Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

[WhemeStar]

Mine

[JacksonVirgo]

Mine

Hmmmm

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

You vote me right after saying you didnt like Fizz's post and explain none of it

[JacksonVirgo]

*reading my iso*
*every single post fixated on Andante*

anyways I'm 90% sure Andante is flipping red here, given this main reason:

he's not scumhunting, but rather looking for the "easiest" or "best" elimination. what i mean by that is that he is prodding to see if people will vote me for having no content, he's voting jackson bc he's in a hotspot, and constantly asking "hm can i push this person?"

thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

back to lurking.

This feels realy self-conscious

[Andante]

*reading my iso*
*every single post fixated on Andante*

anyways I'm 90% sure Andante is flipping red here, given this main reason:

he's not scumhunting, but rather looking for the "easiest" or "best" elimination. what i mean by that is that he is prodding to see if people will vote me for having no content, he's voting jackson bc he's in a hotspot, and constantly asking "hm can i push this person?"

thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

back to lurking.

This feels realy self-conscious

Ahri says I'm looking for the easiest, when I'm literally voting Jackson for reasons stated, but Ahri is sus of me cause I called her maf... and she's not looking for the easiest?? come on

[JacksonVirgo]

Im out so Ill post more in depth when I get to my computer

[skitter30]

Heya! I will catch up in a few hours :)

[JacksonVirgo]

Welcome back!

[skitter30]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

since george decided to sub, I'll give the slot a chance

I still want to flip andante ^

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Hi jv!

[skitter30]

WhemeStar replaces in for George Baily. Please welcome him!

Hello again wheme!

[skitter30]

lmaooo ready for my unpopular take which I'm pretty certain on. Wheme is maf, like, sure get me today, get Wheme tomorrow and final is in skitter/Jackson. I'm not saying this just cause like "omg they're voting me" no it's like, a pretty dead certain read. Wheme feels identical to 2057, and skitter is very different.

Uh ?

[skitter30]

Is that something that you would say as scum?

I have, yes

[skitter30]

those currently sus of me know I'm flipping town, like, this can not be any more clear. Anyone notice where ahri went? nope, cause Ahri has no votes on her now... we don't have to sit here for 10 days guys.. we can get it done before the 10...

Not everyone voting you can be scum, ya know

[skitter30]

I townread a lot of people

Quick tldr?

[skitter30]

Cabd i hope your basement is ok
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I still dont really townread andante, maybe i'm tunneled idk

[JacksonVirgo]

@skitter, why do you town-read grandpa again?

I feel like, even recently, they've been out there to defend themselves weirdly even recently. For example, they said they were going to say something about their own tonal shift? Unless I misread that's wack.

[skitter30]

He feels kinda genuine and even if i dont necessarily agree with his takes i can tell he is thinking abt the game
And he's trying to move the game along

[JacksonVirgo]

fwiw its just nai. and yea i was, i didnt wanna say anything because i thought the convo would be irrelevant hence why i said its nai. its the specific context of what u say in those reads matter. i just was getting scumread and i was taking my time wit my tone to appear towny as possibly as town but i realized ppl get townread when they have a memish tone for example. so whats the point? yk?

This post in particular, is literally admitting to having a forced tone and all too knowledgeable of the way they are posting in a way that I rarely see in Town. From memory, I do not think they've even attempted to debunk the fact they purposefully omitted information to make me look bad, if so I would like that to be brought to my attention. They've had a complete tone shift on me, even though they still scum-read me and they've been acting extremely pocketish towards when I started backing off from the death-tunnel (not backing off from scum-reading them, I should add). I feel they're not genuine at all with a combination of purposeful manipulation and self-aware of how they're posting.

Although, mind if you explain as to why you feel they're posting genuinely. Also I think progressing the game doesn't mean too much, especially early game where I find, as scum, it's easier to blend in as we don't have that much solid information to go off.

[JacksonVirgo]

Is that something that you would say as scum?

