Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Andresvmb]

(But so far you're pushing 2 of the 3 town PR claims, just keeping note of that)

I think you’re neglecting to mention the very obvious mitigant that one of the claims was fake, and I very obviously didn’t believe it and called it Scummy (which, btw, I was right about). You can say whatever, but that’s the fact.

And if you want to call me Scummy, just do it. Don’t do this chicken shit thing where you shade me by “taking note” of something I’m doing but not saying what you mean.

[Andresvmb]

Also @Asteria you should out your result. I think it’s time. It clears a player. Like why not do it? They would either exactly be the Mafia Doctor, a Traitor right, or Town. And the odds that you hit the Mafia Doctor aren’t particularly high. I don’t know that I fully understand the logic of not revealing it. The idea that it will potentially catch a Scum fake claiming seems really far fetched - given the claims we’ve gotten already, I wouldn’t fake claim anything as Scum unless I was certain it wouldn’t get CC’ed, and that’s really difficult.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Neaps can't get false guilties lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean Neaps can't get false innocents.

they can get false guilties.

a VT result from a Neapo is guaranteed VT, there's no role that messes with a Neapo's result.

Except maybe

THE ONE RING

[Andresvmb]

I mean Neaps can't get false innocents.

they can get false guilties.

a VT result from a Neapo is guaranteed VT, there's no role that messes with a Neapo's result.

Except maybe

THE ONE RING

Yeah so in this setup it most likely clears someone. Why wouldn’t we want to know that?

[Datisi]

vote count 2.05

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-04-30 18:15:00).

execution

DKKoba [2]:

T3, Anya

Andante [1]:

VFP

Anya [1]:

DkKoba

VFP [1]:

Andresvmb

Asteria [1]:

Andante

not voting [5]:

osuka, PookyTheMagicalBear, Salsabil Faria, InsidiousLemons, Asteria

mod notes

~ one two seven three

flavour

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yeah so in this setup it most likely clears someone. Why wouldn’t we want to know that?

we do

ofc we want the neap to claim the inno

[Datisi]

@datisi

hypothetically if a weak vig were to target a mafia player and the vig was roleblocked, does the weak vig die?

the weak vig would not die.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm almost thinking we just bite the bullet and yeet koba in hopes that Datisi wouldn't stick us with some garbage role like weak vigilante

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i've literally never seen a weak vig in my entire life

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

has any1 ever seen a mini normal with a weak vig?

cuz right now for us to believe Koba we'd have to believe the mafia have a roleblocker and a doctor to fight a weak vig?

ffs that should never pass review right

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

but datisi is the most scum-sided of all the normal mods :/

his heart is filled with darkness

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i know he's laughing at me right now

its times like these I really wish I had gotten a scum role pm :<

[VFP]

I believe Dk
I don't believe that we have 3 town PRs out of the claim though.

[Asteria]

Um that was clearly a joke. Don't like that you're pushing that at all

You can go back and look at my live reaction at the time - I clearly took it seriously then, not just now. I now realize I need to not take anything Pooky says seriously, but we haven’t played before, so it takes some adjusting.

That's fair but based on what we know about the setup and it being a normal you should have known it was a joke

[Asteria]

I'm not too sure honestly. Sometimes it really just comes to scum didn't do the ideal thing. If Koba really is scum though we'll find out soon I'm sure.

Okay yeah sometimes the Scum don’t do the ideal thing. But this one is pretty straightforward. A Town fake claiming and maintaining that claim for the rest of the day is not an entirely common occurrence - it usually gets found out or retracted quickly. I think my conclusion is pretty straightforward - if the Tracker is dead, what the weak Vig does is irrelevant. You let them shoot because if they shoot wrong, they kill Town. If they shoot right, they die. Or at the very least, it appears the Scum acted with this thought process in mind. C’mon, nothing else explains why RMH is dead, let’s get real. It was very obviously tied to their claim.

Yeah I'm not really sure what to think. What you're saying for sure makes sense and Koba's claim was done pretty badly. But I'm sure a weak vig will solve itself and so far we have a viable explanation for the guns.

[Asteria]

(But so far you're pushing 2 of the 3 town PR claims, just keeping note of that)

I think you’re neglecting to mention the very obvious mitigant that one of the claims was fake, and I very obviously didn’t believe it and called it Scummy (which, btw, I was right about). You can say whatever, but that’s the fact.

And if you want to call me Scummy, just do it. Don’t do this chicken shit thing where you shade me by “taking note” of something I’m doing but not saying what you mean.

I'm not counting pushing Robert. You're pushing Koba and you were pushing me a few pages ago. If you're scum and you know these claims are true it would make sense, since there is suspicion around the claims. As town it would make a lot more sense to want to let it resolve itself and to just have lighter suspicion rather than a full push

[Asteria]

Also @Asteria you should out your result. I think it’s time. It clears a player. Like why not do it? They would either exactly be the Mafia Doctor, a Traitor right, or Town. And the odds that you hit the Mafia Doctor aren’t particularly high. I don’t know that I fully understand the logic of not revealing it. The idea that it will potentially catch a Scum fake claiming seems really far fetched - given the claims we’ve gotten already, I wouldn’t fake claim anything as Scum unless I was certain it wouldn’t get CC’ed, and that’s really difficult.

Just to be clear you're describing what Andante's results would look like. Mine says that my target is a vanilla townie. I can conftown someone

[Asteria]

My conftown result is VFP

I targeted them because people were scumreading them at the end of the day and I didn't think they were scum.

[Asteria]

Oh and the reason I held off so long is because VFP was getting scumread a bunch we were getting good info for when I outed the result.

[Anya]

so vfp is town unless we have a DkKoba asteria vfp house party exactly

[Asteria]

So this is the pool now. We're likely dealing with 3 scum in my pool of 6

Andante - Gunsmith
InsidiousLemons - Hardtown read
DkKoba - Vig
Asteria - Neapolitan
VFP - VT

Pool:

T3
Salsabil Faria
osuka
Anya
Andresvmb
PookyTheMagicalBear

[Anya]

is it "your" pool because you have some friends in there

[Anya]

and why are all the role claims automatically town

btw asteria i'm actually a town triple voter

[InsidiousLemons]

so vfp is town unless we have a DkKoba asteria vfp house party exactly

seems so. though if any one of them flips scum, it makes it all but confirmed that the others are as well. i'm still adamant most of these roleclaims are fake though lol