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[Firebringer]

one of dandelion and deacon has to be scum, right?

I don't see a way they arent.

I am so incredibly certain that dandelion is town. I reserve the right to have a paranoid meltdown because it is day 3 after all, but every sane neuron in my brain says they're town.

I think ur the town ones now so better prepare for the paranoid meltdown

[Firebringer]

Good night skitter!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

In the morning. Night lld

I'll look forward to reading that tomorrow then.

Don't forget! I won't.

[Firebringer]

If i had a gun to my head right now asked to name scum on this side i would probably say: dandelion, skitter, midwaybear, and maybe almost50

[Firebringer]

Brian really did a number on other thread from turning everyones universal townread on Titus slot into a scum read slot and then us lynching SS here.
Like im still baffled at what transpired yesterday. I now know how imperium felt when we lynched Flavor leaf.

[petapan]

But here's a question for you: Do you think that the SB9-LLD interaction from day 1 was S-S?

Is that your current stance?

i think it's plausible

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But here's a question for you: Do you think that the SB9-LLD interaction from day 1 was S-S?

Is that your current stance?

i think it's plausible

That's pretty wishy washy.

I want you to elaborate on that. Like, right now you're calling SB9 your most confident scum, right? am I wrong about that?

and so I'm asking, for you to really nail this down for me. If it's plausible, in what way?

[Deacon Blues]

If i had a gun to my head right now asked to name scum on this side i would probably say: dandelion, skitter, midwaybear, and maybe almost50

You've maaaaaaaaaaaybe named one scum in that group IMO.

[Firebringer]

If i had a gun to my head right now asked to name scum on this side i would probably say: dandelion, skitter, midwaybear, and maybe almost50

You've maaaaaaaaaaaybe named one scum in that group IMO.

I would have named 2 but didn't feel like adding my name

[Lady Lambdadelta]

anyway I'm having some dissociation so i might get high and call it a night.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Dunn, I see you wrt pooky and it's on the list.

Trust.

Anyone got anything before I slip into weed edibles

[Firebringer]

LLD do u scumread pooky?

I don't feel it anymore and i don't know if it has to do with his affable nature getting to me.

[petapan]

But here's a question for you: Do you think that the SB9-LLD interaction from day 1 was S-S?

Is that your current stance?

i think it's plausible

That's pretty wishy washy.

I want you to elaborate on that. Like, right now you're calling SB9 your most confident scum, right? am I wrong about that?

and so I'm asking, for you to really nail this down for me. If it's plausible, in what way?

yeah.

what do you mean in what way? that you'd stage a fight with your teammate early day 1 to get townread? because yeah you'd do that

but even independtly i just don't townread you as much as other people

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD do u scumread pooky?

I don't feel it anymore and i don't know if it has to do with his affable nature getting to me.

I consider myself the person most comfortable with Pooky in this game.

Day 1 I would have bet a lot he was scum.

Day 2 I wanted to give him space to prove me wrong cause the demotivation was super weird for him. He made a semi decent post and I had better things I think needed to be dead.

As of right now I lean town, but I am going to be spending a lot of time grilling pooky today to nail it down.

Give me until I get time with pooky and I'll be more definite.

[Deacon Blues]

It’s more effective if I can quote stripe it but

A) Cabd is in that list ffery spoke of early on that would LOVE to have the feather in his cap of snowing her in a pt
B) I still feel like bell is town and I feel like Cabd is almost trying to isolate Ffery from us? Like encouraging her paranoia?
C) continuing off b, I hated how yesterday he went and brought up how his read on me was dropping WHILE OUR THREAD WAS LOCKED and then like 4 pages later went “well I wish this came up while the other thread was unlocked” because that was sketchy as fuck.
D) how the fuck can’t he see bell is town

feel like most of this stuff is either hypothetical or also applies to ffery (esp wrt bell and her read on you) but you haven't batted an eye on our slot

[petapan]

annies probably town just from reading the tracker

also sb9 is practically openwolfing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am ready to be grilled and pressed into a sandwich please be gentle.

[Deacon Blues]

annies probably town just from reading the tracker

also sb9 is practically openwolfing

yep. forwards thread need to be pressuring him.

our bad for giving him turnstile access. Mie scuse

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

UNVOTE: skitter
UNVOTE: LLD
UNVOTE: Pooky
Still not sure on Pooky. I need to look at his reads again.

this is so weird

why skitter and LLD?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think there's a decent chance scum!lld brought up the whole idea to turnstile town!ss to get the free misflip

but the default was like SS getting elimed today if I remember which direction the thread was going when she brought it up? was she the first one to bring it up?

Like I don't see the point of scum giving up a mis-elim target especially in a cramped game where everyone is feeling very townie?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

did a quick skim through of this game that just ended:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85074

Peta/Mwb/Ico scum team stomped the town and their play looks nothing like what's going on in this game

Though it could be that Peta and Mwb just had like 0 respect for the town in the game so they both decided to straight up open wolf their way thru the entire game balls out.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

did a quick skim through of this game that just ended:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85074

Peta/Mwb/Ico scum team stomped the town and their play looks nothing like what's going on in this game

Though it could be that Peta and Mwb just had like 0 respect for the town in the game so they both decided to straight up open wolf their way thru the entire game balls out.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

LLD do u scumread pooky?

I don't feel it anymore and i don't know if it has to do with his affable nature getting to me.

i can to 100% toxic tryhard but it wont be pleasant for anyone and i kind of am trying to turn over a nicer leaf.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Bell

Inverse thread was looking to elim pooky yesterday and then it swerved onto pisskop. You guys should almost certainly elim pooky today and examine what happened yesterday.

@Peta why superbowl9? I'd feel better getting Bell instead of letting him get away again.

I had a really angry response to this written out but for the sake of avoiding thread toxicity I have shortened it to:

No Stop Being Bad

[skitter30]

Okay, so another empty post from the person who has no real ammo to hit me with, so is hitting the "well scum would prefer to send SS over".

Sure let's just ignore the fact you can't even defend your own argument, which says a lot about it's veracity, and move on to something else.

You think I'm scum with Firebringer here? What are some other reasons you scum read us, that don't involve us scumreading you?

Ok i'm going to take a step back and explain a lot of how i form scumreads. Basically, one thing that i do is look at key moments of the game, figure out where scum are likely to be positioned in the abstract based on the gamestate in that moment in time, and then look for the people who have those positions. That forms a p decent shortlist that usually contains scum. Town also show up, sure - these actions arent *exclusively* likely to come from scum. The trick is that they're *more likely to come from scum than town*, and by focusing your attentions on this shortlist, you're p likely to hit a scum.

In otherwords, what all this means to me is the fact that there's potential town motivation is not super important. What is important is the fact that i think scum are overwhelmingly to take said positions, so if we focus on those people, we'l find scum. There might be a miss or two, but there will, quite simply, be scum in that group of people doing those things.

In this game, a key momement is the fact that i think scum are ridiculously likely to want to try to grab a free miselim if possible. There are multiple indicators that they feel they're in a cushy position, and that things are going well for them - why not try to capitalize on that and get that nice easy free ss misflip? Putting all of this together, this means that we need to look for people who wanted and pushed for turnstiling ss over, and in my mind, you were the catalyst for that happening

I dont know if i inherently think you and fire are partners (although your posts in the past couple of pages do in fact point in that direction), but i scumread you both independantly

You largely for this. I also think the whole 'well i think gamma may have died protecting me' bit you just did was fake because i cant imagine scum choosing to nk you in that position

Fire i think there are very, very few reasons to townread + i think him being scum would help explain scum feeling like they were in a good position going into n1