Newbie 2051: Iceland! - End!

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1-13

King Christian IX of Denmark visited Iceland in 1874 and granted the island a constitution, though the island was still under Denmark rule. Icelanders celebrated 1000 years of settlement that same year.

Enchant

(3): esotericzoomer, quiet, Prism

Fredrick A Campbell

(2): Salsabil Faria, Spartan117

Prism

(2): Fredrick A Campbell, flow trap

Not Voting

(2): Enchant, floo

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: January 23, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-01-22 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Enchant]

Heya enchant, can you give a full read list for posterity? Just everyone’s name and how you lean on them, though explanations are also appreciated!

Will try to get back on late tonight.

Sure. It's night time for me though so maybe later.

[esotericzoomer]

lol

[Fredrick A Campbell]

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I feel like there is 1 scum between Flow trap Vs Sal.
I don't see it as Scum Vs Scum, and it just doesn't feel like Town Vs Town to me.

I'm town for sure.

What was the point of this post?

Forgive me if you have answered this post, but I have not seen an answer to the post above.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

If you get your word order wrong from now on, I think I might understand you. I don't speak Bengali, though, so it may be a lot more ambiguous to me than you think.

Bengali's grammar

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Well if you want talk, go ahead. I will hammer self when you want to.

Please don't end the day yet. I need some time to catch up.

[flow trap]

Um FaC you do know what your doing right and not doing random things

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Um FaC you do know what your doing right and not doing random things

I do a combination of random and non-random things. Good luck figuring out which is which.

[flow trap]

I figured

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I figured

What did you figure?

[flow trap]

It wasn't all random

[Fredrick A Campbell]

It wasn't all random

Ok.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

...

Fredrick

comes in with 90 their random vote on safebet seeming potentially a little opportunistic to jump on early to a potential reverse wagon that didn't formulate.
166 strange reaction to being voted, lack of desire to input thoughts and fight for reads, very reserved and not very townie.
173 again refusal to providing meaningful content with a mindset of "I don't have to" very much keeping their cards close to their chest, making it hard to get a well rounded read on them.
185 states that he is expressing his opinion on something but provides a pretty nothing statement that contradicts itself.
211 212 jumps on the back of Sals reasoning without providing any fresh ideas of their own to vote Floo, seems like a very scummy vote to me. something I called out in 215 which I don't believe was ever properly answered by them.

I don't like Fredricks aloofness and lack of pushing for reads, he has appeared to me very opportunistic, as for someone who should be one of the far more experienced members of this group as an SE and isn't pushing conversation or contributing to uncovering scum, if anything it feels like he is scum hiding in plain sight.
VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell

I didn't answer post 215 because the post simply stated your opinion. There was no reasoning for your opinion for me to argue against. Give me the reason for your opinion and we can have a conversation.

[quiet]

Heya Fred! What’s your read on Enchant?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Heya Fred! What’s your read on Enchant?

My read on them has yet to be formed.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I know this is a tad-bit ironic, but I am still catching up.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Actually, come to think of it, is there a specific series of posts you want to talk about?

[quiet]

Eh, you’ll know it when you see it. Your response just now p much gave me what I wanted to know; I read Enchant as scummy for reasons that will become obvious when you get to them, your name has been thrown around as a possible partner to Enchant, but your response right now is not what I’d expect if you were partners.

The relevant posts start around page 28. Start when Flow votes for Enchant and the wagon begins.

[Enchant]

Honestly, i dislike making these, but if you wish.

ALERT: I using my sense, not common sense what most people have, so some reasons can be insane for you to understand.

Spoiler:

Salsabil Faria - Null.

I hardly can see difference. She acted same as town when i played with her and somehow she not pushing me, which is strange. I dunno.

flow trap - Town?

He wastes time on something, what i find mafia too lazy to do. While i may disagree with pairs tablet what he done, he done it and it deserved.

Enchant - Jester

No comments.

floo - Null.

Eh. I dunno again. He unvoted me, when there is danger of my selfhammer. Would mafia do that or sit and wait before i suicide? Hmm.

quiet - Mafia?

"OH NO ENCHANT DON'T SELFHAMMER but i place vote on you, so you could do that in first place BUT PLEASE DON'T!"

