Mini Normal 2173 | Bending | Game Over

[VP Baltar]

Taylor is so transparently town.

what are u doing when they flip scum ?

Infinity is most likely posturing as Scum. They’re never posting this for a Partner - it’s too early.

I seriously would much rather execute Infinity. The detective claim is useless.

I would agree it is unlikely they are both scum here. I really can't tell who is worse

[Andresvmb]

Given that I was the primary alternative to the gerain wagon, I'm not sure scum are more or less likely to be on the wagon fmpov. A town elim would've gone through no matter what. Koba flipping scum might change that but yeah.

This is objectively false yes? The choice really was between Koba and Geraintm, but enough Koba voters moved to Geraintm to ensure that one went through.

[Infinity 324]

This is objectively false yes? The choice really was between Koba and Geraintm, but enough Koba voters moved to Geraintm to ensure that one went through.

I had a decent chance of being limmed d1. If koba is town, scum don't care which wagon they're on.

[Andresvmb]

You did have a decent chance of being eliminated D1. But you objectively were not one of the choices at the end of the day. Otherwise, the Koba voters would have split between you and Geraintm, and that clearly did not happen.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah, I guess I feel like the votes at the very end of the day weren't super AI because they were just compromise votes. I still hold that the idea that scum is more likely to be on gerain relies on koba being scum.

[Andresvmb]

@Infinity - I don't want to get too bogged down in mechanics discussion but is your logic basically that there's usually only 1 investigative TPR therefore if nobody else is claiming it then it must be you?

Something like that, yeah. Basically, the expectation should be we have 1 investigative PR, or maybe multiple gated ones. Not saying I'm confirmed town, but the cases where I'm scum should be unlikely enough fypov that they get resolved during massclaim.

I can’t with this argument. Infinity spent the beginning of D2 defending their Claim (which was made way too early), after clearly looking awful based on votes and activity from the day before (clearly pursuing Town), and this makes them almost Confirmed Town?

[Infinity 324]

Have you ever seen a mini normal with no major investigatives?

[Andresvmb]

Have you ever seen a mini normal with no major investigatives?

This is a bad question and you know it.

[VP Baltar]

Have you ever seen a mini normal with no major investigatives?

So your argument is unless someone CC's you, you are obv town? I mean...

[DkKoba]

Have you ever seen a mini normal with no major investigatives?

whats up im here

[Andresvmb]

You think I’m going to mindlessly believe your claim because Mini Normals typically have Investigatives? What kind of argument is that? As if you could never fake Claim under pressure.

[DkKoba]

can we please just let night kills expose infinity and just play with the assumption that they are scum wrt reading bc it will be obvious over time

[Infinity 324]

Have you ever seen a mini normal with no major investigatives?

whats up im here

Your role is pretty weak.

You think I’m going to mindlessly believe your claim because Mini Normals typically have Investigatives? What kind of argument is that? As if you could never fake Claim under pressure.

I really thought site meta was to leave alive un-cc'ed investigatives. Yeah it's

possible

fypov there's isn't one but that's pretty rare and can be resolved during massclaim. This really isn't that complicated.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: Infinity 324

This needs to die. That argument is not an argument any Town player would put forth. A Town player would have waited to L-1 to make the claim, revealed any results then, and then would have stated plainly that such a Role is hard to confirm and therefore not a way to clear them. The way Infinity has approached it is a clear attempt at survival, and should be eliminated.

[Andresvmb]

can we please just let night kills expose infinity and just play with the assumption that they are scum wrt reading bc it will be obvious over time

You don’t let Scum get away just because they’re obvious, in my opinion.

[DkKoba]

im sorry andres im not going to go ahead on this, theres still a small chance that infinity is just town who played bad and im going to let them spew esp with how their reports get setup. even in chat mafia where in an open setup a PR can be uncc (because of a jan kill) people avoid eliming said PR unless they are so egregiously scummy they need to go. (with more MLs available im willing to let them live for now)

[Andresvmb]

To be honest I don’t like abandoning my early TRs. There’s usually a good reason I had them. Tayl0r deservedly needs to be questioned, but that post from Infinity is giving me a lot of pause (saying they are transparently Town). That is exactly the post you make for Town cred. Though to be fair, the connection between them was so obvious that maybe Infinity is forced into that statement.

[Infinity 324]

I've clearly been sorting people, discussing reads, pushing them when necessary. I've tried to engage with people and find common ground. Yet somehow I'm obvious enough scum that I should be limmed despite being an uncc'ed investigative. Someone make this make sense.

[Tayl0r Swift]

the thing about this gamestate is that it doesnt make sense. which suggests that theres prolly at least 2 scum in {FL, VPB, A50, koba, NM}

[DkKoba]

which of those 2 are your partners?

[Tayl0r Swift]

both of them

[VP Baltar]

I have a hard time believing scum!Andres comes in and pitches something like yeet infinity here. Strong town vibes from that push.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I have a hard time believing scum!Andres comes in and pitches something like yeet infinity here. Strong town vibes from that push.

and i was very confident on andres being town until his recent takes were so different from his day 1 stances. day 1 andres and i were borderline townbloc. now andres is shading me. i dont get it. and i dont understand why i still have the opposite take from you.

[DrippingGoofball]

Taylor is so transparently town.

what are u doing when they flip scum ?

This reeks of scum that actually KNOWS.

[DkKoba]

Taylor is so transparently town.

what are u doing when they flip scum ?

This reeks of scum that actually KNOWS.

no i just have a massive ego