Among Us Mafia [GAME OVER]

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VoteCount 1.35

Battle Mage [4]

OutWorldER flea the magician DrippingGoofball blitzo

No Elim [2]

sircakez titus

titus[2]

bell haschel cedricson

xRECKONERx [1]

pookythemagicalbear

Haschel Cedricson [1]

alisae

blitzo [1]

thegoldenparadox

murdercat [1]

akarin

flea the magician [1]

Battle Mage

Alisae [1]

xRECKONERx

Bell [1]

murdercat

DrippingGoofball [1]

taly

Not Voting [1]

gamma emerald

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-08 15:40:31)

[MURDERCAT]

Lol I haven't read the VCs for like 10 pages, I think I should be voting blitzo

VOTE: Blitzo

[Battle Mage]

i'm on board

VOTE: blitzo

[Flea The Magician]

Flea is doing a lot of that LAMISTy stuff but it's superficial - long ISO cases which don't strike a balanced objective line, are a scum move I've used many times in my youth.

This is where you and I differ, you read my ISO as a case and as an attack, not me running over my thoughts on you and adjusting or confirming my read.

It's my thoughts, not a case. If people agree with it, they agree with it. If people want to supply me with non-meta information or differing ways of reading a post, then I'll sit, consider and adjust.

I'm a brain spewer I just put out whatevers in my head as I'm reading something.

I mean I don't think it's so much that "we differ", as you're wrong. There was no obvious attempt to "adjust" your read - you singled out a bunch of posts which were completely meaningless and objectively NAI, and tried to contrive to make them seem scummy to bolster your position. It was a case of "I've said BM is scum, now I have to prove it" rather than "I wonder if BM is town or scum".

I'm open to the idea that you're just town who got carried away, but I'll wait and see if you take a more objective line to appraising people going forward.

I love how you're telling me what I did <3
I love how you completely missing the face I'm a brainspewer.
I love how you're completely hooked on being defensive.
It's kinda cute (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤

[Flea The Magician]

i'm on board

VOTE: blitzo

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[Taly]

VOTE: DippingGoofball

I want to start here. Undeveloped thoughts from this slot.

This is OMGUS.

You know me better than this,

Titus

.

I want Titus to explain her meta takes and evaluate their strength openly. I think her frustration to DGB is sincere and I want to lean in on the way she approaches this plist read wise.

What in particular?

Meta. You townread

Flea

and I off of it in one of your early spews.

If you want to group, requote this list in a chain

Taly, come to Electrical tonight.

Titus reads all over the place here - unusual for her.

Ignoring the baiting from Flea - I have been pulling out some great reads so far imho.

I'd love the

Titus/Alisae/You

PT but I'm going to

Admin or Navigation

for tasks.

I agree with your take on

Titus

, usually they stick to a few thoughts at once.

ok
Does anyone else have the feeling with Taly's posts that she is writing a lot of words but none of them actually mean that much?

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I thought I said a lot with my vote, something you ached to see..

Btw, do you have thoughts? Hard to find those from you.

Spoiler:

ok
Does anyone else have the feeling with Taly's posts that she is writing a lot of words but none of them actually mean that much?

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I highly doubt DGB read any of taly's posts b4 responding here.

Pooky

, everybody is paranoid of me and nobody is approaching me in the game right now.

Spoiler:

Flea is doing a lot of that LAMISTy stuff but it's superficial - long ISO cases which don't strike a balanced objective line, are a scum move I've used many times in my youth.

This is where you and I differ, you read my ISO as a case and as an attack, not me running over my thoughts on you and adjusting or confirming my read.

It's my thoughts, not a case. If people agree with it, they agree with it. If people want to supply me with non-meta information or differing ways of reading a post, then I'll sit, consider and adjust.

I'm a brain spewer I just put out whatevers in my head as I'm reading something.

I mean I don't think it's so much that "we differ", as you're wrong. There was no obvious attempt to "adjust" your read - you singled out a bunch of posts which were completely meaningless and objectively NAI, and tried to contrive to make them seem scummy to bolster your position. It was a case of "I've said BM is scum, now I have to prove it" rather than "I wonder if BM is town or scum".

