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[MathBlade]

lol Math come on

I'm an odd-night Doc, so I was out and about on Night 1. And I'll be protecting our neapolitan tonight.

Now with that out when did you switch to scumreading Flavor?

[Battle Mage]

if OutworldER is scum, he has experienced teammates. Would probably imply at least 1 of Titus/Flavor Leaf as scum too.

Lol thanks Titus, I'd forgotten that! I had this thing nailed at the start of Day 2!

[Battle Mage]

lol Math come on

I'm an odd-night Doc, so I was out and about on Night 1. And I'll be protecting our neapolitan tonight.

Now with that out when did you switch to scumreading Flavor?

lol no idea dude, go back and read it.

i protected FL night 1 because I figured he was the strongest player and most likely NK if town.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Mathblade - Me going after you in this gamestate loses all gamestate control if I were scum here. You said I strategize and that kind of stuff, but it only seems like you care about that when it's convenient to push me, and never to defend.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm surprised we haven't gotten pushed as a scum team yet, BM.

[MathBlade]

Vote Count 1.FINAL

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

benhalkum

(7): Alchemist21, Flavor Leaf, superbowl9, Titus, NoPowerOverMe, benhalkum, OutWorldER |

ELIMINATED

Titus

(2): Non lmh, hessian

superbowl9

(2): Rannygazoo, Andresvmb

NoPowerOverMe

(1): Battle Mage

Not Voting

(1): wiyvern

Mod notes:

I am using Thesp's automated votecounter - please notify me if there are any errors.
hessian is V/LA until Sunday.
wiyvern will be prodded in the night. if they do not respond, they risk being replaced.

@Titus

Assume NPOM and BM are scum. Why is BM on NPOM?

[Flavor Leaf]

Alchemist is probably scum bussing NPOM, which is why they only pop in every now and then, and isn't actually helping push.

He might also be TMI'ing me as town.

[MathBlade]

Alchemist is probably scum bussing NPOM, which is why they only pop in every now and then, and isn't actually helping push.

He might also be TMI'ing me as town.

That might be the one thing we agree on.

But see I want Titus’s opinion.

@Titus why are you not voting NPOM?

[Flavor Leaf]

I wasn't answering your question, I was putting my own thought out there.

I'm not stopping Titus from answering, she will answer when she sees the post. My thought was completely separate from the post you made even.

[Titus]

Vote Count 1.FINAL

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

benhalkum

(7): Alchemist21, Flavor Leaf, superbowl9, Titus, NoPowerOverMe, benhalkum, OutWorldER |

ELIMINATED

Titus

(2): Non lmh, hessian

superbowl9

(2): Rannygazoo, Andresvmb

NoPowerOverMe

(1): Battle Mage

Not Voting

(1): wiyvern

Mod notes:

I am using Thesp's automated votecounter - please notify me if there are any errors.
hessian is V/LA until Sunday.
wiyvern will be prodded in the night. if they do not respond, they risk being replaced.

@Titus

Assume NPOM and BM are scum. Why is BM on NPOM?

Give me a second. This will require a wall because a vote at EoD doesn't say much about either alignment. I think it needs to be explained more thoroughly how scum!BM ends up on scum!NPOM at EoD1. It's something that could happen but that's a weakass response.

[MathBlade]

I am trying to figure out the odds of two scum claiming VT and then PR.

It seems incredibly not smart/coached

[Flavor Leaf]

I think NPOM got caught, and Battle Mage is covering.

[Flavor Leaf]

Here's the thing, if Outer dies, and flips town, I still am gonna get pushed as scum.

BM and NPOM probably go down, then it's a 50/50 between Alch and No Elim, but that leaves room for possible TitusScum, which I don't think is the case here, or I'd be dead by now.

[MathBlade]

Pretty much I am thinking if BM is scum it’s NPOM+BM+FL/Titus here

This reeks of coaching. If BM is scum he doesn’t come up with a fake claim like that to try to convince people outer is scum. He does that because he’s told to.

