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Post Post #3100 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:40 pm

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In post 3094, Bell wrote:ngl, I can see myself fucking up here @Dunnstral.
I thought I was being fairly through, but, nope. There's still more to learn.

Behaviorally, there are some warning flags here. Which compensates some, but I could still see there just being some confusion and me not looking for the right information.

Anyway, good night. Sorry for agitating you guilotina.
There's potential for Guillotina to be misunderstand what happened to them

I think it's weird that they are told that their action is failing
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Post Post #3101 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:45 pm

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In post 3024, Bell wrote:Hey guys.

I have a heart virus, I'm dying at the end of the day phase.
Holy shit I thought this was IRL and you legitimately made my stomach drop
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Post Post #3102 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:47 pm

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In post 3022, MathBlade wrote:Hey everyone! Haven’t had a chance to read yet but wanted a challenge to not hyperpost so much.

So I can get into the game quickly I would love it if everyone could point out 1-3 things they feel I should look at and “the thread” or “all of it” or “the vote counts” are not acceptable answers. I want something you think is alignment indicative. Going to skim VCAs ask questions for a bit but it’s getting late here and may not be on much longer.
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In post 3023, MathBlade wrote:Dunnstral you were on Battle Mage for a while then not since: What changed?
Battle Mage and Firebringer according to the vote history (assuming it’s based in order) you moved your vote off then back on Oil Tycoons why?
Bell and Guillotina you seem to have a vote not present and not voting during my skim. Did you notice? G in the 639 votecount and bell in 2504.
Superbowl9 mastina’s vote was on you. Why?
KookieMonster Why are you still alive? The Johnny head is a top tier scum hunter iirc. Why are you not dead?

Going to bed now but this hopefully will jumpstart my reading in the AM.
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Post Post #3103 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:50 pm

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In post 3030, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3028, Bell wrote:That summary is sufficient imo.

Does anyone have any pills to cure my heart virus, like, say trunks.

...Shit.

It's not part of my role, no. Somebody intentionally poisoned me.
OK so

Setup-wise I don't think there's 3 scum + a survivor + scum can poison townies

That would be wacky

So if this is a scum ability, it's probably a scum team of 2
Could be 3P that killed Flavor no?
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Post Post #3104 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:53 pm

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In post 3039, Bell wrote:Flea was town. Or he was a mafia traitor, which, yeah, no.
I still think Flea is 3P with Oil.
Have we considered that Flea took themselves and Flavor out of the timestream?
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Post Post #3105 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:58 pm

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3 FOR 3 BABY
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Post Post #3106 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 pm

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So Flavor and I were right with our solve then - Oil/Flea/Guillo
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Post Post #3107 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:49 pm

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ok so initial thoughts.

Looks like Flea is scum, and possibly responsible for Finral leaving the game.
If Flea is scum, suggests Bell is also scum for fakeclaiming an inno on them (which would make sense, to stall for time if Flea had a powerful scum PR)

Hate the claim shenanigans today. If Bell is dying at end of dayphase, why so apologetic over the guilty on Guillotina? but i guess it fits with the tone in this game.

But moreso, looks like TMI from Guillotina - quickly jumped from "Bell is lying" to being mad they are bad town. Also I wasn't really sold on the claim.

Hey Bell, when are you supposed to die? Will it be proven before we pick an elim?

Separately, I have zero interest in 3p spec today.

I guess sensible play is to elim Guillotina today, and if Bell doesn't die today, insta-elim them tomorrow regardless of the Guillo-flip.
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Post Post #3108 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:50 pm

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In post 3103, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 3030, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3028, Bell wrote:That summary is sufficient imo.

Does anyone have any pills to cure my heart virus, like, say trunks.

...Shit.

It's not part of my role, no. Somebody intentionally poisoned me.
OK so

Setup-wise I don't think there's 3 scum + a survivor + scum can poison townies

That would be wacky

So if this is a scum ability, it's probably a scum team of 2
Could be 3P that killed Flavor no?
Multiple third parties?