I'm open to the idea that you're just town who got carried away, but I'll wait and see if you take a more objective line to appraising people going forward.

I love how you're telling me what I did <3
I love how you completely missing the face I'm a brainspewer.
I love how you're completely hooked on being defensive.
It's kinda cute (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤

Flea

, the more you suggest

"I am a brainspewer, this is how I go about posting and thoughts"

makes me think that this approach is intentional, and it stumps me when I'm trying to find where your head is out outside of quote-by-quote walls and 1v1s.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Taly it's because your avatar keeps changing like somebody who can't make up their mind in the loading screen

[Taly]

Taly it's because your avatar keeps changing like somebody who can't make up their mind in the loading screen

lol

<3

but really, im a bit agitated with the thread.

such a distinct lack of cohesion in the plist.

i literally do not get learn anything reading these elaborate quote-to-quote convos that discuss something rooting back to mechanics or are about wagon placement.

Flea/Murder/{Alisae/Battle Mage/Titus}/Taly

are what I have down for people who want to group.

I believe

Murder/I

share a destination. I'm good with this as a start to the group.

Up until 1335 I didn't have a notable impression with

Murder

outside of the random emphasis on mechanic plans and random votes that I don't agree with. The linked post is a bit nuanced, and I like it.

Murder

1)

Why

Blitzo

?

2)

Can you explain game 2170 and how it relates to

Pooky

read? I don't agree with their

"let's lim in the non-claims"

because I think that can be role-fishy and motivation behind an agenda (oriented to getting people to work with their plans) is what I'm evaluating

Pooky

on rn.

3)

Without ISOing

Haschel

, I relate to their arduous running relationship with the thread and reading... and I don't understand the scumreads on this slot because they seemed a bit based around him agreeing with

Reck

on mechanic POV

[Taly]

also

i think this is the first time

Battle Mage

does not sus me in a game LMAO

does scum-

BM

really give

Flea

the benefit of the doubt here? 1296

[MURDERCAT]

Murder
1) Why Blitzo?
2) Can you explain game 2170 and how it relates to Pooky read? I don't agree with their "let's lim in the non-claims" because I think that can be role-fishy and motivation behind an agenda (oriented to getting people to work with their plans) is what I'm evaluating Pooky on rn.
3) Without ISOing Haschel, I relate to their arduous running relationship with the thread and reading... and I don't understand the scumreads on this slot because they seemed a bit based around him agreeing with Reck on mechanic POV

Anything for you Taly

1. Honestly, I am on board with no elim so this is kind of just a park vote representing my general read on Blitzo. All his posts are kind of hand wavy in a way I don't like. Like off the top of your head, can you remember any of Blitzo's reads? I remember there being some vague suspicion of me but other than that I can't remember. But then you read the iso and like there is stuff there, but I don't feel like any of it is actually changing the game at all if that makes sense. So basically, I think Blitzo is posting a lot of look busy fluff. I can give examples, but honestly I think it's kind of clear what I mean from a general skim of the iso.

2. I think Pooky in death curse feels a lot more intentional compared to Pooky in 2170. Like the same kind of energy is there in both games, but I feel like it was directed differently, if that makes any sense. I SR'd Pooky in both games though so /shrug

3. I think HC is more likely scum than Reck because I expect scum to be less vocal than Reck is being if they want to try to derail the grouping. I am mostly null there though.

[Battle Mage]

Flea is doing a lot of that LAMISTy stuff but it's superficial - long ISO cases which don't strike a balanced objective line, are a scum move I've used many times in my youth.

This is where you and I differ, you read my ISO as a case and as an attack, not me running over my thoughts on you and adjusting or confirming my read.

It's my thoughts, not a case. If people agree with it, they agree with it. If people want to supply me with non-meta information or differing ways of reading a post, then I'll sit, consider and adjust.

I'm a brain spewer I just put out whatevers in my head as I'm reading something.

