Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[5uffering]

I'm fine with Clidd/Gamma/W+P as today's PoE. I went and looked at Ircher specifically to find a scumgame and I realized something.

He doesn't have any. He hasn't played scum in a full year. Rust develops harder on someones scumplay especially if they don't roll it for such a period of time. There was this moment from W+P that I really didn't like earlier. It was when BM and earlygame were happening. W+P got wagoned and Ircher's response to it all was to assume a more familiar form in the style of catch-up posts, and if I were angling I'd say that was a reaction to those votes. Like he dove right back into a familiar style because his new approach was giving him trouble.

I thought maybe I was thinking too hard about it though so I moved onto to my second option.

[War and Peace]

because I need to defend gamma

[Fey]

That explanation doesn’t even... make sense.

[Fey]

because I need to defend gamma

How does it help anyone to step in and question someone who is suspicious?

[War and Peace]

How does it help anyone to step in and question someone who is suspicious?

*gently pats you*

[Gamma Emerald]

You don’t seem like the town Saudade I’m used to

But i havent played with you in ages surely you could understand that ive changed a bit in a year

Yeah but your play is also just rather abominable in general
You’re flat AF and

you’ve been stepping on Nancy the whole time

Why is this scummy?

Because why does he need to trash Nancy out of the gate? I can think of better scum-driven than town-driven reasons for it.
Why ask now, though?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you need to defend me
I’m assuming this is Sam?

[Fey]

How does it help anyone to step in and question someone who is suspicious?

*gently pats you*

I meant defend... oops.

All the same, even if you think Gamma is town, us hearing his words and explanations will help us reach that conclusion better than your words in his stead, you know??

[War and Peace]

that was sarcasm

I wasn't trying to cut gamma off at the pass, I just had my own opinion on why it was

[Gamma Emerald]

The word “need” is very strong there

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh.

[5uffering]

I'm fine with Clidd/Gamma/W+P as today's PoE. I went and looked at Ircher specifically to find a scumgame and I realized something.

He doesn't have any. He hasn't played scum in a full year. Rust develops harder on someones scumplay especially if they don't roll it for such a period of time. There was this moment from W+P that I really didn't like earlier. It was when BM and earlygame were happening. W+P got wagoned and Ircher's response to it all was to assume a more familiar form in the style of catch-up posts, and if I were angling I'd say that was a reaction to those votes. Like he dove right back into a familiar style because his new approach was giving him trouble.

I thought maybe I was thinking too hard about it though so I moved onto to my second option.

Want to give an exact visual for this.

Do you have any other reads right now?

Batsunami is likely town based on their enthusiasm here. They don't particularly like scum, and it feels pretty genuine enthusiasm. Aside from that, not really.

I think Sherlock and Watson are a bit quiet, but it could just be that they both aren't very active.

That's about it on reads for now.
~Ircher

Spoiler: Then here's the small wagon on W+P.

VOTE COUNT 1 . 2

• War and Peace
  ------- 3 ( Pyro(12), Dunnstral(6), Fey(6) )
  
  Toogeloo
  ------------ 3 ( Batsunami(17), shadowslug(2), Battle Mage(1) )
  
  Starcrossed
  --------- 2 ( Rogue Squadron(1), War and Peace(1), Titus(1) )
  
  ItalianoVD
  ---------- 2 ( ItalianoVD(1), Sherlock and Watson(1) )
  
  Saudade
  ------------- 1 ( Gamma Emerald(1) )
  
  Batsunami
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Sherlock and Watson
  - 0 ( No One )
  
  Gamma Emerald
  ------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Morty and Rick
  ------ 0 ( No One )
  
  SaraharaS
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Fey
  ----------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Rogue Squadron
  ------ 0 ( No One )
  
  Dunnstral
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Clidd
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Battle Mage
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Pyro
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Charlie and Snoopy
  -- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ---------- 7 ( Starcrossed(2), Morty and Rick(0), SaraharaS(0), Clidd(0), Toogeloo(6), Saudade(0), Nancy Drew 39(8) )

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to Flip
Deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-25 20:00:00)

VOTE: ItalianoVD
I got a feeling this is scum

Why so? I didn't really get that impression; Italiano's actions to this point serve only to draw attention to himself.

Ircher feels very tonally different from his townmeta. No crank, no snark, all politics.

I would argue I'm snarkier when I am scum. See for instance the Dark Fairy Booneytoonz game.

