976: mystyry box of sylvyr I: isis game. day 3

[Akarin]

@Gypyx

If you're town,

please

try to give the game some serious attention and thought. It's Dastardly Deed Or Lose time today, we all need to give this our best.

[SKYEscrapers]

yes, it's just been me (tris) except the additional huh from ari. he should be here today i believe.

[SKYEscrapers]

Hello, this is the negligent head. I'm 3 pages behind give or take (wherever that mastina series of posts was). I'm on it now.

I will say that I can confirm mastina does not fakeclaim her roles. She may leave out details but it's always true, regardless of alignment.

- Ari

[Aristophanes]

Dunn-Akarin half fingering me

[SKYEscrapers]

Dunn-Akarin half fingering me

Oops

[SKYEscrapers]

Okay, so this vote comes down to whether we believe the Doc claim or not.

Tris and I went back and forth a lot on this, because the possible scumteams are Gypyx/mastina or Akarin/Dunn based on this, with small exceptions but almost reliably assured.

I think mastina is genuinely plating her towngame here. My biggest reservation is that I could see schadd having 2 aliens in the came for the red herring counterclaim, but I'm trying not to ModWine myself too much here.

I believe the proper way to do this is to eliminate the Doc claim first in case it's scum claiming an inno on actual town, but once again that chance seems slim.

VOTE: Akarin

If there's a quickhammer here, I'm really sorry. I'm hoping I can read mastina correctly this time.

- Ari

[Akarin]

Uh, Mastina is the one who claimed Doc.

And if you're town, let's actually talk about Mastina instead of just dropping that vote on gut with 9 days on the clock.

I'm trying to look at old schadd setups now.

[Akarin]

Like, Ari, what part of Mastina's giant wall of bullshit is persuasive to you and let's talk about it.

[SKYEscrapers]

i think he means cop

[mastina]

VOTE: Akarin

[Gypyx]

VOTE: akarin

[Akarin]

I hate you Ari

[Gypyx]

Oh god, my heart can't take this

Gg y'all

[Akarin]

Posting this half-finished because damn it I put in the effort trying to figure out setups

Okay, so it's like impossible to find things in schadd's topic history, but here's the best I can do for former MBoS setups.
12/2018micro 840: mystery box of silver:
9p: Night 2 Invéstigatoire, BP N1&N2 Tracker/D3 IC, 5VT, 2 Goon
Scumteam got to choose which player got to be the Tracker, first Eliminated player got to choose Invéstigatoire.
Mafia knew the setup.
Mastina was scum in this one btw.

5/2019 welcome to micro 871, mystery box of silver number 4: god is ALIVE
9p: informed night 2 neapolitan, 6 VT, 1 Goon, Macho Informed Mafian
Neap knew "you happen to know that lost ghosts is macho (kills successfully targeting them cannot fail)."
Mafia knew "you happen to know that there is an informed night 2 neapolitan among the town; they know you are macho. you also know that no killing roles exist among the town."
Mastina/Tris was a town slot in this game.

6/2019 mystery box of silver 5: the clash of cash
18p:

8/2019micro 886: mbos6 william tatney:
9p: Town Doctor, Town Wet Rolecop, 5 VTs, 2 goons
Wet Rolecop = Rolecop, Goons/VTs both look Vanilla, action fails if target visited by anyone else.
Mastina town, Tris scum in this one.

[Akarin]

Schadd does not make it easy to figure out what the setups are in some older games

[mastina]

VOTE: Akarin

(For the record, we were convinced the game was lost when schadd_ basically publicly confirmed Dunnstral's claim was not a lie and I very much disagree with the handling of that and do genuinely feel like the Dunnstral slot was compromised from the mod announcement and by virtue of him being town, Akarin was also by proxy confirmed as town. So I was convinced scum couldn't win this because of that.)

[Gypyx]

Honestly, that setup was weirder than the usual MBOS stuff

[Akarin]

I'd been suspecting you off and on all game Mastina, and those walls just oozed scum to me, I can't figure why Ari bought into them.

And especially can't figure why he

voted

.

[mastina]

Also if it makes you feel better, Ari: Akarin and Dunnstral had no real grounds for me being scum and they were in the wrong when going after me by and large and, yes. I was indeed playing to my town meta.

I legit don't think I've had a scumgame this good which was why I was so fucking pissed when it looked like all that effort was for nothing because of the mod basically confirming a slot.

[Akarin]

Sorry, I'll get over being salty in a minute.

And I want to apologize to Tris for constantly wanting to talk to Ari instead. I was townreading Tris and really liked your input all game but I wanted to see Ari's responses because the lurking was the main cause of my suspicion but I'd been looking at some Ari games and was wanting to see if I could differentiate lurker town Ari from lurker scum Ari and felt like that would be easier to figure that Tris' alignment.

[mastina]

I'd been suspecting you off and on all game Mastina, and those walls just oozed scum to me, I can't figure why Ari bought into them.

Because if you cased me on being scum off of those walls in 9/10 games, you'd be wrong and I'd be town in those games, and Ari has played with me enough to know that.

This game was just the 1/10 times where I happened to be scum.

My walls were based on actual solid logic, pretending they weren't didn't do you favors. Saying they were 'exhausting' didn't address how they were based off of actual reasoning and well thought out.

[Akarin]

Mastina, I seriously don't think you were anywhere near as towny as you think you were.

[Akarin]

They really aren't that logical, you have some serious self-serving misreps in them and they were actually too exhausting for me to deal with in the middle of the day, and I didn't think anyone would read me trying to tear them apart anyway.

Besides, you'd just make a lot of noise and get SKYE/Gypyx (whichever was town) to skim over the argument.

Never thought the day would be over that fast without time to discuss what was actually in them that others were finding persuasive.

[mastina]

(For example: 1179 through 1185? I posted almost those exact posts in Ali vs Pine, where I was town and a bodyguard. The town of that game that mislynched me used YOUR logic, Akarin. They said that I was arguing to exhaust them and self-serving. They were wrong, I was town. The posting of that sort is NOT typical of my scumgame; posting like that is the hallmark of my towngame. I just somehow managed to make it this game as scum. Which'll suck for like the 20 towngames following this where people will point to this game as evidence of it being "hallmark of scumastina", when no, this game is the exception to the general rule. )

[Gypyx]

I'm pretty happy for this game to be the exception tbh, like, i'm on a loseStreak these last 6 months xd