I mean I don't think it's so much that "we differ", as you're wrong. There was no obvious attempt to "adjust" your read - you singled out a bunch of posts which were completely meaningless and objectively NAI, and tried to contrive to make them seem scummy to bolster your position. It was a case of "I've said BM is scum, now I have to prove it" rather than "I wonder if BM is town or scum".

I'm open to the idea that you're just town who got carried away, but I'll wait and see if you take a more objective line to appraising people going forward.

I love how you're telling me what I did <3
I love how you completely missing the face I'm a brainspewer.
I love how you're completely hooked on being defensive.
It's kinda cute (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤

I'm trying to help you. You're just trying to patronise and belittle me.

I mean, earlier on you complained I ignored you. now you're complaining that I responded.

[Battle Mage]

i'm on board

VOTE: blitzo

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i don't know why you're so hung up on me just voting without a bunch of caveats/disclaimers. xxx

[xRECKONERx]

i think we need to start eliming in the no room claim pool


we can probly hit bad guys

and if they're townies we were never going to win this game

VOTE: Reck

my tolerance for gamethrowing is gone

but wait i said i would go along with this

idiotic

plan!!

[xRECKONERx]

like the counterargument to the plan of "we cant let the scum know where we are" doesnt make sense when half the player list has already claimed their locations.

"ah yes, we've already stuck one arm into the meat grinder and had it torn to bits, why stop there? let's force the other one in as well!!"

[Battle Mage]

also

i think this is the first time

Battle Mage

does not sus me in a game LMAO

does scum-

BM

really give

Flea

the benefit of the doubt here? 1296

haha well you're in my neutral pile I guess!

and I certainly could - scum-BM is highly skilled!

[Taly]

<3

you sure make a toucan feel special

Murder
1) Why Blitzo?
2) Can you explain game 2170 and how it relates to Pooky read? I don't agree with their "let's lim in the non-claims" because I think that can be role-fishy and motivation behind an agenda (oriented to getting people to work with their plans) is what I'm evaluating Pooky on rn.
3) Without ISOing Haschel, I relate to their arduous running relationship with the thread and reading... and I don't understand the scumreads on this slot because they seemed a bit based around him agreeing with Reck on mechanic POV

Anything for you Taly

1. Honestly, I am on board with no elim so this is kind of just a park vote representing my general read on Blitzo. All his posts are kind of hand wavy in a way I don't like. Like off the top of your head, can you remember any of Blitzo's reads? I remember there being some vague suspicion of me but other than that I can't remember. But then you read the iso and like there is stuff there, but I don't feel like any of it is actually changing the game at all if that makes sense. So basically, I think Blitzo is posting a lot of look busy fluff. I can give examples, but honestly I think it's kind of clear what I mean from a general skim of the iso.

Blitzo

has briefly mentioned and discussed 9 people in this game total. So your vote makes sense.

I'm not following the mindmeld with

DGB

in 1057

Blitzo

, can you give a simple reads post?

2. I think Pooky in death curse feels a lot more intentional compared to Pooky in 2170. Like the same kind of energy is there in both games, but I feel like it was directed differently, if that makes any sense. I SR'd Pooky in both games though so /shrug

3. I think HC is more likely scum than Reck because I expect scum to be less vocal than Reck is being if they want to try to derail the grouping. I am mostly null there though.

Jury is still out for me on

Haschel

but I do like your reasoning there.

Also, omg so many

Death Curse

mentions... I'll just have to read

Pooky

there and build some baseline on reading them.

p-edit

1310 felt like I was looking into a mirror.

BM

is probably town.

p-edit

also

i think this is the first time

Battle Mage

does not sus me in a game LMAO

does scum-

BM

really give

Flea

the benefit of the doubt here? 1296

haha well you're in my neutral pile I guess!

and I certainly could - scum-BM is highly skilled!

nononono

pretend to scumread or townread me, being neutral-read is painful AF.

also same, i relate to your flex about being good scum when someone implies a favorable POV to you.

[Taly]

Spoiler:

murderkitties

, i like your 563 but i feel like your 365 went a bit hard onto a slot relatively early for the games pace

how has your

cakez

read progressed?

