Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

[Cabd]

Votecount 1-7

With 9 players alive, it will take 5 votes to eliminate.

GrandpaMo (1): JacksonVirgo
skitter30 (1): Hand of Glory
Hand of Glory (1): GrandpaMo
Ahri (1): Andante
Andante (1): skitter30

Not Voting (4): Fizz Raab, Ahri, GeorgeBailey, PookyTheMagicalBear

The deadline for day one is set at (expired on 2021-03-31 00:59:36)

Mod Note: None.

[skitter30]

ugh i set you up for that >:(

how am i ever possibly going to dethrone you if i keep doing that

[GrandpaMo]

3 - 20 mins lmao.

I think you should know what website im referring to, idk if im allowed to say it just for promotion policies and etc.

tos? you can say the sitename so long as you don't go: 'Site X is the best site ever everyone come and play with me there !!!!!1!' like in middle of a game or whatever

ok so i was guessing something like very short phases - in a game like that, sure, changing your mind in a very short timeframe can be oppurtunistic and seem hypocritical - what new info could you have gotten already between this minute and then one?

but here, timeframes are like irl days, if not weeks, and often times, new information is obtained as different people post differnet things and react to different things. its very, very, very common to reevaluate as new things are posted. this isn't really viewed as hypocritical here, but rather that you're taking new information into account and reassessing based on new events

so it isn't really scum if someone changes their read and stuff? do u have reasons for the pivot? do u think andante is more scum then me.

and thanks @Cabd.

the website is mafia.gg so yea lmao

[skitter30]

it's not inherently viewed as scummy, no. town and scum change thier mind all of the time, the trick is identifying the difference :p

scum usually have more 'oppurtunistic' takes that are more ephemeral and change if convenient, whereas town usually ahve some sort of underlying thought process that motivates their actions
that's how i view the difference at least

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for andante, a few things:
- they feel kinda weird as compared to newbie 2057, which i just played with them. this isn't inherently scummy but is of note
- i dislike their hand of glory take, feels like an easy way to avoid responding/interacting with his content
- i dislike how they say there's scum in you/jv but then vote outside of the pair

i'm not sure they're *more likely* scum than you, but i feel like it's worth exploring

[Andante]

Why is skitter voting me.. what?

[skitter30]

i mean, what part of the above is confusing?

[Andante]

it's not inherently viewed as scummy, no. town and scum change thier mind all of the time, the trick is identifying the difference :p

scum usually have more 'oppurtunistic' takes that are more ephemeral and change if convenient, whereas town usually ahve some sort of underlying thought process that motivates their actions
that's how i view the difference at least

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for andante, a few things:
- they feel kinda weird as compared to newbie 2057, which i just played with them. this isn't inherently scummy but is of note
- i dislike their hand of glory take, feels like an easy way to avoid responding/interacting with his content
- i dislike how they say there's scum in you/jv but then vote outside of the pair

i'm not sure they're *more likely* scum than you, but i feel like it's worth exploring

I didn't even say there's for sure a scum in those 2. I just said JV jumping on was weird. Apparently I'm the only one bothered by the 0 effort from Ahri??

you can't keep comparing me to last game. I literally subbed in there, after so much content, was pretty confident in reads. I told yall I have a hard time reading Hand. so what? and I don't care to read anyone else right now. I want Ahri out.

[Andante]

I mean, I don't feel like I've been scummy this game, saw you were the last post as I clicked the thread, was like "yes!! I can talk to skitter" oh well. whatever

[Andante]

Like, the fact I have put in so much effort, and I believe my posts show that. then Ahri literally hasn't even given a SR and you still vote me?? like what??

[Andante]

So skitter is probably 1 maf, would make sense with all their reads opposite mine, saw me go "slight sr on skitter" now she's like "ok, time to get andante out" whatever, I'm just done for the night, don't even care, no chance I claim, feel free to vote me out

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think the scum team might just be grandpa and JV

i might not summon the energy to write out the case depending on how lazy i feel

i mean who am i kidding

i am like asleep off my sugar high from delicious donuts so i probably wont wake up.

[skitter30]

#165- I hate how GM is asking how many scum there are. Like, I had this exact question last game, but as TOWN, you'd read the setup, so you know how many maf you're trying to find, what the possible PRs are... I had the question, but never actually asked it last game, cause it's easy to find the answer... feels exactly like maf asking pointless questions, cause if you ask a question, you should be trying to go a direction with it.

