TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[Xtoxm]

i get what you're saying about 2180 but you also know from that game that giving openly claimed PRs one night to get results isn't exactly... that reliable (ie you were simply roleblocked)?

learning that scum have a roleblocker is still useful information. and thats worst case.

either a) we trust xtoxm TRACKER claim and we let him out information until we hit lylo and then we can judgement call on him then or b) we do not trust the claim and flip him now

reconsidering him every day is the worst path regardless of what xtoxm actually is

claimed trackers don't make it to lylo. it's not useful way of thinking about it. either i get limmed because people care about their reads more than information, or scum don't risk being cephrir'd and just take me out. i

am

their only solid tpr lead rn. i agree with the final point, but i've been here before.

i need to stop posting and do my job

ABR's completely fake read on me should be like abundantly transparent by now. he wants my elim, but can't put a reason on why. everything he's posted trying to explain it is naked posturing - i repeat, guy is scum or criminally dense and i like to assume the best in poeple.

if anyone wants to towncase him, hit me.

i repeat - i don't understand why scum!abr has played the way he has. he's really put his neck out antagonising the wagon park on me for the past week, what has he gained from doing this? other than tr by the least valuable slot, social dynamic wise. he was the first one to oppose my original wagon in a significant way. first one to unvote after my claim. i read the late hop on to my wagon as him having had enough and wanting to progress the game, i don't think it's suspicious. my team agree. i tr him pretty hard.

I'm kinda indifferent to the claim

could you expand on what you mean here?

Will we believe any results?

you will when i flip. what you believe in the meantime is largely irrelevant.

And I fucking do realize my argument (about DGB) is falling on deaf ears, so I'm just making it for MY OWN SAKE (post-game I get to brag about it)

i'm there for it.
-pushes the shitty take that im c+p my teammates post
-make comments undercutting value of my role. AND has mislimmed me as tracker before in similar situation, should know better.
VOTE: dgb

Damned if I didn't expect you to be a PR by play. (No, I'm not bragging and I wasn't even confident as I noticed no crumbs from X. It's just me be familiar of the way he plays overall, I had him down as 60-70% a TPR, and I sure as he; couldn't have used "I think he's a TPR" to explain the TR).

<3
i don't makes clues for scum. the practise is inane. scum are perfectly able to fake crumbs.

my teammate from last year, and the player that knows me best keep saying im not scum, while those with no or little experience with me think they know better. maybe listen to them.

okay, so we know it was written in the TEAM PT AND NOT THE SCUM PT. ok lol.

please stfu about this

Yes x has all the hallmarks of town pe play like not caring and saying it doesn't matter if they die

That makes total sense

i'm glad you're seeing things my way

[Cephrir]

I mean I'm not sure if I believe it and i still feel fine with liming you bc despite the game you linked it's not that great a role anyway

[hercule]

why is ceph wagon not the way?

It's not the way because a) I think they are town. And b) we have much better leads. My next dive into the game is going to be scumcasing mastina but I want to see who vibes with it first before I share that.

If you want further reading, the bedrock of my townread on Cephrir was formed ~ 1/3 through D1 a la 1131. At that point, I felt strongly they were town. Their contributions have been a bit muted since but I think some of that was explained by mastina subbing into the game. They haven't done anything to change my read on them and I think they would be a bad flip considering they are >rand to flip town fmpov.

[hercule]

Call to arms: who *opposes* a mastina flip

[DrippingGoofball]

I am going to support VOTE: mastina vibin'

[Xtoxm]

bad
bad hog

[Hopkirk]

My inactivity has brought shame upon my family. flopz is refusing to speak to me until i either restore my lost honour or 'do the sword thing' (no thanks Flopz, i'm actually allergic to sword wounds lol). Sadly, this means Flopz's reads are going to have to wait a little longer. I'll check up again tonight after I 'stop being a disgrace to my lineage' and I'm 5000% sure Flopz will be happy to give all of his thoughts there.

i've been skimming a bit today when i've got a free minute. i should be able to put 2-3 hours into it tonight.

some of those rough skimming thoughts
- (Winter/Ythan/Agar)/(Unwnd)? was looking through interactions around here.
- Ythan's unvote after the claim instead of moving to another wagon feels off
- I should actually read Herc's content instead of skimming it for vibes, maybe even for Agar too
- ABR and DGB both feel town from approach to the game being so... outspoken maybe? there's a better phrasing that i'll talk about later in a bit more depth
- WinterFlakes you never came back to me on a couple of my requests @Winter Flakes - how are your teammates feeling about this game atm?

