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Post Post #4075 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:06 am

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I don't think killing Noraa-slot is really what I would call low info.

Killing a newly-replaced-in secret alt who's a potential wildcard, maybe.
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Post Post #4076 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:06 am

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In post 4069, midwaybear wrote:
In post 4062, petapan wrote:midwaybaer what are your reads right now

i'm breaking my self-imposed post restriction to do this to you
Mostly the same as my read list from yesterday. I don’t really scumread anyone though which is a little disappointing. Wondering why TENET was killed.
In post 3152, midwaybear wrote:Deacon superbowl
Flavor Leaf(?) Noraa(?)
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Hmm I don't feel super good about this. Maybe one scum in second/third tier idk
Deacon and superbowl don't need too much explanation. superbowl scumcasing a general LHF in Gamma seems townie?
I think Flavor is slightly townie for using ":/" in reaction to me shading him. I feel like he would be more lighthearted about that as scum. Noraa is well... I guess she can live for now.
Firebringer has been making solid posts. I have him a bit lower because his playstyle makes me naturally paranoid. I'm wondering why he doesn't want to get turnstiled anymore? Gamma's rage feels pretty real, but I'm not sure how alignment indicative it is. Pretty much just sheeping Deacon on Dandelion. My personal read there is null.
My personal read on skitter is slightly townie, but I guess I'll trust the crowd? Everyone else I don't really townread either.
okay, let's talk about this. why is deacon at the top? why is LLD at the bottom?

are you really that surprised by the tenet kill? we were just in a game where we shot a replacement night 1 as scum
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Post Post #4077 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:07 am

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Or maybe they thought the replace-out spewed the slot as town.
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Post Post #4078 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:07 am

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In post 4075, Something_Smart wrote:I don't think killing Noraa-slot is really what I would call low info.

Killing a newly-replaced-in secret alt who's a potential wildcard, maybe.
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Post Post #4079 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:07 am

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In post 4073, skitter30 wrote:Yeah that points to scum in the influences and/or widely townread ppl
You made this same point in your first post of the game day.

I thought it looked pretty facile!

When bork and I saw the reverse NK, we figured scum wanted to paint this picture.
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Post Post #4080 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:08 am

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Yeah, I think I agree. If it was a scum kill, scum think they're in a good spot.

Since the two people receiving the most pressure are now both decent townreads for me, that interpretation is pretty plausible.
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Post Post #4081 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:09 am

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In post 4074, Deacon Blues wrote:
In post 4067, skitter30 wrote:Fwiw i actually think he's less genuine here than there @ss

Pooky i do think eod was ++scum
Who besides us are you scumreading?
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Post Post #4082 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:09 am

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replacement kill doesn't necessarily point to townread players being scum. it simply means that scum likely weren't feeling significant pressure in this thread on day 1. that can be townreads or people who were less active but not getting voted.
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Post Post #4083 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:10 am

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In post 4076, petapan wrote:okay, let's talk about this. why is deacon at the top? why is LLD at the bottom?

are you really that surprised by the tenet kill? we were just in a game where we shot a replacement night 1 as scum
Deacon's entrance seemed townie aka the way they reached out to everyone. I would expect them to be more go-with-the flow as scum. LLD hasn't pinged town yet, but it is all relative.
Yeah, I'm surprised by the kill. I expect I would have been surprised in 2180 too if I was town there.
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Post Post #4084 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:10 am

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alternately pooky killed it because he thought it was hectic
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Post Post #4085 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:11 am

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That's sort of a meme kill and would still point towards scum being in a good spot.
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Post Post #4086 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:11 am

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In post 4080, Something_Smart wrote:Yeah, I think I agree. If it was a scum kill, scum think they're in a good spot.

Since the two people receiving the most pressure are now both decent townreads for me, that interpretation is pretty plausible.
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Post Post #4087 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:11 am

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Scum dont make that kill without feeling like they're in a good spot
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Post Post #4088 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:11 am

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In post 4085, midwaybear wrote:That's sort of a meme kill and would still point towards scum being in a good spot.
as other said, not really a meme kill when u have a replacement wild card, and it does indicate scum in the wide townreads.
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Post Post #4089 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:12 am

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In post 4083, midwaybear wrote:
In post 4076, petapan wrote:okay, let's talk about this. why is deacon at the top? why is LLD at the bottom?

are you really that surprised by the tenet kill? we were just in a game where we shot a replacement night 1 as scum
Deacon's entrance seemed townie aka the way they reached out to everyone. I would expect them to be more go-with-the flow as scum. LLD hasn't pinged town yet, but it is all relative.
Yeah, I'm surprised by the kill. I expect I would have been surprised in 2180 too if I was town there.
just the entrance? i feel like that'd be an easy post to make as either alignment. what about the rest of their content?

again why exactly were you willing to vote FL yesterday despite him being high up in your reads list?
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Post Post #4090 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:12 am

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UNVOTE: midwaybear

i think midway is definitely overacting this "ohh its a weird kill guys" bit.
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Post Post #4091 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:13 am

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No, I mean peta's theory that scum!Pooky killed the alt because he thought it was Hectic. You only make that kill as a joke and when you are in the position to do things like that.
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Post Post #4092 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:13 am

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petapan doing tlaloc's work.
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Post Post #4093 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:13 am

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In post 4079, Deacon Blues wrote:When bork and I saw the reverse NK, we figured scum wanted to paint this picture.
I mean, if that's why you made the NK, well I would welcome your elaboration :P

Otherwise, that theory seems like a bolt from the blue. Why would killing Tenet, whose death could be explained any number of ways, work for this purpose better than killing someone like me? (That aside from the fact that kills of this nature are pretty rare in my experience.)
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Post Post #4094 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:14 am

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Post Post #4095 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:14 am

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In post 4084, petapan wrote:alternately pooky killed it because he thought it was hectic
Or anyone else who knows Hectic did that? Why Pooky specifically?
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Post Post #4096 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:15 am

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In post 4094, SirCakez wrote:
In post 4032, Firebringer wrote:UNVOTE: pooky
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Pooky is in this timestream wtf
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Post Post #4097 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:15 am

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In post 4086, Deacon Blues wrote:who were you replying to here?
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Post Post #4098 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:15 am

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In post 4089, petapan wrote:just the entrance? i feel like that'd be an easy post to make as either alignment. what about the rest of their content?

again why exactly were you willing to vote FL yesterday despite him being high up in your reads list?
I haven't really been paying super close attention to their posts, but I do think they passed off a decent vibe D1. I will read their posts start of today.
About Flavor, it really was Flavor Fever as he says. I thought he was openwolving a bit with the skitter push, and Pooky's vote was a sort of spark.
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Post Post #4099 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:17 am

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In post 4098, midwaybear wrote:
In post 4089, petapan wrote:just the entrance? i feel like that'd be an easy post to make as either alignment. what about the rest of their content?

again why exactly were you willing to vote FL yesterday despite him being high up in your reads list?
I haven't really been paying super close attention to their posts, but I do think they passed off a decent vibe D1. I will read their posts start of today.
About Flavor, it really was Flavor Fever as he says. I thought he was openwolving a bit with the skitter push, and Pooky's vote was a sort of spark.
why do you say that, when skitter was low on your reads list as well? why did you ask this?
In post 3296, midwaybear wrote:I do want us to come to some kind of consensus on skitter sometime soon too.
where did you start distrusting his push on skitter?
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