TAAAALLLLLYYYYYYYY!
1) How are you?
2) Who is your worst read at the moment?
3) Is there anything so far you disagree with?
4) Why are you upside down? ( ͜。 ͡ʖ ͜。)

1)

good, bout to get to college work, need to stop letting mafia distract haha

2)

no particular scumreads... need to reread

TGP

because they did not pass the vibe check.

alisae

passed the vibe check but not yet the deepwolf check. i think you are quite fluffy even with your wall, tbh - i want more concrete statements from you.

pooky

feels agenda-y but that doesnt ping me by itself.
i think the amount of times

reck

comes into this thread only to say

"i wont read and i denounce the threads mentality"

is genuine BUT is being used deflectively.
actually did not care for this readslist from

BM

i think it's most likely that Alisae is town and Titus is scum. Akarin town, Pooky town, Cakez town.

felt very early to make reads on these players, at least mostly town-ones.

id rather

BM

just explain these reads. i think

OWER

prodded them at some point but if they replied, the answer wasnt noticeable enough for me to see it.

(maybe OWER prodded murderkitties instead)

3)

disagreement is not the correct word... more cautiously inquisitive. this town did not have a very cohesive start with everything considered.

4)

why i am upside down you ask?
my nails are lavender D:< not as red as my role PM or as green as what id want to brag they be.

Like look at this post for example
So much words but I don't actually get much from it?

Cakez

, why are you only looking at one of my earliest posts, and one at a time for this?

Yeah, I don't believe your stance here.

[Battle Mage]

I'm hard-town on Cakez

[Taly]

Shit.

My townreads are generally people who scumread each other.

BM-Flea

Pooky-Reck

Murder-Alisae

with

Gamma/OWER

floating off somewhere.

This gamestate sucks.

p-edit

I'm hard-town on Cakez

Case it.

[SirCakez]

i'm on board

VOTE: blitzo

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What does this even mean

Spoiler:

murderkitties

, i like your 563 but i feel like your 365 went a bit hard onto a slot relatively early for the games pace

how has your

cakez

read progressed?

TAAAALLLLLYYYYYYYY!
1) How are you?
2) Who is your worst read at the moment?
3) Is there anything so far you disagree with?
4) Why are you upside down? ( ͜。 ͡ʖ ͜。)

1)

good, bout to get to college work, need to stop letting mafia distract haha

2)

no particular scumreads... need to reread

TGP

because they did not pass the vibe check.

alisae

passed the vibe check but not yet the deepwolf check. i think you are quite fluffy even with your wall, tbh - i want more concrete statements from you.

pooky

feels agenda-y but that doesnt ping me by itself.
i think the amount of times

reck

comes into this thread only to say

"i wont read and i denounce the threads mentality"

is genuine BUT is being used deflectively.
actually did not care for this readslist from

BM

i think it's most likely that Alisae is town and Titus is scum. Akarin town, Pooky town, Cakez town.

felt very early to make reads on these players, at least mostly town-ones.

id rather

BM

just explain these reads. i think

OWER

prodded them at some point but if they replied, the answer wasnt noticeable enough for me to see it.

(maybe OWER prodded murderkitties instead)

3)

disagreement is not the correct word... more cautiously inquisitive. this town did not have a very cohesive start with everything considered.

4)

why i am upside down you ask?
my nails are lavender D:< not as red as my role PM or as green as what id want to brag they be.

Like look at this post for example
So much words but I don't actually get much from it?

Cakez

, why are you only looking at one of my earliest posts, and one at a time for this?

Yeah, I don't believe your stance here.

It was a random example I could quote a dozen posts from your ISO
Why so defensive?

[Taly]

Shit.

My townreads are generally people who scumread each other.

BM-Flea

Pooky-Reck

Murder-Alisae

with

Gamma/OWER

floating off somewhere.

This gamestate sucks.

p-edit

I'm hard-town on Cakez

Case it.

Then again, I like

Bell/Haschel

but that's 10/16 of the players.

Blitzo/DGB/Titus/Akarin/Cakez/TGP

become PoE...

Unsatisfying.