[Hopkirk]

you know what's a better phrasing than 'outspoken'? I thought of a better placeholding metaphor

poking a dead body they found around the back of the local police station with a stick to see what happens to the eyeballs

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mastin would not have defended me or xtoxm if he was scum. He's town. DGB or the worst today please.

[Hopkirk]

i'm assuming this isn't going to be a hammer. if it is then lol

VOTE: the worst

Spoiler:

(i'm aware this isn't a hammer)

[DrippingGoofball]

Mastin would not have defended me or xtoxm if he was scum. He's town. DGB or the worst today please.

That misgendering is NASTY, cut it out. It's deliberately TOXIC garbage and it angers me.

[innocentvillager]

why is ceph wagon not the way?

It's not the way because a) I think they are town. And b) we have much better leads. My next dive into the game is going to be scumcasing mastina but I want to see who vibes with it first before I share that.

If you want further reading, the bedrock of my townread on Cephrir was formed ~ 1/3 through D1 a la 1131. At that point, I felt strongly they were town. Their contributions have been a bit muted since but I think some of that was explained by mastina subbing into the game. They haven't done anything to change my read on them and I think they would be a bad flip considering they are >rand to flip town fmpov.

i read through it again quickly and i see arguments like "mindmelding" which made you +town on them? ik what you mean, it feels great to mindmeld with players but fmpov the things you mindmelded on weren't exactly like, very interesting observations or thoughts so it read kinda null to me at best

the overly early "eagerness" and early jump into scumhunting is, fair, but ive see scum do that many times, especially competent scum

idk, just my current viewpoint, open to being convinced on ceph town

Call to arms: who *opposes* a mastina flip

i sort of do but im open to hearing more. they just seem like stubborn town to me but ive never played with them before.

[Cephrir]

Is it awful that after pushing mastina for some reasons I think her producing some instead of continuing to be her frustrating self might be scum indicative? Ugh I might have to go actually read her posts

[Albert B. Rampage]

Call to arms: who *opposes* a mastina flip

i sort of do but im open to hearing more. they just seem like stubborn town to me but ive never played with them before.

Be careful about your NASTY, deliberately TOXIC garbage misgendering btw. Don't let it happen again or punishment may be enforced.

[Titus]

*angry, disappointed but not scumreading glares at 3313 by ABR*

VOTE: DGB

[Dannflor]

VOTE: ythan

What purpose does running yet another player up serve aside from further muddying the waters of any info that could be gleaned post-flip since now the wagons have all already lost a significant chunk of their value because they're just being pushed around willy nilly?

This paragraph doesn’t actually say anything

How exactly does me voting someone else muddy the waters? Why have the wagons lost a significant chunk of their value? What gives you the impression slots are getting pushed “willy nilly?”

I think there’s a decent likelihood of there being scum in the slots that hard defended xtoxm for little to no reason, that means mastina/ythan, I think ythan is a scummier, although I’m not strictly town reading mastina either, ergo.

[AGar]

How exactly does me voting someone else muddy the waters? Why have the wagons lost a significant chunk of their value? What gives you the impression slots are getting pushed “willy nilly?”

As you've voted, there's generally been a swath of players that have followed you. So analyzing the wagons that have been run up has been really diluted because guess what - it's the same 3 to 4 people at the core of the wagon, every single time, with little to no assertion or follow through. The incessant shifting of the wagons has felt trite and farcical at this point. If you actually intend on running Ythan to a yeet, then whatever, but this feels like just another point where a wagon is going to erupt to 8 votes, steam out, and go nowhere and we get nothing from it.

[Dannflor]

I want to yeet ythan

Idk how ythan is actually pronounced but in my head that’s fun to say

[OkaPoka]

its a little bit funny

this feeling by you-u

voting all these slots don't

have any value

[Cephrir]

think i'll probably do some work today after all since we appear to be adrift again

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't care who gets yeeted anymore.

It's page 133 and we're still pissing around. Every decent wagon gets stopped in its tracks by white knights, why can't we get our act together?

I have no more reads, I'll vote any and all wagons including myself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I pronounce it Yee-Than.

[DrippingGoofball]

its a little bit funny

this feeling by you-u

voting all these slots don't

have any value

I don't have a ticket

but boy if I did

I'd board a big train

That we both could ride

[OkaPoka]

i don't have more votes but, boy if i did

id yeet ythan now - right off the ship


if i TMI'd heh, then again no

or a man who can't explan, slots nobody knows

[OkaPoka]

i know its not much, but its the best i can do

my gift is my vote and this one's for you