I have, yes

Alright I'll throw that particular tell out the window then

[skitter30]

I mean but what scum admits faking tone tho?
Also i think scum tend to just allow the stagnation continue without trying to do anything abt it

[JacksonVirgo]

I mean but what scum admits faking tone tho?
Also i think scum tend to just allow the stagnation continue without trying to do anything abt it

They seem to be actively trying to pocket me/others and stay on the passive instead of just outright trying to counter my attacks as their aggressive strikes have flopped hard before.

At the moment, I feel they saw me as easy LHF from the start of the game due to how I wasn't posting (and them being used to smaller game sizes), they decide to shade me to try and get my view in the town downgraded. I respond with an instant attack on their shade with my aggressivish playstyle which they don't expect, so they start trying to figure out a way out of what I called them out on (being manipulative, omitting information, general LAMIST behaviour) but can't so they semi-admit it's the truth so they are semi-forced to back out as much as possible without looking bad so they have me at a FoS/SL and focus on Pooky and when I call them out again they don't want to be stuck in an impasse so they go with what I say to try and get me to back out.

[skitter30]

I mean sure they sort of bit off more than they can chew in pushing you and tried to back off, but i'm not sure that makes them scum

Also not sure they're trying to pocket people, or that they pushed you for being lhf

[skitter30]

I

mean sure they sort of bit off more than they can chew in pushing you and tried to back off

, but i'm not sure that makes them scum

Like why is this more likely to come from scum than town

Also, what do u think of andante?

[JacksonVirgo]

I mean sure they sort of bit off more than they can chew in pushing you and tried to back off, but i'm not sure that makes them scum

Also not sure they're trying to pocket people, or that they pushed you for being lhf

The way I interpreted the initial shade was exactly shading me since I was LHF. Regarding pocketing, mind reading back on the tonal shift when addressing me and tell me your thoughts on that?

[JacksonVirgo]

I

mean sure they sort of bit off more than they can chew in pushing you and tried to back off

, but i'm not sure that makes them scum

Like why is this more likely to come from scum than town

Also, what do u think of andante?

Because I don't see town!them outright manipulating people in our initial interaction and then have a complete tonal shift once they've realised they're losing grip. It's not only them just choosing to not interact with me, they've completely yeeted the way they treated their read on me that's not in the way of just evaluating elsewhere. Their wording and their tone just don't align with a genuine town making reads, and being heavily called out

for

said reads.

Andante I originally gut-pinned them as Town, but over time their posting has degraded that to a SR. Grandpa is by far my stronger scum-read, but them followed by Pooky. Andante is contradicting their own defined town-mindset as well as taking my own words out of context against me, instant OMGUS towards me even though I was not even pushing hard for their elim

I would much prefer a Grandpa elimination over an Andante one, but I wouldn't mind either way but I am getting a little pause from Andante as a few of their posts hit me different in a tone type of way, such as getting super heated when feeling they're being sole targeted and just breaking down in a way. Actually, thinking about it now, who did Grandpa say that they thought were getting bussed if they flip scum?

[GrandpaMo]

fwiw its just nai. and yea i was, i didnt wanna say anything because i thought the convo would be irrelevant hence why i said its nai. its the specific context of what u say in those reads matter. i just was getting scumread and i was taking my time wit my tone to appear towny as possibly as town but i realized ppl get townread when they have a memish tone for example. so whats the point? yk?

This post in particular, is literally admitting to having a forced tone and all too knowledgeable of the way they are posting in a way that I rarely see in Town. From memory, I do not think they've even attempted to debunk the fact they purposefully omitted information to make me look bad, if so I would like that to be brought to my attention. They've had a complete tone shift on me, even though they still scum-read me and they've been acting extremely pocketish towards when I started backing off from the death-tunnel (not backing off from scum-reading them, I should add). I feel they're not genuine at all with a combination of purposeful manipulation and self-aware of how they're posting.

Although, mind if you explain as to why you feel they're posting genuinely. Also I think progressing the game doesn't mean too much, especially early game where I find, as scum, it's easier to blend in as we don't have that much solid information to go off.

ommitting info does not equal tone. i said everything i had to say back then and still agree to it.