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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:57 am

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In post 1520, VFP wrote:
In post 1498, Tsutsu wrote:What is your read on T3, Mastina, Flea?
Scum / Null / Town

T3 - Started early saying they read the game, didn't and proved that by asking who claimed (Mom's claim).
Just hasn't been reading the game and posting to be there.
Claims my role can't work because of a theroy but won't discuss this until tomorrow.
Plausible mis lynch, but sometimes scummy is just scum.

Mastina I don't know. I just see a lot of players only rely on meta or late game. I don't see much difference from mastina with my 1 completed game.

Flea I just like the posting provided. Unless I was just being mocked earlier, I think decent points were said from Flea.
In post 1499, Tsutsu wrote:what about xtoxm, Mozamis, Auro?
Town / Scum / Lower Null

Xtoxm I like how they are progressing the game, just feels town. I felt confident enought to protect them last ngiht.

Moz I already said about this slot. Just scum with a lot of posts, lack of content and pushing the narrative that scum is in low posters. That said, not pushing or trying for particular low posting slots.
Resistence to the wagon for unknown reasons.

Auro I don't dislike the idea of Auro town. I was thinking slightly town until Auro mis repped what I said about T3 and scum theater. Felt like Auro didn't actually read the pages of today and just took snips out. So not for saying I'm scum, but pretending to read the game. Plausible just town not wanting to read yet either.
If you are legitimately a newbie and not an alt, your play is extremely impressive just saying. I read you wrong here. Sorry.
I don't agree with your reads but I'll keep them in mind for tomorrow.
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:57 am

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In post 1144, Flea The Magician wrote:Bugspray hasn;t really stood out beyond what I pointed initially and that they're super into this game, which honestly I'm just assuming means they're not overgamed for once :P
Guess what the OkaPoka tell ensues? :P
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:59 am

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In post 1155, OutWorldER wrote:I'm pretty much onboard with Xtox about Moz at this point and I think that slot is low-hanging fruit being pushed by scum. I don't like Anya here at all and that Moz case feels like scum trying to look high effort.
More or less what I'm thinking, yes.
mozamis town; bugspray scum; Anya not lockscum but a reasonably decent chance of being scum.
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:00 pm

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in your one completed game with mastina, what alignment was she
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:00 pm

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In post 1528, Tsutsu wrote:in your one completed game with mastina, what alignment was she
Town.
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:00 pm

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In post 1525, Tsutsu wrote:If you are legitimately a newbie and not an alt, your play is extremely impressive just saying. I read you wrong here. Sorry.
I don't have a grudge with you. I just like being a stubborn asshole :mrgreen:
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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:01 pm

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I did replace in though, so I didn't have the live knowldge of the game. I think I joined in day 3, and mastina died night 5.
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:01 pm

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In post 1529, VFP wrote:
In post 1528, Tsutsu wrote:in your one completed game with mastina, what alignment was she
Town.
hm. ok. I'll potentially resort mastina then. maybe she doesn't belong in the scum pile. maybe she does. we'll see.
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:02 pm

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She'll probably obvtown eventually if town. So I won't worry about it.
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:02 pm

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In post 1199, Auro wrote:Sadly, I think Mastina might be scum this game :(
I am literally conftown this game and you should know it. You're not so blind as to be unable to read the writing on the wall.
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:04 pm

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If I say flea is definitely scum, VFP what is the town case on faer?
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:06 pm

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I have been super confident in flea scum for a long time but I have held back solely because of mom. I'm not sure if this is the right decision and I am very conflicted on this.
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:06 pm

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In post 1220, Auro wrote:Mastina, can you talk about your familiarity with Momrangal and how likely you'd kill her early if you rolled scum against her?
Momrangal and I have literally not had a chance to play together aside from DBZ--a game where she was scum.

I've zero gauge for her abilities as a town player right now but she very much wouldn't be my top kill priority. She's not someone I've ever had as a N1 nightkill priority, not when I was intimately familiar with her and not now either where fortune conspires to keep us a part. In fact until she 'crumbed her role (I misidentified it as crumbing ascetic), I was planning on targeting her N1. And my iso will even tell you as much as I was very unsubtle about this. As in I explicitly and blatantly said it.

