In post 2155, mastina wrote: In post 2095, mozamis wrote:I still find it hard to understand why a player of your calibre and experience basically said nothing about the whole Anya/Math tihng and left your vote doing nothing on Bugspray, and not pushing Bugspray at all.
In Anya v MathBlade, there was not much to say: MathBlade's play made him almost certainly town from it. Anya's play was also probably town, but due to the nature of the play, demanded a policy-elimination. I said both of these things yesterday and there was nothing more that needed to be said on the subject. I didn't push for a bugspray elimination yesterday because there wasn't much point--Anya was a policy elimination that I agreed with eliminating on policy alone. I thought her town, but there was a chance the play was scum and even if not, it is up to us as a community to punish the type of play Anya made to ensure scum never DO try it and hide behind the "town do this so I did it too" excuse, and the only punishment we can inflict is an elimination, to help teach players that that sort of play is not acceptable for good reason. The elimination was 100% going to be Anya yesterday. I couldn't push against it especially not when I agreed with the policy behind it.
However just because the elimination was guaranteed to be Anya doesn't mean that I can't continue to point out why bugspray is opportunistic-as-fuck scum who is coasting by.
I also have, without fail, voted him the entirety of the game. I've cast a grand total of one non-bugspray vote, on D1, and I immediately revoted bugspray less than 5 minutes later, so effectively, my vote has been on him the entire game, and will continue to be there until he flips, because bugspray is the BBMolla of this game. (Gypyx and MathBlade will get the reference. tris might, too.)
VOTE: bugspray.
<3 MathBlade <3
In post 2047, MathBlade wrote:I think hybrid a50’s and Mastina’s reads from yesterday and this should be good.
The thought did cross my mind, but the only read of his I'm comfortable instantly and immediately sheeping without a deep delve into further nuances of the game is bugspray as scum. Further than that would require more review and thought.
Says the person who very likely was the one who ordered it.
This claim is probably real.
It is also probably scum.
Explicitly so, yes.
I agree.
REGARDLESS OF TRIS'S ALIGNMENT, I am pretty sure this makes T3 town. Scum wouldn't fake a clear on scum in this contrived, convoluted way. And if town then the clear is probably a legit clear.
I can see a N3 messenger cop coexisting with a 2x tracker fairly easily here, and I believe the claim is more likely to come from town than from scum, even if it was slightly botched. (Also, tris didn't need to reveal herself to T3 if scum with the messenger role but did so anyway.)
With this in mind, this is where I'm at for an initial D4 readslist:
Gypyx
Randy Savage/MathBlade
T3
tris
Vaxkiller
mozamis
Noraa/Tsutsu
Flea the Magician
OutWorldER
lendunistus
Auro
bugspray
Role-wise basically conftown; setup mech-spec townreads; play-wise strong townreads; null; lean scum; scumread; very very very strongly scumread to the point of being as scum as scum can be without a cop guilty. (As in the only way bugspray could be more scum to me is with a cop guilty.)
