Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[Kismet]

but idk i feel like im coming off very aloof and detached from the game as a whole, and I just don't see how my behaviour could come from a scum slot.

don't really feel like this has to be AI
if it is then it's indicative you're an alignment you don't like playing as vs the other

but i mean there's more to it then that
if the gamestate is in a place where it behooves you to do nothing, that can be a very viable scum strat. not saying it makes you scum, but i just don't see where you're coming from when you say it makes you town

[Kismet]

probably out-ish for the night but i am mulling over:

if nm flips town, who am i wrong on in:

{noddy, infinity, vft, dc, mara}

because i literally have to be wrong on someone in that list at that point.

[Iverson]

What? I'm out of range already? What a shame.

[notscience]

noddy do you have any history of bulge acting like this before? because this is just not jibing w/ me on any experience i've ever had w/ him (which admittedly isn't that much)

no

This is new territory for me too lmao

My first instinct was him writing me off so easy was weird normally he plays it super close to the vest and thats something both of us have done as scum (accidentally let on too strong a townread on the other)

And in general his levels of engagement are on how much a puzzle there is to solve/he likes being in the murky PoE area anyways to get reads. Him being in the ideal area to get reads and not trying to really engage is concerning. Like in Illicit he was outside of his comfort zone and the game was harder.

But like I know he got lost in tenet

BUT IF HES HERE RN

why does this gamestate say you are town

explain im five pls ty

ninja-
I was thinking about it on the way home and remember nachos early townread on salsa and hes typically a newbie whisperer so im kinda fine slotting you as town for now

Everything youre doing is par for the course and I know I dont have a scum baseline for you but this is the lens I want to try.

[Kismet]

What? I'm out of range already? What a shame.

this to me?

[Kismet]

But like I know he got lost in tenet

i forgot bulge was even _in_ tenet and then i realize it was your slot

[notscience]

Bork I think I owe nacho popcorn shots.

I'm reading his big readslist wall right now. I'm really confused why Mara thinks she is likely to die if town. and this isn't me saying I am going to die- I think you have the highest chance of dying, they won't let the two of us get to the final day together. VFT/Infinity maybe.

I agree with nachos points about one of the four of us having scum in it because that's where my mind went right after his townflip, that stunted wagon would have to have had scum on it given how hard I had to work to get it going.

ninja-
Yeah he was giffy lmao

Except Id show him some shit cabd was doing and hed be like "yeah hes fucking scum dude"

[Kismet]

Illicit

most of my baseline is from illicit

that game was MUCH faster than this one but he still seemed like he had a lot to offer there, and really got some good shots in on me early.

checking very briefly to see if he was under pressure in that game and I don't think he really was; even so 1089 from this game is fucking bizarre

[Kismet]

I'm really confused why Mara thinks she is likely to die if town

me too but this is another thing i'm not sure she does as scum.
i mean, i wouldn't.
at least, i'd feel like a giant fraud for even going there.

[notscience]

He was cleared by d2 in illicit bork, you don't remember how he started lurking it out because he got disengaged from it?

Which reminds me I never got the PTs from illicit >:(

[Kismet]

He was cleared by d2 in illicit bork, you don't remember how he started lurking it out because he got disengaged from it?

yeah, i remember. game was in a weird spot by that point, but i do remember.

[notscience]

But yeah like

id expect him to sink his teeth into SOMETHING by now

Maybe hes banking on me succumbing to pressure wrt him again but like... meh

I was looking at nacho's wall and he had some interesting points WRT mena

ninja-
yeah, so like this is like after he got cleared, which is weird, because he is in no way cleared here and should be able to sink his teeth in more

BULGE IM TALKIN SHIT AND STAYING UP TO EAT LO MEIN WHERE ARE YOU

[Iverson]

It was a joke since I was not in the list, yes.

[notscience]

Disaster Cartel: I'm at the point where I really hope that we're not in the position it's 2-2 and we have to find scum #5 but this would probably be the best bet. I didn't like Mena's early approach to me in 508 - the idea that I should have been townreading him because we had some similar reads and he voted L&G before me is an easy reason to townread me. I also don't like how he votes L&G - he votes them and then talks about how scum won't bus in this setup and is sure to point out that he voted them before me, as if he's trying to get townread for a correct vote. I don't like his approach to Kismet when Kismet suspects him - his argument that Kismet is scumreading him because he wasn't townreading Kismet here is strange (I could maaaybe understand if Mena was scumreading Kismet before this point, but he wasn't), and I think that his read not being affected at all by the bork reveal is unnatural. His reads overall aren't very well fleshed out despite him seeming to have a decent amount of time to flesh them out.

Particularly the part about the scum wouldnt bus thing. I could easily see Mena trying to deepwolf with the early javelin throw.

[Kismet]

I was looking at nacho's wall and he had some interesting points WRT mena

i mean my early game stance on mena is what it is too, and it's possible he just adjusted to throw me off,

but at this point i feel like vft and that slot are more likely aligned than not considering their interaction is starting to approach mutual trust, and every time skitter posts i just get warmfuzzy this game not just in how she's posting but i think her content is legitimately good.

if bulge is scum and nm is town then maybe; again i don't know why DC does this weird shit about bulge vs nm if he is scum w/ nm in any capacity (i guess unless he's looking for me to make observations like this but that was very in the moment of him then)

[Kismet]

It was a joke since I was not in the list, yes.

that was the list of people i'm mostly townreading, to be clear, and you're kinda floating just barely outside it

[notscience]

How do you think scum approached nacho? When I was talking through my early read on Cakez I was kinda thinking he could be town again. But I think its crazy to think the first five votes were all town.

[Kismet]

i think the biggest weakness of my towngame is that i have basically no capacity to figure out who is townreading me for bad reasons

p-edit:

But I think its crazy to think the first five votes were all town.

i get it, but it's been known to happen and trying to solve that puzzle is not something i can make any headway on without like an assload of fips

[notscience]

I think the weirdest thing about Mara's nacho stance was she was trying to argue against his wagon without ever calling him town

Like it was almost taboo to say. Theres constant talk about how notmaf was being ignored, and nachos wagon was too sticky (which is fair)

I also dont understand how she misconstrued what I was trying to say then restated it in her own words a few posts later but thats not really AI thats just like... huh...

[Kismet]

How do you think scum approached nacho?

very good Q.

my first inclination would be in the manner that cakez (accepting a sheep), salsa (being like maaaaaan i dunno i guess let's see) or bulge (i'm not paying attention sure nacho sounds great) did

infinity in particular i think maintained "i've got my gut read on nacho and i'm not terribly interested in what any of you are fueling that fire with" which seemed town to me at the time.

[Kismet]

Mara's nacho stance was she was trying to argue against his wagon without ever calling him town

i think she implied she thought he was town with calling the attach on nacho a chainsaw, imo.

[Kismet]

like bulge goes and says he's obviously not paired w/ anyone this game

that's actually more how i feel about mara. she's not here to make any friends.

[notscience]

it was all implication, we literally had that same issue from when she first replaced in, its really weird she was so vague around the main wagon of the day without really ever doing a town case?

I'm trying to decide if I think scum was all trying to push against it to ride the towncred.

ninja-
I mean yeah, I just think for someone so adamant nacho was town she did fuckall to stop the wagon (granted she is going to blame me and I do agree I am at least part to blame) but like even peta did more lol

I kinda wanna kill bulge tbh the more i think about stuff

[Kismet]

i kinda feel like i'm the only one really sticking my neck out for mara though, which, shrug, it's possible i'm not seeing something everyone else is

[fferyllt]

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