You don't nightkill the player you're intending to target with your role. :P

(Also I'm conftown here, so. Literally am the opposite of being scum.)
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:06 pm

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And by super confident, I mean nearly 3 pages into the game, I was certain.
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:07 pm

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In post 1537, mastina wrote:I've zero gauge for her abilities as a town player
Mom is one of the most impressive town players ever. I admire her game an extreme amount and she's the best <3
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:07 pm

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In post 1228, Gypyx wrote:
In post 1227, Auro wrote:Mastina loves to talk about her reads as town. Her posts here feel a little... non-committal and empty compared to what I've usually seen from town!Mastina. Take a 1-minute skim of her ISO, would you still say there's not much of a difference from the last game you've seen of her?
disagree on that one, she's actually trying to solve what the blocs means alignement-wise, which is very town-motivated imo
and heck, I don't see how she's not discussing reads even
Yes, which is a red flag for Auro--he should bloody well know better than this.
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:09 pm

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sigh
this is why I don't like large themes, moooom :<
so messy.
everyone feels scummy.
+ this playerlist doesn't even know me well.
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:09 pm

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large normals I mean
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:10 pm

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I wish mom was here ;(
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:10 pm

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In post 1491, mastina wrote:I'm borderline delirious right now, dizzy, lightheaded, eyes zoning out into the distance, and also behind that very very deeply depressed, but I still gotta try to play anyway
Just to say if you ever want or need to talk my pms and discord are open to you <3
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:10 pm

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In post 1243, Auro wrote:Setup speculation is the most obvious thing scum!Mastina would know to fake.
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I'm pretty damn sure I've never once setup specc'd as scum.

Which given that I've played by now probably literally over a hundred scumgames onsite is a pretty damn impressive statement, but I'm fairly certain it's true.

Setup spec is a hallmark of my towngame, not my scumgame.
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:11 pm

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In post 1247, bugspray wrote:VOTE: vfp
And people wonder why I think bugspray is scum. :P
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:12 pm

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In post 1535, Tsutsu wrote:If I say flea is definitely scum, VFP what is the town case on faer?
It's not a strong one to explain.
I think half the posts Flea make give more content that credit is given for.
When I was talking with Flea earlier (again I'm going to assume it was legit mis understanding each other) Flea looks to be trying to get the point through properly. Seemed geniune.
I think I remember Flea worried about tunneling Moz and was looking outside of Moz. Could have just sat on Moz as scum. I would need to go through the game again though encase I'm remember thing wrong but thought it as a possitive originally.
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:13 pm

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In post 1502, mastina wrote:
In post 1095, Almost50 wrote:What?? How do you reconcile any "groupspec" with this:
In post 1, schadd_ wrote: something to understand is that
these groups will be chosen by me
(as well as my team of consultants) to
try to be as
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as possible
. to the best of my ability,
i will organize the groups in a way that disrupts gameplay
, creates
unreasonable power dynamics
and overvalues certain players' votes,
exacerbates personality clashes
, and generates a wave of Pure Nonsense that will influence execution choices. as such, this is a bastard game, however this paragraph is the extent of the bastardness: i will try not to create any obvious alignment information in these assignments (unless it is very funny) and nothing else is fishy i promise - it will be 15:4, normal setup (which you can expect to be not insane), no mod lying, etc. i hope to create a game that you can still theoretically take seriously in spite of it all.
??
With this.

The bolded are what I can work with.

schadd_ has a working understanding of many of the players here.

Distributing them in a disruptive way with unreasonable power dynamics and personality clashes is exactly why I feel that my group on D1 was me and two scum and that the Momrangal mozamis Vaxkiller group was all town. And I'm pretty damn confident in it being mostly or entirely true.

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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:13 pm

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In post 1547, VFP wrote:Flea looks to be trying to get the point through properly.
Ok but what if I tell you that Flea almost always gets flashwagoned before day 3?
Why does everyone here think the faerie is very towny?
Have you ever thought about that?
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