His entrance feels off

I'm not convinced by this. His entrance feels a bit subdued, but simply being "off" is a rather vague and generic inference.

This time ... you're shitposting?

Dunnstral's post reads 100% serious to me. I don't see how you read it as fluffy.

Seriously? What's put you off of him?

Fey's posts seem a bit off. Like this one for instance; the amount of force expressed here seems disproportional to the magnitude of the crime.

I can be enthusiastic as scum as well and its not like you dont know that.

I am very much aware of that. In Pooky vs. Flavor Leaf, your enthusiasm was over the top. Hence, MURDERCAT caught you. Your enthusiasm here more closely resembles the dark fairy Booneytoonz game, where you were town. Do I believe you can fake it as scum? Absolutely. Do I think that's the case here? No, not right now.

Can you quote bits that you think are genuine for me? I just want to have a grasp on it. And I don't think they were too quiet, I mean. I guess I remember them because we had that same-brain thing going on... ^^;

(To this point, Sherlock and Watson had one post. You must be confusing them with someone else.)
Regarding the quotes,I cannot for the most part direct you to individual posts because it's a more holistic read versus a collection of individual post reads. I guess if I had to choose one, 23 strikes me as the most genuine and least likely of Noraa's posts to come from scum!Noraa.

I didn't connect the dots and realize war and peace was ircher. Like I knew ... kind of but then forgot.

How can you forget when 1) it's in my sig and 2) I sign each and every one of my posts?!?!

So Nancy is the good guy and Titus is the bad guy? So if I’m not a mason, how do I help Nancy?

How do you spell Lah-mist?
-Rogue 3

So far, you've made multiple fluff comments. I'll be waiting to see some actual content from you.

I think Italiano is being defended too hard for the content he's actually posted

I don't get that impression. I agree that Italiano's posts look bad on a glance, but when you look deeper, it really comes out to null. I think the people defending Italiano are arguing along those lines and that they seem louder than they actually are.

like there's attention and discussion on a few slots right now, and rather than commenting on any of that you push on italiano based on like... 3 posts? it looks like just arbitarily adding another slot to the lim pool, and you get the added bonus of not having to engage with the building case on ircher

This is a very good take. Tentatively town reading the Charlie and Snoopy slot.

I've been asking a ton of questions, which is what you accused him of. Why am I distinguished from that?

This is very shallow. Context matters a lot. That being said; I do think you are tonally off, and am unsure why no one else seems to thinks this way.

I've played enough games with Dunn to know that.

Okay, but doesn't this contradict your earlier assertion that Dunnstral mainly does this as scum?

It's too early to call anyone a "lurker"

Agreed. Certain slots may be "quiet", but the game had just started. You aren't lurking if you haven't posted within an hour of game start.

The more you ignore me, the more I'm going to think this, and I don't think you can fairly called me tunneled when you're not engaging with me on what was originally a simple question.

When someone stops engaging with you, it does no benefit to continue pressing the issue. It continues to get ignored or get people upset, and it needlessly clutters the thread.

At bottom of page 10. I don't expect to get much further tonight.
~War

There's some samantha inbetween there as well but going into catchup mode for content they were already around for? Just..didn't feel good.

[Saudade]

W n p whats your top townread and scumread
Just one of each please

[Nancy Drew 39]

You don’t seem like the town Saudade I’m used to

But i havent played with you in ages surely you could understand that ive changed a bit in a year

Yeah but your play is also just rather abominable in general
You’re flat AF and

you’ve been stepping on Nancy the whole time

Why is this scummy?

Spoiler:

Gamma probably just misunderstood.

[War and Peace]

W n p whats your top townread and scumread
Just one of each please

batsunami, you

[Gamma Emerald]

What?

[Saudade]

I am your #1 scumread? Based off what?

[Saudade]

Tell me now

[Saudade]

why arent you telling me
why no spontanious replies mister

[War and Peace]

I think voting for italiano was nonsensical since italiano is clearly playing a lot different than he does as mafia, not just you but sherlock & watson + gamma should know that as well

but primarily I think your over the top abrasiveness is deliberate to make yourself seem too bold to be mafia

[Saudade]

a hundred pages of content and your top scumread is a tone read?

[War and Peace]

tone lol

[Saudade]

imagine scumreading me because im too bold lol
me
ME

[Pyro]

Can you do a moment of brilliance

[Saudade]

Not really, you guys cant play optimally so im just here chilling and rereading the war guy