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[clidd]

[clidd]

I'm going to stop there for tonight. I need to think more on April Ludgate.

I still think April Ludgate is scum and posts like the one below don't help.

I actually quite like this post. It feels shitposty but at the same time there's some interesting content in it.

I'm glad you get me...

and I feel similar vibes coming from clidd there as well

For Da dude:

Da dude has a lot of very useless posts but I think he is trying. I don't find what he is doing to be scum indicative and I am inclined to say his wagon is being pushed by scum. Scum April.

I did not like Entrapta for many reasons but Da dude is much townier actually. He isn't trying to stop his own elimination. He is very relaxed and trying to provide content as well. He reminds me a bit of my first newbie game and the frustration that I was masking. I think he is trying hard to not let his frustration show through and I town read it.

I think Da dude is town.

TMI on dadude.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

His playstyle seemed to follow an interpersonal pattern of expression, like a character, but nothing that really indicated frustration.

[Titus]

there doesn't so far seem any interference from scum in any of the roles, everyone has said their actions have gone through i believe. which makes me think that either scum have a role/ability that screws with our PRs, or else they PRs aren't all they appear to be.

scum don't need to screw with the PRs because the PRs aren't very strong to begin with.

the gunsmiths are gated and have 6 "guilty" results and half of them are town
the neapolitian has 7 "guilty" results and 4 of them are town.
the detective is novice, can really only nail one of the scum so he's only useful if he goes long into the game but even then probably won't get a useful result.
the psychologist is a one shot and they only get a hit on 2/12 players?

Like there's really no reason to give the scum any powers to counter any of this, it's fairly balanced as claimed.

Someone should vote Flea or Clidd.

I would, but I'm already voting Clidd and weakly TR flea.

[Titus]

Maybe it's just as simple as 1 of
Titus / Gera/ Flea
Clidd / Gera/ Flea

Not sure on Gera, as I haven't seen their posts yet but Flea is likely wrong given Clidd's panic spam.

[clidd]

then good

VOTE: Gretchen

But you should definitely know of my ability to break down walls

Nothing too important in the next page but I don't like this at all.

I am now pretty certain the scum team is April Ludgate, Entrapta, and Clidd.

I thought you were towny for your poking and prodding but now I think it was all just for show. I hate the vote switch there and I think Flavorleaf is scum again.

Town: bugspray, Gretchen
Null: Minimegabyte, AliceK, Ydrasse
Scum: Clidd, Entrapta, April Ludgate

Every time my eyes go through this post, my brain cannot interpret how a town reasoning would come to that conclusion on D1.

To suggest that you're scumreading a specific set of players is one thing, but to say that you are very sure on who is the scumteam is quite absurd. Town!Amélie wouldn't believe that.

It is the kind of false bravado that seems to be more likely a product of an unsuccessful emulation of a town self-confidence than a genuine feeling.

[Titus]

Yup still Clidd posting 7-8ish posts in a row without interacting with anyone. Good with my vote.

Clidd posted much sparser in Nancy Drew and actually interacted when he did post.

[clidd]

Like I said, I have many ways of playing my games.

Do you think everything I'm saying about your slot is invented from a scum perspective?

[Flea The Magician]

@clidd, Calling something bad without presenting anything of your own is a common, but not universal, scum tactic. VCA is a tool available for everyone but weak this early. How does Faer's vca help you read him but the inverse wouldn't be true?

Extremely political comment. The question is formulated in bad faith, because at no time had I said that Flea's vca was essential for me to read fae.

I'm going to extend this back to you, in that many of your "questions" and your criticisms were in bad faith.

[Flea The Magician]

It feels like Flea is trying to make me vote faer for some reason.

Why do you feel like that?

"instead or asking what is clidd's read on flea, or what flea's read is on clidd, let me ask something that it won't help me sort clidd to create a spark"

FOr example this is a legitimate question I'm interested in seeing and answer to, and your non-response is bad faith smoke and mirrors.

[Flea The Magician]

@clidd, If you're town, actually make me want to read your posts. You weren't like this in Nancy Drew.

False impartiality. Atm I'm 80% sure that Titus is not coming from an uninformed/ genuine/ that needs to actively find out who is scum/perspective.

Disproving meta with redirection.

