don’t have much familiarity with her, to be honest. I don’t know how to accurately read her yet.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Infinity - for me, VP’s behavior would have to change and have something that looks like he’s pushing a different agenda than one he’s acting like he has.

If he is scum, and you are town, there are ways you could force it, but I’m not gonna spell those out for you. That’s mafia. You gotta figure out how to out scum and make others see.

[Not_Mafia]

Man, out of the 4 of those wagons, VP is like the actual worst one, Not Mafia.

I disagree

[Almost50]

Scum!FL knows what he's doing and his thoughts are traditionally well-organized. He may try to produce as much noise as possible to confuse everyone, but he does say "Jackson, Taylor, Not Mafia could be the team" while his vote is on DGB!!!

I'm not scumreading FL in the least but that argument is rubbish.

It's "too scummy to be scum" level of cringe.

OK...

1- Do you disagree that FL is a good scum player?
2- Do you disagree that the quote hints he's not even paying attention to what he says or what the game status is?

Now, if you do NOT disagree with both points; does the "not paying attention" part lead you to belive he's more likely Town or Scum?

You are in your own rights to dispute whatever reasoning you deem "rubbish" (like, you also insist meta is rubbish and I happen to disagree on 80% of the players), but seriously, I was once scum and FL acted like he didn't care and then he suddenly decided to get engaged and wiped my whole team out.

[Marky Mark]

Man, out of the 4 of those wagons, VP is like the actual worst one, Not Mafia.

I disagree

I genuinely don't know how we are going to sort this slot other than infinity targeting it every night in the hope they kill someone (obviously this isn't a legit plan and that is assuming town!infinity too)

[Marky Mark]

also i still have a massive headache hi

Yuck, sorry to hear that :S

[Not_Mafia]

I'm town

[Marky Mark]

I don't suppose you fancy articulating why you are voting VP, N_M?

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't suppose you fancy articulating why you are voting VP, N_M?

"he's scum" would be the response.

Is anyone else kind of feeling like VP and Marky Mark kind of blend together?

[Flavor Leaf]

If VP is town, I feel scum is for sure on the wagon already. If VP is scum, scum are probably not on the wagon.

[Not_Mafia]

I don't suppose you fancy articulating why you are voting VP, N_M?

He just feels kinda off

[Infinity 324]

Is anyone else kind of feeling like VP and Marky Mark kind of blend together?

What do you mean?

[Tayl0r Swift]

If VP is town, I feel scum is for sure on the wagon already. If VP is scum, scum are probably not on the wagon.

well that makes me more confident its a good wagon. except that NM is on there and NM is ??

[VP Baltar]

I don't suppose you fancy articulating why you are voting VP, N_M?

He just feels kinda off

off how?

[Not_Mafia]

Just like, not quite right, y'know

[Flavor Leaf]

People pushing NM as ??? or similar definitely have scum within them. Not Mafia is not unreadable.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am now starting to lean town on NM based on the directions he's chosen to go, and the silence he could bring further. He's not nearly trolling.

And actually, me town reading him highly brings his scum equity up. I've done this both times he ended up being scum winning against me.