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[petapan]

lld your reads feel p different than mine but i'm not sure that scum!you has those reads

why wouldn't she?

3/10

[midwaybear]

Don't really think he would be thinking that as scum

[Lady Lambdadelta]

lld your reads feel p different than mine but i'm not sure that scum!you has those reads

why wouldn't she?

3/10

echoing this question

[Lady Lambdadelta]

those reads don't really track with people i'd expect to be using apathy as a scum tool

i'm not sure how cabd and ceph having different reactions to a fake dayvig makes them town? like those would be their reactions regardless of alignment i'd think (not that i really suspect them anyway, but that's because of other things)

midwaybear has the occasional sketchy post but then says something that looks okay. maybe it's because he's not feeling pressure, i don't know. he can make posts that seem scummy as town but hasn't been stiff as a board so don't really want to kill him

my options have been kill pooky or sheep cabd because that's usually a good idea

2/10

who do you think would be/is using apathy as a scum tool here then?

[Almost50]

Still think annie edison is not town

She is. Trust me

[skitter30]

lld your reads feel p different than mine but i'm not sure that scum!you has those reads

why wouldn't she?

3/10

they're not useful 'reads' to have - they're counter enough to most of what the thread is thinking that if she'd try to actualize a flip on one of those people she'd have a hard time

[skitter30]

hi a50

[skitter30]

Titus and unwnd caught lld like ages ago and they were summarily ignored. skitter's townread of lld makes no sense and if skitter is town she has like 0% readrate on this thread and at this point I'm pretty confident she's open wolfing now. I don't see how either slot is still alive. But other thread sure wants to poke fun at this thread being hard to solve lol

-E

oh look, more baseless shade from my topscumread

[Lady Lambdadelta]

lld your reads feel p different than mine but i'm not sure that scum!you has those reads

why wouldn't she?

3/10

they're not useful 'reads' to have - they're counter enough to most of what the thread is thinking that if she'd try to actualize a flip on one of those people she'd have a hard time

Wouldn't that be ideal for where I'd want to be if I was scum?

Like, pushing on reads that are counter to the thread logic so none of my reads ever actually flip but I get to take shots for free and make content forever?

Like, I don't really get why THAT is why you think I'm town.

Now, mind you, I'd love to be given the opportunity to flip some of my fucking reads and prove I am town, but no the position you described sounds kind of perfect for a scum person to be in.

[skitter30]

that's not the main reason for the townread, more just a part of it. i kinda disagree that that's a good place for scum to inherently be tho

[Lady Lambdadelta]

HP suddenly coming on strong in the other thread to settle in on a person who isn't dying today is a similar position btw.

Like HP calling me scum the way they are there is super scummy because I'm not dying today, they're not in my thread to vote me, and there's not a lot of value in the statement. Emtpy calories that look like hard hitting comments.

Infact, does HP even have strong reads from their own thread? They seem to be hitting Skitter and I up a lot there and that thread is p. stalled for a thread with so few people and scum to find.

[skitter30]

i've only been calling hp scum for like 150 pages now, sigh

[petapan]

those reads don't really track with people i'd expect to be using apathy as a scum tool

i'm not sure how cabd and ceph having different reactions to a fake dayvig makes them town? like those would be their reactions regardless of alignment i'd think (not that i really suspect them anyway, but that's because of other things)

midwaybear has the occasional sketchy post but then says something that looks okay. maybe it's because he's not feeling pressure, i don't know. he can make posts that seem scummy as town but hasn't been stiff as a board so don't really want to kill him

my options have been kill pooky or sheep cabd because that's usually a good idea

2/10

who do you think would be/is using apathy as a scum tool here then?

i don't know, i haven't been thinking of the game that way, the answer was just "not midwaybear or fferybork", at least not intentionally. i guess not out of the realm of possibility that they'd go with the flow in the sort of situation we're in, but like...you and cabd are the two people i've seen talk about using that as an actual tactic, lol

lld your reads feel p different than mine but i'm not sure that scum!you has those reads

why wouldn't she?