ISO Groups if I ever have time to complete them

Battle Mage/Pooky/OWER

~

Blitzo/DGB/TGP

~

Akarin/Titus/Cakez

That's half the plist, but at least I can relate

Individual V Hollistic Solve

thoughts together better, and garner some feel of scum.

[Battle Mage]

Taly-

let's just work outside of our respective townpools then. We aren't too far off each other tbh.

i've played 1 game with cakez town, and 1 game with cakez scum. In the nicest possible way, when he was scum he was completely obvscum, and when he was town he was pretty obviously town. As scum he got elimmed on Day 1 for basically trying to run a fake-meta gambit on me (as well as some other things i think). In this game, he's giving believable pro-town takes and coming across much more natural. I think cakez is sweet.

[Battle Mage]

i'm on board

VOTE: blitzo

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What does this even mean

Spoiler:

murderkitties

, i like your 563 but i feel like your 365 went a bit hard onto a slot relatively early for the games pace

how has your

cakez

read progressed?

TAAAALLLLLYYYYYYYY!
1) How are you?
2) Who is your worst read at the moment?
3) Is there anything so far you disagree with?
4) Why are you upside down? ( ͜。 ͡ʖ ͜。)

1)

good, bout to get to college work, need to stop letting mafia distract haha

2)

no particular scumreads... need to reread

TGP

because they did not pass the vibe check.

alisae

passed the vibe check but not yet the deepwolf check. i think you are quite fluffy even with your wall, tbh - i want more concrete statements from you.

pooky

feels agenda-y but that doesnt ping me by itself.
i think the amount of times

reck

comes into this thread only to say

"i wont read and i denounce the threads mentality"

is genuine BUT is being used deflectively.
actually did not care for this readslist from

BM

i think it's most likely that Alisae is town and Titus is scum. Akarin town, Pooky town, Cakez town.

felt very early to make reads on these players, at least mostly town-ones.

id rather

BM

just explain these reads. i think

OWER

prodded them at some point but if they replied, the answer wasnt noticeable enough for me to see it.

(maybe OWER prodded murderkitties instead)

3)

disagreement is not the correct word... more cautiously inquisitive. this town did not have a very cohesive start with everything considered.

4)

why i am upside down you ask?
my nails are lavender D:< not as red as my role PM or as green as what id want to brag they be.

Like look at this post for example
So much words but I don't actually get much from it?

Cakez

, why are you only looking at one of my earliest posts, and one at a time for this?

Yeah, I don't believe your stance here.

It was a random example I could quote a dozen posts from your ISO
Why so defensive?

she's saying it was a 'naked' vote. I can't explain the kisses though.

[Taly]

Taly-

let's just work outside of our respective townpools then. We aren't too far off each other tbh.

i've played 1 game with cakez town, and 1 game with cakez scum. In the nicest possible way, when he was scum he was completely obvscum, and when he was town he was pretty obviously town. As scum he got elimmed on Day 1 for basically trying to run a fake-meta gambit on me (as well as some other things i think). In this game, he's giving believable pro-town takes and coming across much more natural. I think cakez is sweet.

Can you link the games? Is this your only reason for

Cakez

town?

By your logic,

Cakez

would be town to me because I do like his consistency with the

no lim

option.
I feel like scum would likelier go for the no lim option as a unit/group and/or they did not feel control of the gamestate to create a town lim.

I want to talk about the context

Titus'

vote there but

Cakez

and

You

are both consistent with your takes of this as you agreed with

Ali/Pooky's

mechanical ideas moreso publicly than others.

The reason why I'm not no-limming is because I agree with

Alisae

, it's not a decision to make until EoD1.

holy shit

BM

you just figured out how to get me to spew.

[Taly]

let's just work outside of our respective townpools then. We aren't too far off each other tbh.

Where do we agree and where do we disagree?

Flea/Haschel

are probably my most loose townreads at the moment because I don't like the angle

Flea

pushes here and

Haschel

is quite elusive and I feel that's plausible for scum more often than town in games of this velocity.

I think

DGB/Reck

are very good slots to look at WITH them because

DGB

feels like a parrot to

Flea

without the wallposting and

Reck

for reasons

Murder

mentioned in 1309