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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:11 am

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I like NPOM's fighting spirit here
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:11 am

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If he thought I was scum he should have voted me instead of himself.
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:12 am

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im sure if i ISO him, ill conclude he's scum again, but in real time i feel less inclined.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:13 am

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In post 499, NoPowerOverMe wrote:He voted himself and got himself hammered. Usually putting someone at L2 isn't an indication you want them eliminated immediately.
I disagree.

That’s the exact vote I like to look at for scum putting the swing vote on. That and the fourth vote.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:13 am

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In post 501, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If he thought I was scum he should have voted me instead of himself.
He did.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:13 am

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I am leaning towards OWER being scum power role and FL being his buddy. No reason for FL to attack me instead of OWER here.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:13 am

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In post 256, benhalkum wrote:VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

Casting my vote based upon post.

In the first vote of the game from npom, throws out a hi to Titus.

In several threads indicates they've played with Titus and Titus is town. Also questioned titus' vote changes.

As the game progressed now says they know Titus is great as scum.

Then cast a vote based off of just others votes, with no actual reasoning. Claims that because both have history with me is why abd they trust them.

One of those people is Titus that I don't recall having a history with and until today town claimed me. However, the weirdness falls of pushing Titus so pro town, which I believe she is now, but then drawing out how she is as scum then aligning with. I believe this is a distraction to pull away from the rest of their game posting, which is mostly short answers or statements with no relevant pro town help.

I also believe that FL is town based off of this as I do not think they'd quote either a scummate at the moment as when I flip green, it would cause speculation.

The scummate lives in another voter who hasn't said much/has deflected and/or not voted yet either for me or at all.

:Shrugs:

That's where I stand atm.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:15 am

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In post 505, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I am leaning towards OWER being scum power role and FL being his buddy. No reason for FL to attack me instead of OWER here.
You are specifically attacking me.

Get outta here with misrepping what actions i am taking.

I a, completely just reacting to what’s going on. I haven’t pushed shit. I’ve stated my thoughts on wagonomics, but I’ve clearly stated multiple times, I am waiting for the lurkers to come into a decision.

You are like flailing and panicking for no reason.

You pushing me is slightly the only thing I can see as townie, but you might not realize as scum that pushing me here has made it like 80% likely for you to end up getting faded today. And before it was probably only like 55.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:16 am

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VOTE: wiyvern
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:16 am

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Yeah, he also self voted so where does that leave his credibility?
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:17 am

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im ok with another short day now
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:17 am

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FL's logic is zero here.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:17 am

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why wiyvern?
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:18 am

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NPOM my mindset is I want to punish poor behavior. Idrc if a quickhammer comes from town or scum just the possibility that it could be from scum is enough for me to say I don't want to allow that play to happen in any game I'm in. The other side is that this quickhammer has valid reasons that seem to indicate it's likely from town, as FL has (I think I didn't bother to read it because like I said i don't care what alignment it comes from) described.

Based on that he's looking at me and you pushing that today + me/you/titus/bm hopping on the wagon that got a quickhammer, since middle votes are more likely to be scummy than a quickhammer in that situation. I disagree with that because I think VCA is bad (not because of the quality of the VCA, which you'll have to talk to titus about) but both of my beliefs here are (i think) in the minority of MS users and are 100% subjective, so FL's take here is also valid.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:18 am

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I feel like you’re purposefully not understanding. You just have to read my posts to see my logic.
, it’s your logic that doesn’t make sense.

Why would his credibility be gone?
Those were still his reads, and now we know they were his genuine town reads.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:19 am

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In post 510, Battle Mage wrote:im ok with another short day now
same if we're getting rid of the quickhammer person, but otherwise disagree
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:19 am

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lurker, promised 'content' which vibes more as "i'll post some words to keep myself out of trouble" than "i actually care about finding scum here"
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:20 am

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In post 486, Flavor Leaf wrote:And I have pushed you, Titus, and Super Bowl as likely having scum in it.
Great. Let's do superbowl9 as he's in my scumpool. Otherwise, I am joining BM on wivyern.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:20 am

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I disagree that quickhammers are inherently scummy.

I personally don’t think losing town Day 1 is bad either.

Ben shouldn’t have done that as a PR without claiming, (probably shouldn’t have in general, but the play was made, I’m just fixing it)

I think it was fair to assume that Ben wasn’t going to be a PR because they hadn’t claimed and they self voted E-1.

I would have pushed for that to be faded either way if it wasn’t, so yeah. I would have done the same thing Outer did.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:21 am

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In post 513, superbowl9 wrote:NPOM my mindset is I want to punish poor behavior. Idrc if a quickhammer comes from town or scum just the possibility that it could be from scum is enough for me to say I don't want to allow that play to happen in any game I'm in. The other side is that this quickhammer has valid reasons that seem to indicate it's likely from town, as FL has (I think I didn't bother to read it because like I said i don't care what alignment it comes from) described.

Based on that he's looking at me and you pushing that today + me/you/titus/
bm hopping on the wagon
that got a quickhammer, since middle votes are more likely to be scummy than a quickhammer in that situation. I disagree with that because I think VCA is bad (not because of the quality of the VCA, which you'll have to talk to titus about) but both of my beliefs here are (i think) in the minority of MS users and are 100% subjective, so FL's take here is also valid.
i wasnt on that fking wagon! :eek:
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:21 am

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Wagonomics I’m looking at, not VCA. Similar, but different
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:21 am

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Thoses who self vote don't have credibility. He deserved his elimination. I disagree with how the elimination happened.

VOTE: OutworldER
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:21 am

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In post 517, Titus wrote:
In post 486, Flavor Leaf wrote:And I have pushed you, Titus, and Super Bowl as likely having scum in it.
Great. Let's do superbowl9 as he's in my scumpool. Otherwise, I am joining BM on wivyern.
come on Titus, sheep my read ;)
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:22 am

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In post 520, Flavor Leaf wrote:Wagonomics I’m looking at, not VCA. Similar, but different
Yes. VCA is impossible atm. Wagonomics isn't.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:22 am

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Super Bowl or Wiveryn it looks like is what’s gonna happen today. Interesting NPOM seems to have avoided being a top suspicion.
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