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[VP Baltar]

They knew Marky would see him or they wanted to catch out Mark for not seeing them? Scum doesn’t target DGB here knowing Marky could ever possibly see them.

That true Koba?

yes, its even part of my message that this was my intent.

Lol wtf Koba. This message implies you believed mark was a watching/voyeur type role.

So did you or did you not believe his claim?

[Flavor Leaf]

Why would scum openly 1 for 1 like this, knowing that you and FL were both almost lock-town. They wouldn't, it'd be stupid.

"why would scum ever do that??"

*in situations where scum did, indeed do that*

u know the answer. i really hope you know the answer.


im angling to want mark elimed. mark is afraid to nk me bc i may be loyal. i havent claimed loyal. i soft loyal. mark preemtively guilties me so they look better(hey look it worked)

is it adding up yet?

I hope it’s super clear that as scum, Kkoba and I both doing this exact thing would be absolutely absurd.

[Andresvmb]

Koba are you claiming Multitasking Mailman now? Meaning you lied about your claim, outted Mark as a PR, has a role that fits only as a Mafia (NRG would tell the designer to just make it a Mailman).

Why are we not killing that.

Why would Koba target DGB knowing that Marky was going to target there?

I think this confirms Marky Mark is lying.

Why would town!Koba assume mark was telling the truth about being a voyeur/watcher etc?

I feel it’s similar to what I was doing with you. If Marky had claimed they saw the detective and not the messenger, it would have outed them as scum also.

Marky likely figured out what happened throughout Andres pushing and decided to try to get someone that they thought was conf town faded.

But how? It’s a super low probability guess. Koba never even implied to have messaged DGB.

[DkKoba]

They knew Marky would see him or they wanted to catch out Mark for not seeing them? Scum doesn’t target DGB here knowing Marky could ever possibly see them.

That true Koba?

yes, its even part of my message that this was my intent.

Lol wtf Koba. This message implies you believed mark was a watching/voyeur type role.

So did you or did you not believe his claim?

there was a 50/50 i thought mark had the capability of watching a target.


we cant pretend like its more likely theres a scum tracker who decided: nightkill koba, kill infinity.

that way u remove the variable where you dont know.

i went thru a lot of possibilities.

[Andresvmb]

As in Koba never claimed, and multiple players did not say anything. You obviously rule out both VPB who claimed it coming in, and myself, and Koba is obviously not messaging you again Flavor, but that still leaves half of the game.

[DkKoba]

Koba are you claiming Multitasking Mailman now? Meaning you lied about your claim, outted Mark as a PR, has a role that fits only as a Mafia (NRG would tell the designer to just make it a Mailman).

Why are we not killing that.

Why would Koba target DGB knowing that Marky was going to target there?

I think this confirms Marky Mark is lying.

Why would town!Koba assume mark was telling the truth about being a voyeur/watcher etc?

I feel it’s similar to what I was doing with you. If Marky had claimed they saw the detective and not the messenger, it would have outed them as scum also.

Marky likely figured out what happened throughout Andres pushing and decided to try to get someone that they thought was conf town faded.

But how? It’s a super low probability guess. Koba never even implied to have messaged DGB.

again, scum investigatives exist.

[Flavor Leaf]

Koba are you claiming Multitasking Mailman now? Meaning you lied about your claim, outted Mark as a PR, has a role that fits only as a Mafia (NRG would tell the designer to just make it a Mailman).

Why are we not killing that.

Why would Koba target DGB knowing that Marky was going to target there?

I think this confirms Marky Mark is lying.

Why would town!Koba assume mark was telling the truth about being a voyeur/watcher etc?

I feel it’s similar to what I was doing with you. If Marky had claimed they saw the detective and not the messenger, it would have outed them as scum also.

Marky likely figured out what happened throughout Andres pushing and decided to try to get someone that they thought was conf town faded.

But how? It’s a super low probability guess. Koba never even implied to have messaged DGB.

I think it was a mixture of luck and scum playing themselves.

DGB confirmed the message, Kkoba was pushing Marky Mark.

I think it’s as simple as Marky Mark knowing they had an issue with Kkoba this game, saw you taking the pair of us down, and Marky Mark swooped.

I do find the Multitasking on the messenger to be insanely weird as well. Why is it necessary, you could just not have that part.

[Andresvmb]

Given the specificity of Mark’s claim, there’s no universe where both Koba and Mark are Town. I am really deeply skeptical of the idea that the Scum Team all revealed themselves to us right here right now. That’s not happening.

[DkKoba]

i mean like we can theorize all we like regardless but the fact of the matter is that fypov it should be 100% plausible that mark knew who i targeted

[Flavor Leaf]

As in Koba never claimed, and multiple players did not say anything. You obviously rule out both VPB who claimed it coming in, and myself, and Koba is obviously not messaging you again Flavor, but that still leaves half of the game.

VPB is less townie for me right now, which kinda sucks, but it looks like they’re trying to save Marky Mark right now.

[VP Baltar]

They knew Marky would see him or they wanted to catch out Mark for not seeing them? Scum doesn’t target DGB here knowing Marky could ever possibly see them.

That true Koba?

yes, its even part of my message that this was my intent.

i didnt. i thought that was specifically why mark was trying to force infinity to target a specific person.