[Titus]

Vote Count 1.3

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Rannygazoo

(4): Titus, NoPowerOverMe, Alchemist21, superbowl9 |

L-3

Titus

(2): Battle Mage, Non lmh

superbowl9

(2): Rannygazoo, Andresvmb

benhalkum

(1): OutWorldER

Not Voting

(4): wiyvern, Flavor Leaf, hessian, benhalkum

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-03 17:23:44).

Mod notes:

If you would like a 4 day extension due to Thanksgiving please let me know. I am using Thesp's automated votecounter - please notify me if there are any errors.
hessian is V/LA until Sunday.

Vote Count 1.4

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Rannygazoo

(4): Titus, NoPowerOverMe, Alchemist21, superbowl9

Titus

(2): Non lmh, hessian

superbowl9

(2): Rannygazoo, Andresvmb

NoPowerOverMe

(1): Battle Mage

Not Voting

(4): wiyvern, Flavor Leaf, benhalkum, OutWorldER

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-07 17:23:44).

Mod notes:

If you would like a 4 day extension due to Thanksgiving please let me know. I am using Thesp's automated votecounter - please notify me if there are any errors.
hessian is V/LA until Sunday.

This is the origin of the vote by Battle Mage. Here, we have a bunch of town driven wagons on town. So scum don't need to do anything. Scum can't really justify putting another vote on Ranny. That would be two votes out of five when they have other wagons to choose from.

Battle Mage removes his vote on me for two reasons, 1) Ranny being town means he doesn't want me too far discredited and 2) if I am right, hessian's vote makes it overloaded. One is sufficient in and of itself.

The question is where does BM put his vote? Given that all the wagons were on town, doing a throw a way distance is not a bad idea.

After Ben imploded, BM didn't have time to but likely would not have moved his vote.

[Battle Mage]

I am trying to figure out the odds of two scum claiming VT and then PR.

It seems incredibly not smart/coached

eh, claiming vanilla was a no-brainer for me because:

A. I've gone over 30 consecutive games without being mis-elimmed so I figured I'm likely only dying by NK here anyway.
B. Actually claiming my role just means I die anyway, so isn't particularly useful.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why are you cutting out Alchemist?

He got nommed for Don Corleone last year.

[Battle Mage]

I think NPOM got caught, and Battle Mage is covering.

lol there's no equity in that, I'd be better off bussing and getting a mis-elim the following day using my sweet obvtownness

[Flavor Leaf]

I think NPOM got caught, and Battle Mage is covering.

lol there's no equity in that, I'd be better off bussing and getting a mis-elim the following day using my sweet obvtownness

why? I disagree, I think if NPOM survives this day phase, scum probably win.

[Titus]

I think NPOM got caught, and Battle Mage is covering.

lol there's no equity in that, I'd be better off bussing and getting a mis-elim the following day using my sweet obvtownness

Too late. You were all in when you voted Outworlder and needed an explanation for that vote.

[Battle Mage]

Pretty much I am thinking if BM is scum it’s NPOM+BM+FL/Titus here

This reeks of coaching. If BM is scum he doesn’t come up with a fake claim like that to try to convince people outer is scum. He does that because he’s told to.

Spoiler:

i'm town

[Battle Mage]

lol Titus' bad faith takes

[MathBlade]

Why are you cutting out Alchemist?

He got nommed for Don Corleone last year.

Alchemist wasn’t posting at the time and the claim is very reactive and up to date and much more a you or Titus thing.

This game has hallmark manipulations of one of you being scum.

You’d have to argue Alchemist specifically shot Johnny to get you to tunnel and that’s a stretch.

I have to work but

UNVOTE:

As the vote I did achieved what I wanted and got some teams to build.

[Flavor Leaf]

How is that a stretch? I already have stated that Johnny was likely a frame kill, and Alchemist legit knows me the best in this game. He even knows my weakness to scum is getting pocketed.

[TheGoldenParadox]

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