Micro 991: Names on the List [game over!]

[Datisi]

Vote count 2.04

with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-01-12 15:30:00).

execution

clidd [2]:

DkKoba, Ahsoka

Amélie [1]:

Not_Mafia

DkKoba [1]:

Gimli son of Glóin

Not_Mafia [1]:

Raya36

Gimli son of Glóin [1]:

Infinity 324

Publish the List! [0]:

Not Voting [2]:

Amélie, clidd

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[Infinity 324]

I don't really care if it's helping my read on you. A bunch of people claimed to suspect gimli, let's see if they follow up.

Before you were open to reconsidering your read on gimli, now you don't seem to be. Why not? It feels like the paranoia was never real to begin with.

[clidd]

His reactions and opinions about my progression in the last pages cleared up my inner doubt.

I don't think it makes sense for you to act with ignorance in relation to this.

VOTE: Infinity 324

[Infinity 324]

I just don't get where/how that progression happened.

[clidd]

Koba what if I told you I'm town and gimli is scum

From the moment you entered the game, this read never changed.

I do not understand the certainty here.

[clidd]

It seems to me that you decided that the slot is scum and then interpreted all his posts from that conclusion.

[Infinity 324]

Gimli's play hasn't changed much, and neither has my feeling around it. As I said before, my d1 scumreads tend to be accurate, so I like to hold onto them unless something major happens to change my read

[Raya36]

still think clidd is way too complacent lmfao

VOTE: clidd
fuck it
gut read from d1

I was hesitant to consider Dk scum by PoE, because I'm not scumreading the slot, but when I reflect on their reasons for suspecting me, they don't seem congruent with the various scummy things I said and did. He did not mention at any time the inconsistencies that Ahsoka pointed out, for example. Which makes me think that town!Dk would have jumped at me with 1001 reasons a long time ago.

Scumreading me because of gut or '' being complacent'' is very vague and do not make use of the material that town!Dk has available to analyze on me.

I very much agree with this analysis of Koba. Especially since I have seen several of their towngames and they have a very competent town-game.

Amélie scumreading Raya is ''??'' and I'm not sure if I understand her.

But Radja was townreading Raya and perhaps the fact that there is disagreement between predecessor (Radja) and successor (Amélie) is a suggestive indication of the non-existence of a scum PT for scum!Amélie find out about her predecessor's reads before building her own.

pedit: No, stop.

I also agree with this take on Amelie. Another thought I was having was around the scum!agenda of pushing me. I can't think of anything. I don't even think it makes much sense as a towncred push either. Especially considering how she is pushing me. It makes no sense from scum.

Infinity, you are not facilitating my read on you.

It is very unlikely that Gimli is scum. You're pushing town now.

Interesting word choice. Infinity does something scummy, you say he isn't "facilitating" your read on him. Makes it sound like you're trying to townread him rather than read him.

Infinity's points are stronger in this 1v1.

[clidd]

My ''facilitating'' is in the sense of enable.

It is very difficult to read the slot with this push that comes since his arrival.

[clidd]

And I don't think he has any persuasive points that indicate that Gimli is scum individually.

My doubt was the fact that more than 3 slots shared some kind of doubt regarding Gimli, including Lostego (which was eliminated).

[clidd]

The thing is: why?

I see no merit in pushing such kind of narrative from scum!Infinity for so long.

But at the same time, the more I tighten my PoE, the more infinity appears in the scum zone.

Or I can just close my eyes and assume that there is some explanation outside of my vision, while focusing on what I already have in my town pool.

[Raya36]

My ''facilitating'' is in the sense of enable.

It is very difficult to read the slot with this push that comes since his arrival.

Hasn't he been pushing gimli the whole time though? This isn't new?

And I don't think he has any persuasive points that indicate that Gimli is scum individually.

My doubt was the fact that more than 3 slots shared some kind of doubt regarding Gimli, including Lostego (which was eliminated).

Yeah, it at least means that it can't be a push fully driven from scum. I'm honestly not seeing Gimli as scum this game. It's possible I'm wrong but I'm honestly leaning towards the good faith scumreads on gimli being driven by paranoia as Gimli has been a louder player this game.

The thing is: why?

I see no merit in pushing such kind of narrative from scum!Infinity for so long.

But at the same time, the more I tighten my PoE, the more infinity appears in the scum zone.

Or I can just close my eyes and assume that there is some explanation outside of my vision, while focusing on what I already have in my town pool.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time with this as well. It could just be simply wanting to hold consistency but there isn't much motivation I can see.

[clidd]

I would like to see more opinions on Infinity/Dk/NM.

[clidd]

I don't think NM is LHF at all.

[Ahsoka]

Although I believe that you are exaggerating about being top 3, as I see no statistical basis for confirmation.

Anyways, let's move on.

There's a literal statistical confirmation based on the amount of town game I've won/games I've full solved.

[clidd]

Ok, I'll take you word.

[clidd]

I kind of need your help here too, Boon.

I'm feeling that my solve rn is meh. Infinity pushing gimli is meh, NM is meh, Amélie pushing Raya is meh, everything sounds meh.

[Ahsoka]

Fuck it, publish the list.

[Ahsoka]

Your solve fits my POE, so if you are town, it's decently likely

[clidd]

I know, but why am I not feeling confident?

I should be jumping in joy, but I'm not.

[Ahsoka]

We're in a circular wifom.

[Ahsoka]

scum dominate this gamestate so it's always going to feel bad. Scum probably feel bad too right now.

[clidd]

So if I feel insecure about something, it is the effect of the control exercised by the scum influence, not necessarily that I am wrong. Got it.

[clidd]

That's it, I need some sleep.

Thanks for talking with me, anyways.

[Amélie]

Good morning. I need to get ready for work but I will be back to finish reading right after.