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[Menalque]

Menalque Infinity peta I guess, but I don't have to feel good about it.

I feel like S_S using mechanics to justify voting me when the mechanics are weak evidence for me being scum is fairly +scum for him, ftr

because I feel like S_S, despite his earlier protestations to the contrary, knows my towngame well enough to know by this point that this is it, despite his respect for my scumgame

[Menalque]

like if there was hard mech evidence or I'd towntold significantly less I think he'd be fine

but in light of

both

those things, I think his equity goes up a lot

however, if peta is scum then it's almost certainly Dave, I was just getting paranoid, and skitter was right

I guess there are possibilities of a Dave/S_S/peta team tho, now I think of it, so maybe if we go peta->Dave and they're both red we shouldn't dismiss S_S out of hand

[petapan]

Menalque Infinity peta I guess, but I don't have to feel good about it.

I feel like S_S using mechanics to justify voting me when the mechanics are weak evidence for me being scum is fairly +scum for him, ftr

because I feel like S_S, despite his earlier protestations to the contrary, knows my towngame well enough to know by this point that this is it, despite his respect for my scumgame

and you're voting me here because...?

[Menalque]

bc if you're scum Dave is conf!scum I think

[petapan]

so this is purely based in a hypothetical rather than any actual reasoning toward me being scum. got it.

VOTE: menalque

[petapan]

like what a garbage reason. pure dogshit.

[Menalque]

I mean it's really gonna vindicate me when you red

[Menalque]

like, this has already been explained to you peta

there are 6 people who can be redirector (and we apparently NEED to elim within that pool for ?? reasons, this is something I'm going to come back to as a reason we lost the game in post -- although scum have done very well in controlling the narratives. e.g. on D2 around the idea that I couldn't have been targeted for the NK, and now that limiting the elim to the redirector pool is correct)

one of them is claiming neighbouriser
one of them is claiming watcher, which you're supporting

of the 4 left, it's you, me, and two sort of TRs (even if I'm not TRing S_S I put weight in skirts read there)

so no, I don't want to elim myself or either of the sort of TRs, and the only option I'm left with is you
as pure preference, I'd like to elim Dave or S&M (or maybe BB) but apparently that's not happening, so I'm left with either disregarding reads or killing you who COULD be scum on play and who COULD be puling a gambit here if you don't think you'll lose too much cred from (mine/S_S)'s green flip to not be able to get the other one tomorrow

[Menalque]

like the fact of the matter is that Dave still isn't gonna be trustworthy tomorrow, is transparently a wolf, and any claim he makes is going to be suspect about his NA

talking of which, also, how come you still have that NA Dave? why didn't you use it earlier than the point where you knew using it would result in it being a lylo claim?

so if I can flip you who confirms Dave as red, yes, that is my preference

[petapan]

I mean it's really gonna vindicate me when you red

not happening

[petapan]

but you're fucking dead even if i go over today and i think i'm fine with that outcome

[Menalque]

I mean it's really gonna vindicate me when you red

not happening

mmmmmm

[Menalque]

ehh actually I can't decide who I want more between S_S and peta

I absolve myself of the decision

it's still Dave who's scum, kill him tomorrow, then probably BB, then have a fun lylo choosing between S_S and peta whoever's left

anyone who tries to push the bullshit ("we have to kill in the redirector pool" tomorrow is

MEGA SUS

)

[petapan]

it's not but i'm done trying to make a point of this

[Menalque]

I mean, it is unless you find it very compelling that there's more than 1 scum in the redirector pool that we've looking at which I think is unlikely

[Menalque]

look, whatever, I'm really burned out but I'm not gonna vote myself so can S&M and N_M just get here so we can make a decision either way

[Menalque]

honestly rn I'd almost rather be elim'd because my mood is really pretty low irl and idk if/when that's gonna pick up again, and until it does I'm not gonna be able to defend myself properly for lylo if we're wrong today

[Menalque]

like D2 was draining, today was draining, when combined with irl I don't think I have a D5 performance in me

[petapan]

I mean, it is unless you find it very compelling that there's more than 1 scum in the redirector pool that we've looking at which I think is unlikely

i legit do not know who is scum otherwise

[Something_Smart]

I feel like S_S using mechanics to justify voting me when the mechanics are weak evidence for me being scum is fairly +scum for him, ftr

Good, because that's not why you're at the top of my list. It's because I townread peta, and I trust your townread on Infinity.

[Something_Smart]

anyone who tries to push the bullshit ("we have to kill in the redirector pool" tomorrow is MEGA SUS)

Do you mean it's bullshit now, or it's bullshit in lylo? I do agree with the latter.

[Menalque]

I feel like S_S using mechanics to justify voting me when the mechanics are weak evidence for me being scum is fairly +scum for him, ftr

Good, because that's not why you're at the top of my list. It's because I townread peta, and I trust your townread on Infinity.

you think I'm the most likely person to be scum yet simultaneously you think my townread on infinity is legit... mmhm

anyone who tries to push the bullshit ("we have to kill in the redirector pool" tomorrow is MEGA SUS)

Do you mean it's bullshit now, or it's bullshit in lylo? I do agree with the latter.

on both days. we should be executing S&M today (to see if the JK was bullshit while we still can) or we should kill Dave/maybe BB because those are the scummiest slots

[Menalque]

there is like, a vague case to say that Dave is playing too poorly to be scum but that's (1) just wine (2) he's been scummy throughout and (3) could be he thinks he can get away with it bc town won't look at the reads of dead town once I'm gone/just generally are too fractured to coalesce around him

[Something_Smart]

you think I'm the most likely person to be scum yet simultaneously you think my townread on infinity is legit... mmhm

Well, yeah. Your likelihood to be scum isn't related to the strength of your reads if you are town.

[Menalque]

I mean, it is unless you find it very compelling that there's more than 1 scum in the redirector pool that we've looking at which I think is unlikely

i legit do not know who is scum otherwise

what do you mean

you're saying there /are/ 2 scum in the redirector pool? if you're not scum, then it's S_S or infinity, + 2 which are by definition outside the pool

I don't *think* S_S + infinity are teamed, but if they are then fair play