These two messages are stating exactly opposite things. I don't understand how you say both of them within a few posts of each other if your thoughts on it were clear to you

[DkKoba]

Morning all, I'm not up to date with all the new posts but just wanted to get the info out that DGB was visited by a detective and mailman

Clarification: multitasking mailman

look at that

they have a lapse here and slip and dont claim a role that would obviously be a scumclaim wrt what i claimed. the fact they just dropped this and left without even so much as dropping a vote is absurd

[Andresvmb]

Koba are you claiming Multitasking Mailman now? Meaning you lied about your claim, outted Mark as a PR, has a role that fits only as a Mafia (NRG would tell the designer to just make it a Mailman).

Why are we not killing that.

Why would Koba target DGB knowing that Marky was going to target there?

I think this confirms Marky Mark is lying.

Why would town!Koba assume mark was telling the truth about being a voyeur/watcher etc?

I feel it’s similar to what I was doing with you. If Marky had claimed they saw the detective and not the messenger, it would have outed them as scum also.

Marky likely figured out what happened throughout Andres pushing and decided to try to get someone that they thought was conf town faded.

But how? It’s a super low probability guess. Koba never even implied to have messaged DGB.

again, scum investigatives exist.

No I get it. I’m saying Mark is *definitely* an investigative. I don’t think Mark makes the claim they made or says these things without actually having some ability to back that up (or the Team).

[DkKoba]

They knew Marky would see him or they wanted to catch out Mark for not seeing them? Scum doesn’t target DGB here knowing Marky could ever possibly see them.

That true Koba?

yes, its even part of my message that this was my intent.

i didnt. i thought that was specifically why mark was trying to force infinity to target a specific person.

These two messages are stating exactly opposite things. I don't understand how you say both of them within a few posts of each other if your thoughts on it were clear to you

what was clear to me?

[Andresvmb]

As in Koba never claimed, and multiple players did not say anything. You obviously rule out both VPB who claimed it coming in, and myself, and Koba is obviously not messaging you again Flavor, but that still leaves half of the game.

VPB is less townie for me right now, which kinda sucks, but it looks like they’re trying to save Marky Mark right now.

Are you saying I was right the prior two days consistently, but since you attacked me so much you managed to warp my view of the game?

[Andresvmb]

I’m going to definitively say that either Marky Mark/VPB are Scum, or Koba/Flavor/DGB are Scum. If it’s VPB/Mark, then the third Scum really could be anybody, including JV who is being really aggressive. But then Not Mafia is Town, since they have been pushing VPB somewhat consistently.

[DkKoba]

at the time i wrote my message, i was not sure at all at the state of the game bc i was not expecting taylor to flip green.

mark/infinity i felt for sure had one scum so i had like a small benefit of the doubt for mark and was like "yeah they can prove this at least and if infinity and them are alive then at least that makes mark more likely to be town"

but we're in the world where town!infinity got nightkilled and mark is confscum now to me. my thoughts within my mail are not the same thoughts i have now obviously.

[Andresvmb]

I’m fact Not Mafia is probably always Town here.

[VP Baltar]

They knew Marky would see him or they wanted to catch out Mark for not seeing them? Scum doesn’t target DGB here knowing Marky could ever possibly see them.

That true Koba?

yes, its even part of my message that this was my intent.

i didnt. i thought that was specifically why mark was trying to force infinity to target a specific person.

These two messages are stating exactly opposite things. I don't understand how you say both of them within a few posts of each other if your thoughts on it were clear to you

what was clear to me?

Whether you believed Mark had voyeur/watcher abilities when you performed your night action on DGB.

[DrippingGoofball]

My town block is Andres and DkKoba.

[DkKoba]

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why not FL?

[Flavor Leaf]

Given the specificity of Mark’s claim, there’s no universe where both Koba and Mark are Town. I am really deeply skeptical of the idea that the Scum Team all revealed themselves to us right here right now. That’s not happening.

If this was one day further, then I would argue against this, but I think Kkoba was the best chance for scum to try and fade today if they could because it gives them an extra misfade option. It doesn’t matter if one of them went down from pushing because they still move onto the next day, and they get to kill me afterwards.

This would leave a situation where Koba flips town, I get killed, Marky gets faded, they kill...let’s say Andres?

The final 5 is Jackson, Not Mafia, DGB, VPB, A50.
2 of those are scum in that world, likely this world, and that leaves them just needing 1 fade, even if they end up going down that day, they still need just 1 fade. They could even no kill to leave more options.

[Flavor Leaf]

My town block is Andres and DkKoba.

Probably a scum slip here tbh

[DkKoba]

They knew Marky would see him or they wanted to catch out Mark for not seeing them? Scum doesn’t target DGB here knowing Marky could ever possibly see them.

That true Koba?

yes, its even part of my message that this was my intent.

i didnt. i thought that was specifically why mark was trying to force infinity to target a specific person.

These two messages are stating exactly opposite things. I don't understand how you say both of them within a few posts of each other if your thoughts on it were clear to you

what was clear to me?

Whether you believed Mark had voyeur/watcher abilities when you performed your night action on DGB.

i was just testing what mark was hard softing. it was like "if they dont see me thats a 100% confirmation and a slip". thats it. thats the thought process

[DrippingGoofball]

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why not FL?

From your message you are 100% town to me.

From behavior today, also Andres.

No one is as town as you two, for me.