Newbie 2051: Iceland! - End!

[fairyprincess69]

Area of Effect/Elimination, basically just thinking about possible scum combinations and what it could be given the people I TR, and given that I feel strongly that prism, fairy are tr, I know I am, that limits the area of my search a great deal.

Fred makes sense to me because of how many people I TR, and how of the remaining group, {floo, flow, spartian, fred}, most combinations don't really work without Fred being scum.

Maybe that's not a real term, sorry.

are you really that set on me being town? i find that surprising

@floo oof dude ive been defending you

[Prism]

I don't think it's an accident that you've separated quiet and fairyprincess into categories based off helpfulness here, while I don't get the same treatment beyond "effort" and refusal to engage directly with me throughout the game. Several of fairy's posts have been some of the most detailed/insightful in the game, ex. on Spartan. I don't find them surface level. That said, I don't like them immediately running opposite of whatever vote I suggest in the moment and he has contributed to the deadline chaos.

There are some valid criticisms of me in there. I think some of them were right and will take it to heart, and I'm sorry if my vote is wrong.

[Spartan117]

Final D2 reads

Nice to see you join us before the end of D2.

We have just over an hour before D2 ends with a no elim, you guys know what my thoughts are.

VOTE: Fredrick

[Spartan117]

Ah appologies just noticed Quiet had also voted fredreick

L-1

they have 3 votes on them currently

[Prism]

Doesn't look like we're getting floo today. Floo definitely busses here if he has to; there really isn't another choice.

Take seriously my case on floo but as always, trust your own judgment and work together. That means you, flow trap.

It's E-1, I will 100% be here to vote if someone else doesn't before deadline.

[fairyprincess69]

i really, really think we should get flow trap before we're in lylo and we have to work on sorting his slot for real - he's a brick wall and i don't think that's gonna change anytime soon

[Prism]

I think he's definitely a liability in Elo if he's town but I'm fine taking a shot that gives a lot more information and that I feel better about today.

flow trap v. Frederick is a much harder call. My instinct is that Frederick is worse overall, even though I really, really hate how flow trap has played the last ~48 hours.

[quiet]

Will sorting fred be any easier tmmrw either?

[Prism]

Rereading Frederick I think 1353/1354 are kind of town but I might as well be throwing darts. Dude also literally thought he wasn't in danger and didn't check in at all today.

Maybe 1354 has scumQuiet shaking in his boots.

[Prism]

(I was going to let Frederick/quiet talk it out but 1354 isn't a good point, quiet's using the assumption of Frederick town to make a point about Spartan, not assuming Frederick is town himself)

[fairyprincess69]

it's genuinely impossible to get any sense of fred's read progressions since he never shares his reasoning. like in 1272 spartan is misrepresenting his posts (scumtell) then in 1353 it's quiet and floo. why? he never gets round to explaining anything lol. im thinking MAYBE with another day we'd get more from fred rather than flow trap who, whilst he's here most of the time, we never get anything from anyway. flow trap's game just dropped significantly for me since it's clear his whole playstyle never was utilised to find mafia - it's just chaos as quiet likes to say. i just think that chaos is coming from a self-preservation mindset now.

[Prism]

So, do we want to talk more about flow trap/Frederick/floo or do we just want to see the flip already? This seems pretty set and I'm ready to just see the result and call it a day.

P-Edit: Aight I'll hold off a bit longer.

From a scum trap perspective, I think flow trap's day 2 play was more being worried about a partner being flipped/not wanting to be on a miselim rather than thinking they were in danger themselves. I definitely concur we're in for a rough 5 way with flow trap around.

[fairyprincess69]

is fferyllt around? vote count plez?

[Prism]

flow trap's game just dropped significantly for me since it's clear his whole playstyle never was utilised to find mafia

I feel bad that we're beating up on flow trap but you do have a point with this post (I'm sorry but what was the galaxy brain plan regarding voting Quiet and hoping I don't vote there? I hope he doesn't try this in Elo) and I would much rather have Frederick in 5 way than flow trap.

[Prism]

Eh between the two yeah I'd rather go flow trap. Frederick is the only person voting with me on floo. I don't like preflips but I really don't like what happens if he flips town here, I think flow trap flipping town is a lot more salvageable and probably more likely to flip scum considering today anyway.

[Prism]

I don't think we have the votes without Spartan/floo checking in actually nvm

Welp

[Prism]

Actually Spartan might still be up? And maybe we can convince quiet? Unclear

[quiet]

Eh, i'm here and could vote flow trap. I don't love much of anything rn. If Spartian/floo do check back in, I could vote there.

[quiet]

people are split down the middle on if fred or flow are harder to read tmmrw it seems.

[quiet]

I feel like I'm playing absolutely terribly rn

[Spartan117]

I am around, I am literally so half asleep i think im a quarter awake or something idk anymore its 4:22am here and i just wish these deadlines werent at 5am my time aha but what can ya do I wanted to see what happens just encase anyone else comes back or provides any input before the deadline that i could have some input on that i might feel might benefit town from my perspective

[Prism]

I still want floo first and please note that requires only 2 votes

[Spartan117]

I am pretty much on this with fredrick rn and not totally sure why you are trying to pull it off fredrick and onto flow trap, i mean i can see some logic in terms of sorting the slots tomorrow but from their play fredrick has been far scummier than flow trap, i would say i have certainly seen some things from flow trap that can be seen as having townie motive, reaction testing etc but idk anymore, D1 they were the two i felt the worst about, and im not sure what happened to flow trap in that he seemed to be in the upper echelons floating in the clouds of everyone's reads that he was untouchable, and look where we are now, hmm idk

[Spartan117]

I still want floo first and please note that requires only 2 votes

No

[Prism]

I'm hammering at 11:45 EST, hypothetically we could still vote swap after then but someone falling asleep, someone being conveniently AFK scum, etc. makes coordinating not worth the risk imo