One Night Stand [Game Over]

[Alisae]

like honestly how can you expect yourself to be able to get an idea of what happened at a specific moment if you don't have context?

[Alisae]

Your reasoning for scum!clidd is meh.

I'm voting you rn because I think you're scum, period.

Then I'm done with this conversation.

I target a player at night, and if I hit a specific player, I become Lovers with them, and I gain the Innocent Child ability.

Uncrowned is not my lover.

[Menalque]

I expect to get the context by reading the pages a couple on either side of the point of interest

As I’m about to do now

With that quote

[Menalque]

But also in a sec we’re gonna talk about how laughable it is that you were trying to argue I scumslipped with my opening posts

[Hopkirk]

why have you been talking to ali for thirty minutes?

[Alisae]

why have you been talking to ali for thirty minutes?

because he can't spell town

[Alisae]

and he can't spell town because he's scum obviously KEKW

[Menalque]

why have you been talking to ali for thirty minutes?

bc ali is the one who was here and I’m trying to make up my mind on if ali is stuck in a derptunnel or is scum who was trying to take advantage of my non-presence here to go for an easy elim

[Alisae]

why have you been talking to ali for thirty minutes?

bc ali is the one who was here and I’m trying to make up my mind on if ali is stuck in a derptunnel or is scum who was trying to take advantage of my non-presence here to go for an easy elim

wow
look at mena's amazing scumhunting that happened on the last page!

[Alisae]

But also in a sec we’re gonna talk about how laughable it is that you were trying to argue I scumslipped with my opening posts

why are people suggesting that you scumslipped when thats not what I'm suggesting at all
I suggested you randed a role that doesn't have scum PT access and requires you to coordinate the scumkill with another player {probably Uncrowned} but you failed to do even that.

That's not a scum slip.

[Alisae]

Like what I understand as an expert shitposter tm is that jokes is a good way to communicate that kind of stuff and that's exactly what you did.
Now some people may think well you don't have enough evidence to come to this conclusion, but on the contrary, there was no kill and from what we know so far, scum are hindered in some way, so this theory has some value to it.

[Hopkirk]

the slots people care about in rough order

(you & Clidd/Ashoka) because they were in a toxic1v1 earlier. Ashoka had a claim which some people don't like
(Uncrowned/ABR)- have been getting decent amounts of attention
(Hopkirk/Pooky)- i think most people TR these slots
(Alisae/MT/Kanna)- i don't think anyone's tried to push these slots meaningfully this game

[Menalque]

If anything this just sounds like TMI on why there wasn’t a NK bc that’s such a bizarre thing for your mind to go to instead of just (nightless, doctor, odd-night nightless, bulletproof, commuter)

And also doesn’t take into account that I have like, a demonstrable track record of entering nearly every game with a joke and one of my old faithfuls being “pretending to think the neighbourhood is a scum PT”

[Alisae]

I mean someone suggested scum was hindered so its just a theory

[Alisae]

i didn't know that you have that joke though and I'm not sure how you expect me to know that?

[Hopkirk]

But also in a sec we’re gonna talk about how laughable it is that you were trying to argue I scumslipped with my opening posts

why are people suggesting that you scumslipped when thats not what I'm suggesting at all
I suggested you randed a role that doesn't have scum PT access and requires you to coordinate the scumkill with another player {probably Uncrowned} but you failed to do even that.

That's not a scum slip.

uh... so as scum (when there's 10 alive) you're saying that menal would think it's a good idea to signal to a partner thinking someone in the thread might respond suggesting who to kill, that person would die, and it wouldn't be considered sus? how exactly does menal's partner respond to that in a way that doesn't draw attention? like can you think of a phrasing? this feels incredibly bad as a strat given last night was at even numbers anyway, where scum sometimes consider no killing anyway if unafaid of prs.

do you have any kind of reason to think a role like this exists?

[Alisae]

If thats something that you can prove I'll drop it because it was only suggested that scum was hindered in some way.
That doesn't change the fact that ur earlier read on me was scummy and my townreads are just stronger so ur kinda just PoE

[Hopkirk]

also, why do you want to flip menal first if you think they need to coordinate a pick? surely the ideal situation would be to go for his partners first since scum might lose their kill tonight because menal couldn't coordinate with them.

it's much more likely scum just have 1-shot or 0-shot kill. i have no idea where your theory is coming from and i don't think it holds up.

my vote is on mena btw, your idea of their role isn't part of that

[Alisae]

uh... so as scum (when there's 10 alive) you're saying that menal would think it's a good idea to signal to a partner thinking someone in the thread might respond suggesting who to kill, that person would die, and it wouldn't be considered sus? how exactly does menal's partner respond to that in a way that doesn't draw attention? like can you think of a phrasing? this feels incredibly bad as a strat given last night was at even numbers anyway, where scum sometimes consider no killing anyway if unafaid of prs.

As a joke? Ya he could probably get away with it if he had that role, but I don't think anyone would bat an eye if someone died. I think if one of the players flipped then things look bad.

[Menalque]

I wouldn’t expect you to know that specific joke ali, I just think it’s a bizarre place for your mind to go

I found the most recent example of me doing it btw https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=84457

[Menalque]

Hop, why do you think I’m scum?

[Alisae]

also, why do you want to flip menal first if you think they need to coordinate a pick? surely the ideal situation would be to go for his partners first since scum might lose their kill tonight because menal couldn't coordinate with them.

because if it is menal and my theory is correct, that means that there's 1 scum confirmed in 4 players and if we can kill the other one we can potentially get some confirmed town.

[Alisae]

I wouldn’t expect you to know that specific joke ali, I just think it’s a bizarre place for your mind to go

I found the most recent example of me doing it btw https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=84457

i mean no one else has came up with an explanation about why the kill failed that wasn't "scum can't kill" or "scum loverize players during the night instead of killing them" so like /shrug

[Hopkirk]

uh... so as scum (when there's 10 alive) you're saying that menal would think it's a good idea to signal to a partner thinking someone in the thread might respond suggesting who to kill, that person would die, and it wouldn't be considered sus? how exactly does menal's partner respond to that in a way that doesn't draw attention? like can you think of a phrasing? this feels incredibly bad as a strat given last night was at even numbers anyway, where scum sometimes consider no killing anyway if unafaid of prs.

As a joke? Ya he could probably get away with it if he had that role, but I don't think anyone would bat an eye if someone died. I think if one of the players flipped then things look bad.

and if someone jokingly responds 'yeah we'll kill x' then that person dies? i don't get why you think a role like that exists
you're giving the idea too much confidence. you thinking of an idea, without overt reasons to do so, isn't a reasonable reason to privileged that idea over the alternatives

Hop, why do you think I’m scum?

poe from having lots of townreads
my current solve is (Ashoka/you/Uncrowned) or something like that

[Hopkirk]

I wouldn’t expect you to know that specific joke ali, I just think it’s a bizarre place for your mind to go

I found the most recent example of me doing it btw https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=84457

i mean no one else has came up with an explanation about why the kill failed that wasn't "scum can't kill" or "scum loverize players during the night instead of killing them" so like /shrug

scum can't kill
scum have limited kills
doctor/other role related reasons
scum chose to no kill
setup stuff

all feel more likely than a traitor that needs to coordinate to do the kill