#169 - JV's entire "read" om GM... it all feels to me like it's part of this agenda to join me and skitter's vote.. convince 2 more to vote out GM. JV literally SRs GM for saying "lmao" like, come on... it feels like this is either town conf biassing GM as maf, or maf pushing for whatever.

I hate the entire JV/GM convo. JV's push doesn't feel genuine at all, yet it looks like skitter feels the opposite of me on this

andante, you right this post basically saying that you dislike both sides of the convo so i don't follow why you're not voting in the convo
do you also really think that my immediate reaction to you syaing slight sr on me is to try to vote you out as scum? why am i not pushing hog or iirc grandpamo?

[skitter30]

*ugh 'write'

[GrandpaMo]

i think the scum team might just be grandpa and JV

i might not summon the energy to write out the case depending on how lazy i feel

i mean who am i kidding

i am like asleep off my sugar high from delicious donuts so i probably wont wake up.

woah bold ass accusation. how much i disagree wit u... i really like that from you LOL

even if i were scum, i would never try to bus as my first day playing forum mafia lmfao too risky for a newbie play like me.

weird take tho. really weird, but its funny thats why i like it.

i dont want to vote someone out who has been giving reads etc like hog and andante lol. there are way better votes then andante, i get why they are overdefensive as i would be too.

it really seems like im defending andante here hard huh? well idk andante to me has played very town and their scumread on ahri makes sense also to note is that they seem like an annoyed town. i better hope my read on you is right andante despite u scumreading me. i still null read ahri as they could really be scummy for lack of contribution or just really towny.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean I don't expect you to be like.

"yea you caught us man, dang how did you do it?"

skitter help

look at these delicious donuts I ended up buying



I'm in a sugar coma >.>

[Andante]

overdefensive? lmao it's just I don't respond well to pressure, especially when I've been nothing but towny,

Pooky, I'll iso GM and JV tomorrow to figure out which of those is better to get. Do you really think Skitter town? Skitter is so different from the last game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not gonna pretend like I can read her.

She just feels so pleasant and nice :>

she posted pictures of cookies she

made herself

I mean can you really vote for something that wholesome and sweet on Day 1?

I can't.

[skitter30]

Pooky those donuts look really yummy!!!

Andante are you going to respond to 286? How am i dissimilar to last game?

FWIW i think grandpamo and andante can be scum together

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dunno I guess I am just a sucker for Andante's AtE >.>

[skitter30]

idk :/ they feel p scummy to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it seems like such an over the top reaction for like 1 vote lol

its way easier for scum to just ignore you :/

[skitter30]

Yes but idk if andante knows that
It doesnt make sense as a real reaction to me really

They feel super, like, scattered and i'm having a hard time understanding how their thoughts and actions make sense together

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean lets say he doesn't know that and he's just a newb who doesn't know how to handle pressure / vote.

Does this type of reaction come more from newb scum or newb town?

I'd think it's more likely from newb town who is like super exasperated and truly doesn't think there's any good reason for why you would vote him.

whereas newb scum might actually like try to figure out how you figured out it was them? Since there is an underlying sense in newb scum that they know you are right.

[JacksonVirgo]

I have a surface level TR on skitz mainly because their entrance felt ballsy in a sense scum wouldn't try. Also the fact they don't have an issue with switching reads, scum tend to stick to it as to not feel opportunistic.

Oh? How was it ballsy?

It just seems overly, hype/exciting in a way that seems too risky for scum to do as it may appear as pockety.

[Hand of Glory]

for andante, a few things:
- they feel kinda weird as compared to newbie 2057, which i just played with them. this isn't inherently scummy but is of note
- i dislike their hand of glory take, feels like an easy way to avoid responding/interacting with his content
- i dislike how they say there's scum in you/jv but then vote outside of the pair

i'm not sure they're *more likely* scum than you, but i feel like it's worth exploring

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree.

VOTE: Andante.

I can see that being my final switch for D1, though not because I would have given up on exploration.

FWIW i think grandpamo and andante can be scum together

Maybe.

actually im gonna do something...

UNVOTE: JacksonVirgo

VOTE: Hand of Glory

I'm not sure if I like this.