Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[Battle Mage]

nah ill stay where i am for now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok good talk

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Cakez

Okay sheeping the Pooky. He cares more than me so he gets the wim.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm pretty sure I do not care more than you dude

[Battle Mage]

VOTE: cakez

alright now Pooky has stopped yanking my chain i'm on board.

another day, another dollar

[SirCakez]

yeah im with ya Pooky. Cakez is scum.

why?

[Battle Mage]

yeah im with ya Pooky. Cakez is scum.

why?

your takes on me are superficial, one-dimensional and lack credibility. you're a smart player, and i've only seen you make takes like that as scum when you were coasting.

I just don't believe you believe the things you say.

[borkjerfkin]

Bork I’m genuinely not trying to upset you

yeah.
heat of the moment and i apologize as well, you didn't deserve that, regardless of alignment. i'm just gonna not engage here for now.

bork!rage seems outside of scum range I think?

I am squicked out by this from now two people.
In fact, who out of Dunn/Cakez has even seen my scumgame in a game? How do you know?

[borkjerfkin]

where did Bell claim to transfer the item during the day?

i guess the simplest explanations would be either the Mod got it wrong in the OP, or Spiffeh and Bell are just scum? But both surprise me so I probably missed something key.

maybe this is town from BM; moreso if neither Spiffeh/Bell are scum, but this struck me as a genuine reaction of trying to reconcile possibilities based on an earlier mental state that says otherwise.
meh.

[borkjerfkin]

I still don't know where the fuck I'm at w/ Titus.

3585 is definitely something I can see coming from town Titus.

I could also see this being S-S but I have a really hard time seeing it be S-Titus and T-Cakez in particular - just seems like the sort of baseless ticket you don't want to have to write to a townie.

[Tammy]

Bork will you tell me I'm crazy if I tell you that today I did a search for how often you use the word fuck as town v scum because I had a theory and the out of your scum range crew had me thinking my theory was correct?

I got bored though it seems you use the word fuck pretty often, so that was a wasted avenue.

(I also looked up how often you use the word empathize send help.)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bork is scum
cakez is scum

titus might be the last scum

[borkjerfkin]

Bork will you tell me I'm crazy if I tell you that today I did a search for how often you use the word fuck as town v scum because I had a theory and the out of your scum range crew had me thinking my theory was correct?

that, while, uh, not a task i would wish on anybody, is an intellectually honest response
and i'm not surprised you git the answer you got.
even if you hadn't i still feel that nobody who gave that take is trying to do any legitimate meta to get there

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[borkjerfkin]

Bork will you tell me I'm crazy if I tell you that today I did a search for how often you use the word fuck as town v scum

also i changed my mind i'm sigging this instead

[MathBlade]

Bork will you tell me I'm crazy if I tell you that today I did a search for how often you use the word fuck as town v scum because I had a theory and the out of your scum range crew had me thinking my theory was correct?

that, while, uh, not a task i would wish on anybody, is an intellectually honest response
and i'm not surprised you git the answer you got.
even if you hadn't i still feel that nobody who gave that take is trying to do any legitimate meta to get there

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I write post scrapers and omg that’s too much work.

I kinda am not sure whether to lock!town Tammy for it or go that it’s a lie for being so out there and LAMISTy.

Gonna go with the first for now.

[MathBlade]

bork is scum
cakez is scum

titus might be the last scum

I don’t think Bork is scum but Cakez and Titus one if not both are by PoE.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we will see

[Prism]

Grey: Voting mafia Day 1 and then flaking is pretty cool. It sounds like you've had a lot going on irl according to LLD, and the Speakeasy has been quite emotionally tolling on many people lately.

But there's plenty of game to play, and this is a table worth trying for.

[Prism]

I strongly feel this will be worth seeing through to the end, though I know time might not allow for it and you might not even want to.

[Prism]

I guess this requires me doing my part too, doesn't it?

I'll carve out two/three hours and work through bork/Spiffeh ISOs if anyone is around to talk, will be home in 45

[Tammy]

I was going to say that I'd probably be around as I'm working on work stuff right now, but I'm probably going to be asleep fairly soon. But I will have more time to give to the game tomorrow!

[Prism]

This is important enough to go in its own post before I finish.

Tammy and sangres will not be dying tonight.

This is not a crumb (I don't do that), it is a fact.

Carry on.