... Nah, really. It's looking strange for me, especially reason why you voted me. I'm scummy? Damn, yes, but if you don't want me to selfhammer, then don't allow me.

esotericzoomer - Null.

He really think as self like mafia hunter, who catched two mafia on first day? Huh-huh, then you will disappointed. I would read this as Town, but his explaining of why he vote not main suspicious person is something i not like.

Spartan117 (SE) - Town?

E-e-eh. I know i'm town. Mafia know this as well, so it may be just some bad placed white knight. Mafia probably have some benefit if they can save me from execution, but that's plain dumb decision. I want believe this is town.

Prism (SE) - Town?

Kinda obvious why. I like game overall, but again, expireince is key here, so please, don't just blindly trust in Prism and watch steps.

Fredrick A Campbell (SE) - Town?

He hardly read game at all. I made some strange tests and can say he is probably town. Probably.

So i want believe, that's Quite and some of nulls. Or maybe i screwed this, then i really doing town favor by dying.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Eh, you’ll know it when you see it. Your response just now p much gave me what I wanted to know; I read Enchant as scummy for reasons that will become obvious when you get to them, your name has been thrown around as a possible partner to Enchant, but your response right now is not what I’d expect if you were partners.

The relevant posts start around page 28. Start when Flow votes for Enchant and the wagon begins.

Actually, I have read that part. So, what specifically made you think Enchant was mafia? (Just quoting the posts where you gave your opinion is sufficient)

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Honestly, i dislike making these, but if you wish.

ALERT: I using my sense, not common sense what most people have, so some reasons can be insane for you to understand.

Spoiler:

Salsabil Faria - Null.

I hardly can see difference. She acted same as town when i played with her and somehow she not pushing me, which is strange. I dunno.

flow trap - Town?

He wastes time on something, what i find mafia too lazy to do. While i may disagree with pairs tablet what he done, he done it and it deserved.

Enchant - Jester

No comments.

floo - Null.

Eh. I dunno again. He unvoted me, when there is danger of my selfhammer. Would mafia do that or sit and wait before i suicide? Hmm.

quiet - Mafia?

"OH NO ENCHANT DON'T SELFHAMMER but i place vote on you, so you could do that in first place BUT PLEASE DON'T!"

... Nah, really. It's looking strange for me, especially reason why you voted me. I'm scummy? Damn, yes, but if you don't want me to selfhammer, then don't allow me.

esotericzoomer - Null.

He really think as self like mafia hunter, who catched two mafia on first day? Huh-huh, then you will disappointed. I would read this as Town, but his explaining of why he vote not main suspicious person is something i not like.

Spartan117 (SE) - Town?

E-e-eh. I know i'm town. Mafia know this as well, so it may be just some bad placed white knight. Mafia probably have some benefit if they can save me from execution, but that's plain dumb decision. I want believe this is town.

Prism (SE) - Town?

Kinda obvious why. I like game overall, but again, expireince is key here, so please, don't just blindly trust in Prism and watch steps.

Fredrick A Campbell (SE) - Town?

He hardly read game at all. I made some strange tests and can say he is probably town. Probably.

So i want believe, that's Quite and some of nulls. Or maybe i screwed this, then i really doing town favor by dying.

If I were to try to make a readlist of my own, I would definitely "screw" something too. Hence, my reads are very fluid with players that were more likely to be town to me turning into more likely to be scum and vice versa.

Right now, given what I have read, my guess of the scumteam is Salsabil Faria and quiet with a higher than random chance of being right. Random chance is (1/28). Odds of right to wrong are (1:27).

[flow trap]

So what were you going to do? Twiddle your thumbs until sxum raise their hand and say, "Its me!"

Foreshadowing

[Salsabil Faria]

Enchant - I think both his wish to impose new "meta" inconjunction with voting flow trap and not genuinely interacting with him despite flow having the most activity by far is cause for concern. Put that together with his ingenuine attempts at endearing himself to others. He is a current scum read.

Hey this looks good for safebet if Enchant flips scum!

Nah, not necessarily...?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Salsabil Faria, I trust you to encounter my post where I ask you a question soon. I may or may not be online and may or may not be able to have a real-time talk with you.