I don't think so
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Post Post #3109 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:50 pm

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Guillotina-scum, definitely makes me think Dunnstral-scum too
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Post Post #3110 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:51 pm

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In post 3106, superbowl9 wrote:So Flavor and I were right with our solve then - Oil/Flea/Guillo
In post 3107, Battle Mage wrote:Looks like Flea is scum, and possibly responsible for Finral leaving the game.
Also no, flea isn't scum because they're not in a pt.
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Post Post #3111 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:51 pm

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In post 3109, Battle Mage wrote:Guillotina-scum, definitely makes me think Dunnstral-scum too
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Post Post #3112 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:55 pm

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In post 3110, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3106, superbowl9 wrote:So Flavor and I were right with our solve then - Oil/Flea/Guillo
In post 3107, Battle Mage wrote:Looks like Flea is scum, and possibly responsible for Finral leaving the game.
Also no, flea isn't scum because they're not in a pt.
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Post Post #3113 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:09 pm

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In post 3033, Bell wrote:Since it was a 1 shot ability I feel pretty comfortable sharing that my ability was one that checked for the presence of a neighborhood.
Neither tested positive it could only be done during the elimination phase on two players.

I figured it was a good idea to check because I wasn't sure how that was going to go.

Should we be mass claiming?
or one more day phase?
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Post Post #3114 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:09 pm

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I assume this means any kind of private topic and he misspoke with neighborhood
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Post Post #3115 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:12 pm

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ah i see, you're assuming Bell is telling the truth. That wasn't what I was assuming.

But I can run with Guillo-scum. I feel it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes.... :lol:
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Post Post #3116 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:15 pm

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If you're going with Guillo-scum then by necessity you need to be thinking Bell is telling the truth
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Post Post #3117 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:20 pm

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nope, Bell and Guillo could both be scum here
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Post Post #3118 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:21 pm

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not the likeliest scenario, but definitely possible. and i dont know for a fact Guillo is scum pre-flip.
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Post Post #3119 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:59 am

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In post 3025, Dunnstral wrote:Hi here's the timeline:

Day 1 Titus desperado's Mastina; Titus dies, Mastina is confirmed town

End of Day 1 all passive abilities the following night are disabled (this was the work of the third party survivor who is now elimated). Mastina dies.

Day 2, Flea claims an explosion ability, Bell claims a daycop ability (?). Bell supposedly checks Flea and gets an inno, Flea then retracts the claim right before Fire swoops in and hammers and we canno longer discuss it.

Night 2, it looks like Flea was protected with a weird ability. Finral dies, and was being pushed by certain people. No flip but it can be assumed he was town; flea isn't dead, check first post
Thank you. I dub thee with the honorary gut town and will see if this holds.
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Post Post #3120 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:01 am

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In post 3031, Bell wrote:Agree, but I guess it's a one shot because nobody else claimed they were poisoned earlier.
It’s either this or Bell is lying (0.000002%) chance of that. Pretty much just locking Bell town here because I don’t think poison is ever fake claimed.
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Post Post #3121 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:06 am

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In post 3038, Bell wrote:Oh, thanks Dunnstral.

My guess is that Cell has an ability to completely absorb a player and reduce the information on flip.
In post 3040, Bell wrote:Flea was town. Or they were a mafia traitor, which, yeah, no.
Why are you using was if Flea left the timeline. Time travelers generally aren’t dead? Are you thinking he is? Is there something I am missing?
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Post Post #3122 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:07 am

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In post 3043, Dunnstral wrote:The vote not present is the mod team not writing down players who haven't voted yet in a current phase
Then they’d be in not voting no?

One habit I have is to almost always check and make sure my vote is there, it’s a good way to catch scum if you notice a vote mistake of theirs before they do and promotes accurate vote counts.
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Post Post #3123 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:10 am

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In post 3060, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3059, Bell wrote:Did you visit someone or not?
The hell? I already said i didnt, i was blocked and that's all you are getting. Why are you trying to out my role?
Consider me voting G here.


G is way too defensive here. It’s off. A poisoned player is almost certainly conf town working against them like this is very very scummy.

(My vote is consider as I don’t know the vote count here. But spiritually this is where I would put it for those doing VCA or what not.)
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Post Post #3124 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:13 am

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In post 3076, Guillotina wrote:And i tried to give the watcher ability to Finral, what the hell?
In post 3075, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3072, Bell wrote:In retrospect, I should have backed down after that second denial and just watched on.

Anyway, I'm king kai.
I have two abilities. during an elimination phase, neighborhood check on 2 players in there.
Other is at night where I can check if someone went somewhere last night.

I did a mechanics check and if you were role blocked the result would have said you were stationary.
But you weren't home.

Sooooo.

>.>
Yeah you're scum.

Sorry about that.
and sorry Noraa, you were right gj.
Eeeeh no. I got roleblocked!

Im Android 16 and Im a town inventor.

I can give out a watcher ability and a neighborizer ability.
This implies scum either A) don’t know how to fake claim or B) intentionally want G to die.

And yes, I am preflipping G scum his posting is just that bad.
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