Just rechecked, Pooky is a PR claim which makes it suboptimal to eliminate him, but he knows that. :/

More fillers.

Coming from the king of them.

Eyeballing day 1, is there a clear on Pooky? There's a lot of green on Pooky and he got to L minus 1.

Here too.

Point proven xD

Most accurate gif of the game, stirring the pot

[Titus]

It feels like Flea is trying to make me vote faer for some reason.

Why do you feel like that?

"instead or asking what is clidd's read on flea, or what flea's read is on clidd, let me ask something that it won't help me sort clidd to create a spark"

FOr example this is a legitimate question I'm interested in seeing and answer to, and your non-response is bad faith smoke and mirrors.

Like I said, I have many ways of playing my games.

Do you think everything I'm saying about your slot is invented from a scum perspective?

I think you're just dodging my questions and digging up random stuff from my prior slot holder to see what can stick knowing that I'd have zero idea what they were thinking.

[clidd]

@Titus

You weren't even interested in reading any of the posts from that set that I mentioned when you joined the game.

There is 0 of interest in you to understand if what I am saying about your slot is coming from town or scum.

[Titus]

@Clidd, Just because I am not reading your spam =/= no intent to understand. What you're doing now shows much more about your intent to read my slot than any individual post does.

I already have a weak TR on Flea and a would flip but for strategy reasons on Pooky and that's despite your spam. I like VFP trying too but I wouldn't say I have a read there yet.

[clidd]

I mean, you are robotic, political and slow and many of the impressions I had about Amélie are still in my head.

But sure, I can slow down a bit.

[VFP]

I would also expect the scum to take a no bus position here.

If all the PR claims are true, then scum need every role to deal with them and outlast the clears. If the claims are false, then scum likely already took the no bus position and feel rather weak on dayplay.

I actually fully agree with this.

Flea The Magician (3)- LlamaFluff, PookyTheMagicalBear, RLotus (E-2)

clidd (3)- geraintm, Titus, Flea The Magician (E-2)

But which one...

[clidd]

The point is that you have not reacted properly in the way I imagine town!Titus would act after seeing the growing number of my posts denigrating the image of her predecessor.

Even your recent answer seems fake to me.

[clidd]

Well, 80% is not 100%, and I'm not ignorant to the point of saying that my read on you is absolute, of course.

So, yeah, I can stop with the Amélie-is-scum-look, but I don’t guarantee that my vision will change.

At least not now.

[Titus]

The point is that you have not reacted properly in the way I imagine town!Titus would act after seeing the growing number of my posts denigrating the image of her predecessor.

Even your recent answer seems fake to me.

This is caged scum saying nothing. No response would ever fit the definition of town!Titus for you.

[clidd]

I can collaborate for ethical reasons, sure, but I still think you are scum with the information I have atm and how you have been playing since you replaced in.

pedit: Hum..

[clidd]

You mean that I have you as a caged scum in my mind and nothing you do is actually going to change my view?

[Titus]

You mean that I have you as a caged scum in my mind and nothing you do is actually going to change my view?

No. That you're caged scum and therefore would say that regardless. There is a rare chance of town you flail spamming, but I don't see it given your utter lack of sorting anyone else since I got here.

[Titus]

I would also expect the scum to take a no bus position here.

If all the PR claims are true, then scum need every role to deal with them and outlast the clears. If the claims are false, then scum likely already took the no bus position and feel rather weak on dayplay.

I actually fully agree with this.

Flea The Magician (3)- LlamaFluff, PookyTheMagicalBear, RLotus (E-2)

clidd (3)- geraintm, Titus, Flea The Magician (E-2)

But which one...

What are your thoughts on each wagon?

[VFP]

What are your thoughts on each wagon?

I believe one wagon has scum. 2-3
And 1 wagon is most likely full town

[clidd]

You mean that I have you as a caged scum in my mind and nothing you do is actually going to change my view?

No. That you're caged scum and therefore would say that regardless. There is a rare chance of town you flail spamming, but I don't see it given your utter lack of sorting anyone else since I got here.

Ok, let's say that we're living in a world where we're both wrong about each other being scum (hypothetically speaking).

What advice would you give to town!Clidd rn?

[clidd]

''Stop the spam'', yeah, I can see that coming, but besides that.