3/10

they're not useful 'reads' to have - they're counter enough to most of what the thread is thinking that if she'd try to actualize a flip on one of those people she'd have a hard time

i, uh...do you think lld would avoid having contrarian reads as scum? because there's an obvious benefit to that sort of thing if the town is on the wrong track anyway

[skitter30]

i feel like she'd be trying more to set up useful flips and those reads don't really help with that

[Lady Lambdadelta]

those reads don't really track with people i'd expect to be using apathy as a scum tool

i'm not sure how cabd and ceph having different reactions to a fake dayvig makes them town? like those would be their reactions regardless of alignment i'd think (not that i really suspect them anyway, but that's because of other things)

midwaybear has the occasional sketchy post but then says something that looks okay. maybe it's because he's not feeling pressure, i don't know. he can make posts that seem scummy as town but hasn't been stiff as a board so don't really want to kill him

my options have been kill pooky or sheep cabd because that's usually a good idea

2/10

who do you think would be/is using apathy as a scum tool here then?

i don't know, i haven't been thinking of the game that way, the answer was just "not midwaybear or fferybork", at least not intentionally. i guess not out of the realm of possibility that they'd go with the flow in the sort of situation we're in, but like...you and cabd are the two people i've seen talk about using that as an actual tactic, lol

lld your reads feel p different than mine but i'm not sure that scum!you has those reads

why wouldn't she?

3/10

they're not useful 'reads' to have - they're counter enough to most of what the thread is thinking that if she'd try to actualize a flip on one of those people she'd have a hard time

i, uh...do you think lld would avoid having contrarian reads as scum? because there's an obvious benefit to that sort of thing if the town is on the wrong track anyway

I mean yeah I wrote a whole article on how to do it, but also I think you can make a strong argument I've been the perpetuator of the opposite of apathy in this thread tbqh.

Also, yeah, no I don't get that logic either. I would in a heart beat select a single person who looks scummy enoguh to push endlessly and townie enough not to die and just death tunnel them to day 5, then flip on them.

Which is why I find people who find my scumread on Deacon weird, weird. Deacon is not easy to push at, is not somethign you can get good towncred from doing, and in HP's own words "is blinding town" to a lot of players.

I don't see that, so I'm pushing it, but pushing it is giving me no credit or survivability, let me tell you.

Which is why I am having real doubts about HP.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Bell if you really think I try to talk a tvt down day 1 past an ic as scum you have a very optimistic sense of my scumrange. I thank you for the compliment. Like I know tmi is a thing but the idea I push back against shelly scum in the manner I did as scum white knighting town, while also being right about boon, is suggesting you think I am playing to be a deepwolf when I think literally everything else about my play strongly suggests that is not something that happens in the real world. Like I appreciate the paranoia, I take it as a compliment, but the actually hard thing is sorting muffin/gx more confidently. please help lol. Or convincing me I'm wrong on brian somehow even though I have no actual interest in second-guessing that read atm

Like brian is nearly consensus poe, I say I have him as hard town and he gets worried I'm buddying him. How does brian stay in this thread after d3 as scum if he refuses to take a single townread? His reaction to my towncase is as town as my other reasons for towning him. What do people dislike about his play?

-E

Like look at this post.

How can this hydra be so confident and powerful about our thread and shit, but then turn around and go "oh please help me sort these reads over here I'm ever so helpless and confused."

Like this feels like a huge fucking act to maintain distance from whatever vote happens over there today.

Which makes me think Muffin ANd Gypyx are town, tbh.

[petapan]

HP suddenly coming on strong in the other thread to settle in on a person who isn't dying today is a similar position btw.

Like HP calling me scum the way they are there is super scummy because I'm not dying today, they're not in my thread to vote me, and there's not a lot of value in the statement. Emtpy calories that look like hard hitting comments.

