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[Titus]

Official Votecount 1.8

Not_Mafia

(5): Gamma Emerald,

Bypasser Catcher

, NorwegianboyEE,

quiet

,

Nero Cain

[E-6]

PlusJoyed

(3): Luca Blight, DrippingGoofball, Titus
DrippingGoofball (2): Momrangal,

MathBlade

MathBlade

(2): BBMolla, Vaxkiller

Bypasser Catcher

(2):

Not_Mafia

, chkflip
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

Rannygazoo

(1):

Norfolk Boy1

Norfolk Boy1

(1):

Rannygazoo

Gamma Emerald (1): Andresvmb

Not Voting (2): Hayker, Binatog13

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

Official Votecount 1.9

Not_Mafia

(5): Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE,

quiet

,

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

[E-6]

PlusJoyed

(4): Luca Blight, DrippingGoofball, Titus, Andresvmb
DrippingGoofball (2): Momrangal,

MathBlade

MathBlade

(2): BBMolla, Vaxkiller

Bypasser Catcher

(2):

Not_Mafia

, chkflip
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

Norfolk Boy1

(1):

Rannygazoo

NorwegianBoyEE (1):

Bypasser Catcher

Not Voting (2): Hayker*, Binatog13

*

Hayker may be voting BBMolla, waiting on confirmation that is what they meant.

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

Norway switches wagons, then a bunch of town pile on. Andres changes to the other wagon. Given we know scum weren't trying for a massive bus, Andres's vote is unlikely to come from town. Doubly so in a Norweigan town universe as its trying to create momentum elsewhere.

I feel very confident based on these two VCs so far in calling a Noreweiganboy DGB Andres team.

[Gamma Emerald]

That's... crazy detailed. Exactly why I use it (and I trust you to regardless of alignment give me a jumping point). But technically that post is IIoA. Heh.

Pedit: you're being very persnickety for someone who was counter offered.

I know whether Titus, Mom, quiet, and you are vanilla or not. In that order. My reads have followed that train if you'd like to go back and check. No crumbs, but before I knew there was whatever the fuck a Doctor Tracker is flip TOWN I'm very much in the camp that the Role Cop is scum.

I did say Mom was vanilla before she claimed it, though.

I said that at some point yesterday.

This POV checks out

[Titus]

Official Votecount 1.14

Hayker (6):

quiet

, NorwegianboyEE,

Rannygazoo

, Andresvmb, BBMolla,

Bypasser Catcher

[E-5]

Not_Mafia

(5):

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

,

MathBlade

, Binatog13, DrippingGoofball

PlusJoyed

(2): Titus, Luca Blight
Titus (1): PlusJOYE

MathBlade

(1): Vaxkiller

Bypasser Catcher

(1): Gamma Emerald

Rannygazoo

(1): chkflip
NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (1): Hayker

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

VOTE: Andres

I don't see any universe where Andres is town under any PoV.

I don't think Bingatog is scum and that leaves the only possible scum on Not_Mafia is DGB.

That means scum likely preferred Hayker dead over NotMafia. Look who is in a later position again.

I could be wrong on NorweiganboyEE and DGB.

At least one of Andres/Molla

must be scum

I don't accept any other worldview.

[Titus]

Summary to EoD 1

Nero Cain's wagon might actually be purely town but for Not_Mafia. His wagon was so hard to drive because scum wouldn't feel the need to vote Nero.

If his wagon was started by scum (Norway in this case), it would have to be to save Hayker. Otherwise, scum Norway has no need to start up a wagon on town Nero when he has one on town Hayker unless he feared Not Mafia's wagon going through anyway, which doesn't seem supported by the start of the wagon.

Nero was voting Not_Mafia, so a chainsaw isn't totally out of the question though. Just seems inefficient unless Hayker is also scum.

I say it has to be Norway scum that starts the wagon flip because Gamma and chkflip are likely clear from the reasons above.

[Gamma Emerald]

I thought scum!flip was going to claim my role, since it's already been outed, and I was hoping he'd get caught with the wrong night choices.

I'm the lazy roleblocker.

N1 GE
N2 Norwegian
N3 quiet
N4 Momrangal

Here’s the thing, I highly doubt the lazy RB is town given the setup we have going here. We already have a town role watcher and town tracker (plus other stuff but tracker is what I find most notable) with presumably a universal backup to support those roles, and now chkflip claims vanilla cop. With that density of PRs scum are probably gonna have something to counteract that. Town also already had a sort of blocking role in the rolestopper.

[Titus]

I keep reading N_M posts as BC posts before realizing it's not.

That avatar is hypnotic.

I'm switching horses here, because this flip will confirm a lead I want to pursue later.

VOTE: Nero

This right here was probably why Norfolkboy was guiltied. He couldn't pursue his lead and scum likely suspected he was an investigative PR.

[Titus]

I thought scum!flip was going to claim my role, since it's already been outed, and I was hoping he'd get caught with the wrong night choices.

I'm the lazy roleblocker.

N1 GE
N2 Norwegian
N3 quiet
N4 Momrangal

Here’s the thing, I highly doubt the lazy RB is town given the setup we have going here. We already have a town role watcher and town tracker (plus other stuff but tracker is what I find most notable) with presumably a universal backup to support those roles, and now chkflip claims vanilla cop. With that density of PRs scum are probably gonna have something to counteract that. Town also already had a sort of blocking role in the rolestopper.