What's the deal with this?

[Prism]

Okay I'm tired and my ability to work through extended reasoning is fading fast so I'm going to stop early RIP, only halfway through Spiffeh ISO was not nearly my goal but alas

I appreciate all of my friends who followed me onto Dunnstral without hesitation. It really means a lot that I can still get people to do my bidding having not rolled Town in almost a year.

As for Dunny, I am not particularly deterred in my read by his recent posts, but I al wouldn't say my scum read has strengthened since I voted him either. Overall I'd be fine with his lim but would love to explore other options before confidently locking it in.

In other news, I think borkjerfkin could be scum. Can we wagon him too?

VOTE: borkjerfkin

This is a really curious post to me. It's unclear why you swapped the wagon when Dunnstral was nowhere close to elimination, I believe he was at 4 at the time of this post. I'd understand if he was at E-1 but this wasn't even close. My impression of bork's posting in the late 600s was that it was quite strong with the possible exceptions of 694 and 698. Looking ahead to your 788 it looks like you thought the same as me about 694 which was cool! I think your interpretation of 698 for scum bork would be wrong, but it's nitpicky: that post hypothetically would be targeted at getting an LLD townread more than a sangres one. I could go further but very speculative and not worth the space.

I found bork's reply in in 801 wrong but understandable. Of course it doesn't read organic to him, but it does to me because I read 694 without knowing his alignment. Grey also wasn't wrong that the null positioning on Dunn comes off scummy, which doesn't say that it's bad town play or that bork has to be scum or anything.

[In reply to bork saying Spiffeh's push was scummy in 801] Ok now I'm two for two on players vocally suspect coming back and saying my push was scummy. Nice.

I do appreciate that you bothered to explain why you felt this way unlike Dunnstral who just calls me scummy, votes me, and doesn't elaborate.

Again very unclear why you swapped off to begin with here, you've got a few posts in between that state that basically nothing changed/that you had no thoughts on Dunnstral's reaction.

In general I really like your insistence on naming names/being specific when players try to lump people in groups, because that shit is scum 101 and absolutely needs to be called out so thank you for being persistent on that. There's a good interaction with Dunn here that is the hallmark of this where he interrogates Dunn's reaction to MathBlade defenses. I liked that a lot from Spiffeh's end and kind of want to dig more into Dunnstral because of it but trying to stay on track so will revisit later. This sequence starts in 836 if anyone wants to read it.

I am not metadiving into TENET atm but this post from Spiffeh about why Dunnstral's interactions with ffery are scummy is insanely good. If town Dunn is happening to do this and Spiffeh scum is taking advantage, sure, okay, but this game's reasoning is so strong and crisp for scum Spiffeh that it is ridiculous.

1402 is an okay post on Titus but not one I strongly agree with. Kind of curious though because Spiffeh said some of my points against Titus made him reconsider, which I think refers to my 820?, but we are polar opposites on the most important part of that post. I found playing the victim to LLD to be scum theater, Spiffeh seems to think it's town. I found the part of 820 that's a good candidate for agreement, baiting Math back into the thread, a lot more abstract and extremely weak.

Town: {Bell, sangres, Tammy, Mathblade, Kitty Trauma Team}
Townlean: {SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Prism, LLD*}

Random thoughts:
I made this reads list a little top heavy; I'm open to reevaluating my Town reads down the line but I feel good about a lot of people and I wanted my reads list to reflect that. If I were being conservative I'd probably put KTT in Townlean and bork, Prism, and LLD in null.

I'm not sure why bork moved to townlean/null here, I don't think that was ever commented on.

Pretty sure this slot is town but working through the potential issues is a lot more productive imo

Note for myself that 1093 is critically important and need to circle back.

[Prism]

I think the natural response to "Why swap off?" is to just reiterate the wanting to explore, to be clear my point is that more pressure seems like it would have helped rather than abandoning ship so early

I'm pleased by circling back later from what I've seen

[Prism]

yolo ordering before bed. ordered t->s within tiers (ie. titus is scummier than dunnstral)

town
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bell
spiffeh
bork
pooky

maybe
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tammy
mathblade
cakez
greyice
battlemage

gonna be real this tier is really crapshoot other than tammy at the top and every strict ordering felt wrong, bottom 4 are really a bucket where no strict ordering makes sense to me

scum
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dunnstral
titus