Infact, does HP even have strong reads from their own thread? They seem to be hitting Skitter and I up a lot there and that thread is p. stalled for a thread with so few people and scum to find.

afaik they have actively shaded me, you, skitter, sb9, ceph, probably a few other people as well

i feel like she'd be trying more to set up useful flips and those reads don't really help with that

she could probably set up those flips, i don't find this reasoning useful but don't know that we get anything further out of continuing to argue it

5/10

[Lady Lambdadelta]

HP suddenly coming on strong in the other thread to settle in on a person who isn't dying today is a similar position btw.

Like HP calling me scum the way they are there is super scummy because I'm not dying today, they're not in my thread to vote me, and there's not a lot of value in the statement. Emtpy calories that look like hard hitting comments.

Infact, does HP even have strong reads from their own thread? They seem to be hitting Skitter and I up a lot there and that thread is p. stalled for a thread with so few people and scum to find.

afaik they have actively shaded me, you, skitter, sb9, ceph, probably a few other people as well

i feel like she'd be trying more to set up useful flips and those reads don't really help with that

she could probably set up those flips, i don't find this reasoning useful but don't know that we get anything further out of continuing to argue it

5/10

Yeah it sure sounds like HP's whole thing this game is hard reads on the opposite thread, soft reads on their own thread.

And that's a scum strategy. 1000000%.

[petapan]

I feel like almost every player that has been run up in either thread is someone that has called SB9 scum

reverse timestream power should be on that slot

remember this mega dogshit post?

[Almost50]

hi a50

I was gonna say "what do you think of my read list?" and I went back to quote it... only.. it doesn't exist!

I basically thought I had amended it to 4979, but I either did in a different window that I accidentally closed (one of the, windows I opened to quote the posts I did), or I did it in my word file and then didn't copy & paste.

Anyway, it looked something like:

Deacon Blues (fferyllt/borkjerfkin)
Petapan
Dandelion Wine (Cephrir/Cabd)

skitter30
Firebringer
PookyTheMagicalBear
GFITAC (Gamma Emerald/Dr Easy Bake)

superbowl9
midwaybear
Something_Smart
Pisskop*
Lady Lambdadelta

And I remember noting that it was mostly hearsay (i.e. based on Brian & Annie's reads) with the exception of my own read on skitter.

Obviously I didn't factor in Tammy/Nacho's reads either, so maybe bump up superbowl/midwaybear a little. I also recall myself thinking (and typing) that I thought it weird neither of Brian/Annie made a mention of midwaybear

I finally asked EVERYONE to tell me why <insert player name> should've been placed higher/lower

[Something_Smart]

UNVOTE: skitter

[Lady Lambdadelta]

hi a50

I was gonna say "what do you think of my read list?" and I went back to quote it... only.. it doesn't exist!

I basically thought I had amended it to 4979, but I either did in a different window that I accidentally closed (one of the, windows I opened to quote the posts I did), or I did it in my word file and then didn't copy & paste.

Anyway, it looked something like:

Deacon Blues (fferyllt/borkjerfkin)
Petapan
Dandelion Wine (Cephrir/Cabd)

skitter30
Firebringer
PookyTheMagicalBear
GFITAC (Gamma Emerald/Dr Easy Bake)

superbowl9
midwaybear
Something_Smart
Pisskop*
Lady Lambdadelta

And I remember noting that it was mostly hearsay (i.e. based on Brian & Annie's reads) with the exception of my own read on skitter.

Obviously I didn't factor in Tammy/Nacho's reads either, so maybe bump up superbowl/midwaybear a little. I also recall myself thinking (and typing) that I thought it weird neither of Brian/Annie made a mention of midwaybear

I finally asked EVERYONE to tell me why <insert player name> should've been placed higher/lower

K, you're scum.

Anyone who wants to test me and my reads today, wanna kill this scumbag?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote: A50

[skitter30]

Also, yeah, no I don't get that logic either. I would in a heart beat select a single person who looks scummy enoguh to push endlessly and townie enough not to die and just death tunnel them to day 5, then flip on them.

right, but my point is that you're not. those reads would be helpful as scum if you were actually doing that with them *but you're not* that's the key bit

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yo Peta.

Wanna come kill A50 with me today?