So you're suspecting the lazy modifier would act as a Godfather of sorts if multitasking isn't a thing the scum roleblocker would already be lazy thus causing us to want to eliminate the rolestopper?

[Titus]

@DGB, Why didn't you block me but blocked Mom instead?

[Titus]

Ok I want reasons on all DGB's targets

[Titus]

I think Plusjoyed and BBMolla were T v T wagons, but I would want more flips to confirm.

There that's my VCA.

My pool is NorweiganboyEE, DGB, Andres, Molla, and Hayker
and if I'm wrong about that exclusively containing scum then it's in Mom but I doubt Mom is scum.

Everyone else I have a strong VCA reason to clear.

[Titus]

*Binatog should be in with the Mom line.

[Titus]

There's my work. It's now date night. TTYL.

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB, Why didn't you block me but blocked Mom instead?

I was town reading you (though I have learned my lesson, I'll have to call you scum whether I am townreading you or not.)

Momrangal seemed a bit off to me. Not enough to wagon. I thought if scum, she'd be a good candidate to do the NK.

Ultimately, that's what I was trying to do every night. Stop a NK. A scum player widely scumread wouldn't be the one doing it. Like you kids say these days, I was gunning for a deepwolf-y player.

[DrippingGoofball]

GE believing chkflip!scum's vanilla claim (with alleged modifier unclaimed) over my very clear claim and clear choices are a scum claim by GE.

F the VCA.

[Andresvmb]

Official Votecount 1.8

Not_Mafia

(5): Gamma Emerald,

Bypasser Catcher

, NorwegianboyEE,

quiet

,

Nero Cain

[E-6]

PlusJoyed

(3): Luca Blight, DrippingGoofball, Titus
DrippingGoofball (2): Momrangal,

MathBlade

MathBlade

(2): BBMolla, Vaxkiller

Bypasser Catcher

(2):

Not_Mafia

, chkflip
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

Rannygazoo

(1):

Norfolk Boy1

Norfolk Boy1

(1):

Rannygazoo

Gamma Emerald (1): Andresvmb

Not Voting (2): Hayker, Binatog13

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

Official Votecount 1.9

Not_Mafia

(5): Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE,

quiet

,

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

[E-6]

PlusJoyed

(4): Luca Blight, DrippingGoofball, Titus, Andresvmb
DrippingGoofball (2): Momrangal,

MathBlade

MathBlade

(2): BBMolla, Vaxkiller

Bypasser Catcher

(2):

Not_Mafia

, chkflip
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

Norfolk Boy1

(1):

Rannygazoo

NorwegianBoyEE (1):

Bypasser Catcher

Not Voting (2): Hayker*, Binatog13

*

Hayker may be voting BBMolla, waiting on confirmation that is what they meant.

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

Norway switches wagons, then a bunch of town pile on. Andres changes to the other wagon. Given we know scum weren't trying for a massive bus, Andres's vote is unlikely to come from town. Doubly so in a Norweigan town universe as its trying to create momentum elsewhere.

I feel very confident based on these two VCs so far in calling a Noreweiganboy DGB Andres team.

What is the point of all this effort if this is the end result? What a waste of time.

[DrippingGoofball]

Flip's vanilla COP claim, not vanilla.

He's lying

[DrippingGoofball]

Titus says the scum wasn't bus'ing... I was on NM like white on rice, conclusion: I am scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also I've been townreading Andres all game so Titus voting him doesn't sit well with me.

[Vaxkiller]

That is correct. There's a modifier but if you don't mind I'd rather I kept it to myself, tyvm.

Can you not see the reason I might be non-specific?

How does Vanilla cop help town, just claim everything, who the fuck cares about the modifier? What are your targets?

[Vaxkiller]

I thought scum!flip was going to claim my role, since it's already been outed, and I was hoping he'd get caught with the wrong night choices.

I'm the lazy roleblocker.

N1 GE
N2 Norwegian
N3 quiet
N4 Momrangal

This is how town claims

[Vaxkiller]

Gamma talk to me

[BBmolla]

I thought scum!flip was going to claim my role, since it's already been outed, and I was hoping he'd get caught with the wrong night choices.

I'm the lazy roleblocker.

N1 GE
N2 Norwegian
N3 quiet
N4 Momrangal

So you blocked Quiet the night where weve been theorizing that Quiet had a Chkflip guilty?

[Andresvmb]

Here’s the thing, I highly doubt the lazy RB is town given the setup we have going here. We already have a town role watcher and town tracker (plus other stuff but tracker is what I find most notable) with presumably a universal backup to support those roles, and now chkflip claims vanilla cop.

Why are you believing that the Vanilla Cop is Town exactly?

[Vaxkiller]

There's my work. It's now date night. TTYL.

Tell your date about how you do VCA

[Gamma Emerald]

GE believing chkflip!scum's vanilla claim (with alleged modifier unclaimed) over my very clear claim and clear choices are a scum claim by GE.

F the VCA.

Mate I’m not sure what’s going on but something doesn’t line up, and I think it’s you. I guess chkflip’s claim is pretty plausible as a fakeclaim for the mafia rolecop though. I just think you stick out worse.
UNVOTE:
I will do this until I fully make up my mind